The MSU math instructor email that has gone viral nationally

[615dawg]

with people calling for her firing. Mississippi State resumed normal operations today. It should be an unexcused absence.

After reading the MSU email, it seems that it's a gray area with her compliance to the university policy. But she's being lit up on social media about it.

 

[MaroonSadness99]

Link?

 

[615dawg]

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

 

[MaroonSadness99]

The email does not seem that bad to me. I definitely do not think it warrants her being fired.

 

[DT4248]

Yea while not necessarily wrong, she's a dickhead lacking tact. No sense in mentioning North MS things or acting like your math class is the most important thing in everyone's world.

Different email where just the first paragraph exists and no one cares. What point did it serve even commenting on it.

Edit: Based on DCD's screengrab. That instructor is wrong and gonna get themselves in hot water with upper admin for that one.

 

[MaroonSadness99]

Yea while not necessarily wrong, she's a dickhead lacking tact. No sense in mentioning North MS things or acting like your math class is the most important thing in everyone's world.

Different email where just the first paragraph exists and no one cares. What point did it serve even commenting on it.

I agree that she seems like a dickhead. Most professors are. Hopefully she learns from it. But i hope they do not fire her for it.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Calling for her to be fired is over the top dumb much like her being a hardasş about class for a couple of days. A two day grace period like the university put out would suffice and then unexcused absences start after that. Don’t make it harder than it has to be.

 

[golferdog]

Her email is a bit harsh, but not fireable. A simple email saying you would miss class would be sufficient.

 

[dawgman42]

A Chem-E grad that went back for a Math masters now teaching intro math . . . and all degrees ONLY from State? She has a lot of other issues (none that appear fire-able).

 

[onewoof]

I didn't realize the forecast called for snowflakes

 

[dawgman42]

Waiting on an Epsteinal-associated opinion here.....

 

[ZombieKissinger]

That’s one way to increase the volume of people brokenhearted and crushed in spirit

 

[lazlow]

Jesus christ. Everyone knows in-person is hypenated when used as an adjective.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Sounds like a math teacher to me.

 

[HotMop]

 

[Howiefeltersnstch]

Jose Cuervo. Everyone knows hypenated has another H in it

 

[Villagedawg]

She retracted in another email later message. Probably didn’t take long before she got an email from Lee Hall.

 

[onewoof]

Jesus christ. Everyone knows in-person is hypenated when used as an adjective.

1. Capital C Christ
2. hyphenated

 

[TTKADawg]

Literally the same this the State of MS sent my Sunday night. Offices are closed, then 15 minutes later, “Per the Governor, State is to report” … got my happy *** up and went!

 

[GloryDawg]

Is she not a professor? It just says instructor of math. I wonder if she is hot.

 

[40mikemike]

Is she not a professor? It just says instructor of math. I wonder if she is hot.

She is not. @ClintonInHelen would though…

She shouldn’t be fired over it, but it was absolutely a dick move on her part and if I was a parent and my kid had come home to ride out the storm and couldn’t get back to class because of road conditions, she would have heard from me about it if she played that game. It was a stupid email to send and just shows that she thinks she’s special. Hopefully she learned from it, but I doubt it.

 

[DawgNsuds]

I'm old, but in my day this would have been a non-issue and the University would have aligned with the instructor. Not saying her message was just, but it was a different time. Reminds me of a story Judge Ishee (Business Law Instructor and local Judge) used to tell and I will paraphrase it.

Story goes that there was a law student at Ole Miss who's prominent family owned prime quail hunting property and bird dogs to go with it. Professor asked the student if they could go hunting the next day, where the student reminded the professor that they had an exam in his class that day. Professor assured the student that if they were to hunt, that since it was his exam that he would take care of the student. They do go hunting the next day, when the student get his grades, he has a zero for that exam. approaches the professor and reminds him of their agreement, professor states that he just learned a valuable lesson, don't trust anyone. Have no idea if the story is true, but I still remember it after all of these years.

 

[DawgatAuburn]

I'm old, but in my day this would have been a non-issue and the University would have aligned with the instructor.

No they wouldn’t have. There have always been instructors like this, and there have always been adults there to overrule them.

 

[Dawg Raid]

She’s right though

 

[QuaoarsKing]

It's a little presumptuous of her to assume that people who are blocked by weather made an irresponsible choice. She doesn't automatically know everyone's situation.

 

[dawgman42]

She’s right though

Yeah, but see, she's not.

 

[ckDOG]

University rules win.

