The Mullen situation is a lot like Polk's tenure...

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At one time Ron Polk was the leading coach of the best baseball team in the SEC. Because of his success other SEC schools saw what could happen to their baseball programs... and while everyone else in the conference got stronger, the former leading program fell further and further behind.

We can talk all the time about giving Mullen the chance to get better, but that is what MSU did with Polk... and it took one of his former players to finally see the National Championship series. MSU waited too long to pull the plug on Polk and although the team made the championship series the home facility is no longer top quality.

The ultimate truth is in the SEC there is no leeway when it comes to building a program. You either have to get it done soon or move on. No other school in this conference is going to wait on MSU to decide how to "build a program" while they are bulldozing the rest of the college football world. Unless you want to accept the place where Vanderbilt and Kentucky once was, there has to be a very short leash now.

If those who are worried about how other coaches may view the "pulling of the plug" after a short period, then Hudspeth would be the best choice. If MSU is such a small attraction for a "big name," then let's get a successful coach who has done great in a lower division and let him try his hand to set up a long-term program. Hudspeth fills this spot because of his success at the lower level. Of course, heading an SEC program would be attractive in its own right.

I went through five years of Emory Bellard and was very excited when State toppled Alabama in 1980. Since then there has been many other exciting wins, but none during Mullen's tenure. Sorry, but the way Mullen has operated is no longer acceptable in the hyper-competitive SEC -- you must be competitive and occassionally win the big one to be part of it -- or be left further in the dust.
 
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Truth in what you say, except Polk had the best support of any program in the SEC. At one point, he had the best stadium, highest attendance, and probably the best recruits and still didn't get it done (national championship). Mullen has never gotten the best recruits, but I do believe he has enough facilities. What I don't think Mullen has that Cohen does is good assistants. Our current pitching coach is one of the primary reasons we have come so far in baseball. Mullen does not have a go to assistant. I do think MSU has to raise the assistant salaries a lot. But, I'm not in favor of paying bad assistants more money.
 

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It's possible that if Mullen's staff salaries were upped and he got better staff, then they would immediately leave for other jobs as soon as they were offered. For whatever reason, Starkville simply isn't a "destination" for some coaches. So that's another reason the blame, such as it is, maybe doesn't lie with Dan. If the truth hurts, so be it. So increasing salaries won't necessarily result in maintaining a better staff.
 
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Higher pay may get the good assistants here in the first place though...

Seems like our OC seems to be perfectly happy with his underpaid salary, because no one else is offering him, nor will they. Same with Hevessy.
 

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Seems like our OC seems to be perfectly happy with his underpaid salary, because no one else is offering him, nor will they. Same with Hevessy.

Since Mullen is essentially your OC, shouldn't the OC make less? That lets you pay more on the defensive side and for recruiters etc. Your OC makes more than ours.
 
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It really doesn't matter to me. A head coach that was making $1.5 and split the other $1.1 savings from Mullen's contract on other coaches that could recruit would be great with me. Beats what we've got now.
 

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So what you're saying is, that Mullen's situation is NOTHING like Polk's.

At one time Ron Polk was the leading coach of the best baseball team in the SEC. Because of his success other SEC schools saw what could happen to their baseball programs... and while everyone else in the conference got stronger, the former leading program fell further and further behind.

We can talk all the time about giving Mullen the chance to get better, but that is what MSU did with Polk... and it took one of his former players to finally see the National Championship series. MSU waited too long to pull the plug on Polk and although the team made the championship series the home facility is no longer top quality.

The ultimate truth is in the SEC there is no leeway when it comes to building a program. You either have to get it done soon or move on. No other school in this conference is going to wait on MSU to decide how to "build a program" while they are bulldozing the rest of the college football world. Unless you want to accept the place where Vanderbilt and Kentucky once was, there has to be a very short leash now.

If those who are worried about how other coaches may view the "pulling of the plug" after a short period, then Hudspeth would be the best choice. If MSU is such a small attraction for a "big name," then let's get a successful coach who has done great in a lower division and let him try his hand to set up a long-term program. Hudspeth fills this spot because of his success at the lower level. Of course, heading an SEC program would be attractive in its own right.

I went through five years of Emory Bellard and was very excited when State toppled Alabama in 1980. Since then there has been many other exciting wins, but none during Mullen's tenure. Sorry, but the way Mullen has operated is no longer acceptable in the hyper-competitive SEC -- you must be competitive and occassionally win the big one to be part of it -- or be left further in the dust.

Bolded the only part that matters. We had to get rid of Polk because we are a traditional power in SEC baseball who had fallen to the very bottom of the pack.

Mullen has our program somewhere between the bottom half and the bottom third - which is actually better than we have traditionally been. Not every team can continue to progress, because you can't have 14 teams in the top half of the SEC - and some teams will always be there.

I fully believe we are capable of flashes of great success. If you believe that type of success can be sustained, you are a fool.