The NazCat offense could be almost impossible for defenses to stop. what do you think?

Sportsmom901

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When thinking about the athletes Naz has on offense the NazCat could be a powerful weapon within the Naz offensive armory. We have seen how a limited version of it discombobulated one of the states best defensive teams (JCA) IMO, but what if they explored more from this scheme........ defensive coordinators would go crazy having to prepare for the Nazcat, & Naz's normal multiple front offense. What do you all think?
 

Snetsrak61

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St Laurence would be smart to prepare for it.

However, Naz can't run a significant portion of their offense directly through their best defensive player against another strong offensive team. They pulled it out at a perfect time and in the right amount against JCA, but I fully expect they'll plan for Bartels to lead the offense.
 

jwarigaku

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Snetsrak61,

What you fail to realize and what Sportsmom is pointing out is that there are at least 4 other athletes that can run the Lovecat and some can pass the ball too. Would never take anything away from Barttels, he is the team Captain & Leader and the offense will alway start with him. Let's just say there is a lot more to this offense that no one has even begun to see yet.

St Laurence would be smart to prepare for it.

However, Naz can't run a significant portion of their offense directly through their best defensive player against another strong offensive team. They pulled it out at a perfect time and in the right amount against JCA, but I fully expect they'll plan for Bartels to lead the offense.
 

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Jca has a good defensenot great. great front four but the back half of the defense can be exposed. As far as if a team could stop their offense the simple answer is yes. The team loyola.
 

Sportsmom901

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Snetsrak61,

What you fail to realize and what Sportsmom is pointing out is that there are at least 4 other athletes that can run the Lovecat and some can pass the ball too. Would never take anything away from Barttels, he is the team Captain & Leader and the offense will alway start with him. Let's just say there is a lot more to this offense that no one has even begun to see yet.
Well put, Jwarigaku, you are a wise man........... it's no mystery to anyone who knows me that I have never liked the Naz offense and never will if it stays as is, but that's a different story, and i'm not going there...... but then they showed us the LoveCat and i thought wow great scheme..... but.... what.. if... it became, "The NaaaaaazCat", that would be a game changer........ would it not?
 

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You've never liked an offense that averages 42 points a game? What point total would you prefer they get to before their offense pleases you?
 

Corey90

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You've never liked an offense that averages 42 points a game? What point total would you prefer they get to before their offense pleases you?

Show me a good offense and I show you a better defense. Not saying JC has that kind of defense but let's not go nuts. Defense wins championships.
My opinion!
 

Sportsmom901

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Jca has a good defensenot great. great front four but the back half of the defense can be exposed. As far as if a team could stop their offense the simple answer is yes. The team loyola.
Maybe and Maybe not, but what you missed is Naz has already been given a offensive scheme to get past the Loyola defense, designed by the IHSA is called 5A and 8A, but lets talk about that and maybe 4-6 years....... meanwhile back to the "NaaaaaazCat"
 
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When thinking about the athletes Naz has on offense the NazCat could be a powerful weapon within the Naz offensive armory. We have seen how a limited version of it discombobulated one of the states best defensive teams (JCA) IMO, but what if they explored more from this scheme........ defensive coordinators would go crazy having to prepare for the Nazcat, & Naz's normal multiple front offense. What do you all think?

Sportsmom,

I did not see Naz run the wildcat but I have seen St Laurence and they don't have the defense to stop Naz offnese.
 

Sportsmom901

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You've never liked an offense that averages 42 points a game? What point total would you prefer they get to before their offense pleases you?
yeah we did score some points, but like i said i'm not going there......... not going to discuss our offense during a state championship run, but I would be glad to do so, after the season....... don't want nobody peeking?.....
 
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PowerI66_

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yeah we did score some points, but like i said i'm not going there......... not going to discuss our offense during a state championship run, but I would be glad to do so, after the season....... don't want nobody peeking?.....
What are you asking me with "don't want nobody peeking?". If you are inferring that I'm trying to get info on Naz, I can assure you that I have never been associated with any team besides those in 7A and 8A
 

Sportsmom901

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What are you asking me with "don't want nobody peeking?". If you are inferring that I'm trying to get info on Naz, I can assure you that I have never been associated with any team besides those in 7A and 8A
No sir, I never said that you are some kind of high school football offensive scheme killing spy or something like that, but our post are open to all readers not just you and I..........remember?.........if i am wrong or right, its just not the time or place for me to brake down what i think are the problems with my teams offensive scheme, that's why i said not going there........... could you respect that for me sir? maybe revisit at season end.
 