Did a lot of students leave town for the weekend and get stuck?

 

[horshack.sixpack]

It's a little presumptuous of her to assume that people who are blocked by weather made an irresponsible choice. She doesn't automatically know everyone's situation.

Assuming they’d get an email is pretty optimistic for some of these areas.

 

[Kosko]

In my day attendance was up to student. Grade could not be based solely on attendance. Was once in class where professor tried to implement policy based on attendance, and students went to Dean & prof had to change grades.
Her statement was ridiculous.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Looks like a great email to me. Wait until you graduate and tell you boss you won’t be in on Monday because you traveled over the weekend. You won’t get fired for that alone, just as this teacher didn’t say it would necessarily have any negative impact on your grades. People are whiners.

 

[HotMop]

Looks like a great email to me. Wait until you graduate and tell you boss you won’t be in on Monday because you traveled over the weekend. You won’t get fired for that alone, just as this teacher didn’t say it would necessarily have any negative impact on your grades. People are whiners.

I don't know, when Hurricane Michael hit in 2018 my boss said to take care of my family and let him know when I could come in to assist the rebuild. I took off 10 days until power was back on at my blown up house and went back to help rebuild the 400k sq ft building. I stayed in MS at my Dad's until then.

 

[mstateglfr]

She is not. @ClintonInHelen would though…

She shouldn’t be fired over it, but it was absolutely a dick move on her part and if I was a parent and my kid had come home to ride out the storm and couldn’t get back to class because of road conditions, she would have heard from me about it if she played that game. It was a stupid email to send and just shows that she thinks she’s special. Hopefully she learned from it, but I doubt it.

I can't imagine emailing or calling any of my kid's college professors.
She is an adult and the student- why would they give a 17 what I thought? Why would they even talk to me?
...they can't even talk to parents about anything specific unless it's noted that permission by the student is given.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

You should definitely never email a child's professor as a parent.

If there's a really bad problem, you and the student can together go to a dean or something, but a parent emailing a professor is never going to help.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

I don't know, when Hurricane Michael hit in 2018 my boss said to take care of my family and let him know when I could come in to assist the rebuild. I took off 10 days until power was back on at my blown up house and went back to help rebuild the 400k sq ft building. I stayed in MS at my Dad's until then.

Yup, those are the exact same situation. **

 

[aspendawg]

Her Bible quote at the bottom is the chefs kiss

 

[msu4ever]

I'm old, but in my day this would have been a non-issue and the University would have aligned with the instructor. Not saying her message was just, but it was a different time. Reminds me of a story Judge Ishee (Business Law Instructor and local Judge) used to tell and I will paraphrase it.

Story goes that there was a law student at Ole Miss who's prominent family owned prime quail hunting property and bird dogs to go with it. Professor asked the student if they could go hunting the next day, where the student reminded the professor that they had an exam in his class that day. Professor assured the student that if they were to hunt, that since it was his exam that he would take care of the student. They do go hunting the next day, when the student get his grades, he has a zero for that exam. approaches the professor and reminds him of their agreement, professor states that he just learned a valuable lesson, don't trust anyone. Have no idea if the story is true, but I still remember it after all of these years.

I had Judge Ishee for Business Law back in the day and wasn't doing all that great in the class. I learned he loved quail hunting, so I told him he could hunt on our farm. He had a good hunt and I miraculously got an A in class participation. I rarely participated....was very grateful for a pretty good final grade......

 

[HailStout]

Her Bible quote at the bottom is the chefs kiss

I know that if I get an email with a Bible verse at the end that there is an excellent chance that I am going to be very pissed off by the time I make it to said verse

 

[PrimeDog]

The kid should be shamed more than the professor. First for running TO Memphis when Starkville-Oktibbeha Co were barely in the warning area, and secondly for having his mommy email the professor and get up in his business.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

I had a professor at state that said he didn't care if we were in the hospital we better turn something on on time if it was due. We were met getting an excuse because in the real world we wouldn't get extensions on deadlines. He told a story about being a motorcycle accident and still being asked to submit assignments.
That being said, there are so many exceptions even in the real world. Only the sith deal in absolutes.
She's a dick for that and if someone was in an accident traveling to get back for her class that would be a shame. A math class missed is not the end of the world and not worth busting it.

I have had folks get stranded traveling before and they were not given their pto back. They were allowed to take additional but nothing was alloted to recoup.

All that being said. Don't make it hard, copy the dang university release and be done with it.