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When thinking about the athletes Naz has on offense the NazCat could be a powerful weapon within the Naz offensive armory. We have seen how a limited version of it discombobulated one of the states best defensive teams (JCA) IMO, but what if they explored more from this scheme........ defensive coordinators would go crazy having to prepare for the Nazcat, & Naz's normal multiple front offense. What do you all think?

I'm sorry but this thread is a joke... You honestly are going to question the Nazareth coaching staff and their offensive acumen? {Que Keshawn Johnson sound bite} C'Mon Man! I don't know how long your kid has been there but if he has taken part in the program the last 2 years you are absolutely out of your mind to consider questioning them. Last year Naz amassed one of the highest point totals in our state's history while playing only about half the game in 12 of 14 contests (I think). Now this team is putting up great offensive numbers too, despite losing all 5 lineman, their 2,000 yard RB, their starting QB, and a few starting WR's, I'd say that's pretty damn amazing. Nazareth won state last year and they are two games away from doing it again this year and we have a Nazareth mother complaining, I've honestly seen it all... Take a step back away from the keyboard, there is literally nothing good that can come from your posts.
 

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Snetsrak61,

What you fail to realize and what Sportsmom is pointing out is that there are at least 4 other athletes that can run the Lovecat and some can pass the ball too. Would never take anything away from Barttels, he is the team Captain & Leader and the offense will alway start with him. Let's just say there is a lot more to this offense that no one has even begun to see yet.

I do not know the Nazareth coaches but I would venture to guess that they do not want you on this forum spewing posts like this. Maybe Nazareth wants these wrinkles to come as a surprise to their future opponent or two. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is the first time Naz has showed this Wildcat formation. Do you think they just discovered it this week? They've been sitting on this for the right moment, which they clearly found this weekend. Now maybe they'd like to sit on the "other 4 kids and their ability to pass"? Maybe they'd like the other team to think there are no other wrinkles? Hard to pull that off with people like you who try to one up every single person on an edgytim board while giving out information better kept private. Why do you Naz people not think before you post?
 

jwarigaku

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TPF,

Honestly I could be spewing misinformation for all you know. You claim to know a lot as well...if that's the case you know me...I'm still trying to figure out who the hell you are. I will certainly say that I do appreciate your support of Nazareth in all facets, not just football! I hope someday we meet face to face so you can realize I have nothing but good intentions for the program and work tirelessly to that end. Have a great Sunday and I hope we meet soon!

I do not know the Nazareth coaches but I would venture to guess that they do not want you on this forum spewing posts like this. Maybe Nazareth wants these wrinkles to come as a surprise to their future opponent or two. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is the first time Naz has showed this Wildcat formation. Do you think they just discovered it this week? They've been sitting on this for the right moment, which they clearly found this weekend. Now maybe they'd like to sit on the "other 4 kids and their ability to pass"? Maybe they'd like the other team to think there are no other wrinkles? Hard to pull that off with people like you who try to one up every single person on an edgytim board while giving out information better kept private. Why do you Naz people not think before you post?
 

Sportsmom901

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I'm sorry but this thread is a joke... You honestly are going to question the Nazareth coaching staff and their offensive acumen? {Que Keshawn Johnson sound bite} C'Mon Man! I don't know how long your kid has been there but if he has taken part in the program the last 2 years you are absolutely out of your mind to consider questioning them. Last year Naz amassed one of the highest point totals in our state's history while playing only about half the game in 12 of 14 contests (I think). Now this team is putting up great offensive numbers too, despite losing all 5 lineman, their 2,000 yard RB, their starting QB, and a few starting WR's, I'd say that's pretty damn amazing. Nazareth won state last year and they are two games away from doing it again this year and we have a Nazareth mother complaining, I've honestly seen it all... Take a step back away from the keyboard, there is literally nothing good that can come from your posts.
Sir, you seem to have a hard time reading or understanding that what I feel about the Naz offense is my personal views, and if I cared what you thought I would have explained my views to you before you went blah, blah, blah all over our thread talking about something you have no understanding, "my point of view", for how could you when I have been clear that I do not wish to discuss them. So your attempt to handle me or hush me by presenting the stats of my own team only proves you have no idea what you are talking about, do you really think I can't read stats sheets, do you think I have not cheered for each one of them touchdowns this year and last year, do you think I have not watched the hudl scout film with the coaches highlights and notes, do you really think you have far more knowledge to how I form my opinions than I do? Please just hush! cause you are coming off as a joke who posts before you have any understanding on what you are posting about. Did you ask yourself why I don't like Naz offense or even try to understand why?, or just assumed because you do, I was obligated to do so as well, maybe you just like to rant on unrelated topic from thread to thread.... tell you what, I'll give you this to rant about, I also don't like ketchup on my french fries, see now you can run to another thread and rant about how good ketchup covered french fries are to you, and how good they feel in your belly, or how you do a little dance when you are chewing them, you may even explain the perfect ketchup to fry ratio, you know how I like stats. Just please leave this thread to the people who WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY LIKE THE NAZCAT! So if you have nothing to add to that please take your unneeded rants to some other teams threads, cause the topic you are trying to rant about has nothing to do with this thread nor do you bring any info that we here are not far more knowledgeable about than you are. Now run along...
 

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Naz has enough weapons in the skills to run whatever they want and be successful. End of story. They change their gameplan based on their opponent. Ive seen them win a.game with 5 passes and 40 passes and 50 rushes down to 10. Good coaches change their gameplans and wrinkles based on their weeks opponent. I'm not sure what offense u want them to run. At this point I've seen n them run about everything except veer.
 

Sportsmom901

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I do not know the Nazareth coaches but I would venture to guess that they do not want you on this forum spewing posts like this. Maybe Nazareth wants these wrinkles to come as a surprise to their future opponent or two. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think this is the first time Naz has showed this Wildcat formation. Do you think they just discovered it this week? They've been sitting on this for the right moment, which they clearly found this weekend. Now maybe they'd like to sit on the "other 4 kids and their ability to pass"? Maybe they'd like the other team to think there are no other wrinkles? Hard to pull that off with people like you who try to one up every single person on an edgytim board while giving out information better kept private. Why do you Naz people not think before you post?
I'll be short but I am going to help you out one more time, cause you seem to have missed the JCA game, the first thing you need to know is "the cat is out the bag", and Naz has been spotted running the wildcat, so no state secret leak Mr.NSA. Also you might have missed the last 3 years of post on the edgy message boards but everyone has already discovered that Naz has a plethora of offensive weapons, some posts have even named them, so watch out so they won't get you. I heard they eat children...sir, please go play post police somewhere else...... nothing to see here, move along, nothing to see here....
 

JFelice

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Sir, you seem to have a hard time reading or understanding that what I feel about the Naz offense is my personal views, and if I cared what you thought I would have explained my views to you before you went blah, blah, blah all over our thread talking about something you have no understanding, "my point of view", for how could you when I have been clear that I do not wish to discuss them. So your attempt to handle me or hush me by presenting the stats of my own team only proves you have no idea what you are talking about, do you really think I can't read stats sheets, do you think I have not cheered for each one of them touchdowns this year and last year, do you think I have not watched the hudl scout film with the coaches highlights and notes, do you really think you have far more knowledge to how I form my opinions than I do? Please just hush! cause you are coming off as a joke who posts before you have any understanding on what you are posting about. Did you ask yourself why I don't like Naz offense or even try to understand why?, or just assumed because you do, I was obligated to do so as well, maybe you just like to rant on unrelated topic from thread to thread.... tell you what, I'll give you this to rant about, I also don't like ketchup on my french fries, see now you can run to another thread and rant about how good ketchup covered french fries are to you, and how good they feel in your belly, or how you do a little dance when you are chewing them, you may even explain the perfect ketchup to fry ratio, you know how I like stats. Just please leave this thread to the people who WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH THEY LIKE THE NAZCAT! So if you have nothing to add to that please take your unneeded rants to some other teams threads, cause the topic you are trying to rant about has nothing to do with this thread nor do you bring any info that we here are not far more knowledgeable about than you are. Now run along...
Wow just wow...
 

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Wow, if questions arise about why might people be " anti Naz", this thread will be a good place to start
 
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Maybe Phillips can match Nazareth football team speed ,that would be it.
 

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The reaction of some of the Naz fans to the Naz victory over JCA has been different to say the least.
A Naz coach calling out the JCA coaching staff stating that their schemes are extinct,
some of the Naz fans stating that the wildcat as run by Naz is unstoppable,
Whatever happened to humility in victory?
 
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Sportsmom901

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Naz has enough weapons in the skills to run whatever they want and be successful. End of story. They change their gameplan based on their opponent. Ive seen them win a.game with 5 passes and 40 passes and 50 rushes down to 10. Good coaches change their gameplans and wrinkles based on their weeks opponent. I'm not sure what offense u want them to run. At this point I've seen n them run about everything except veer.
I agree, never said I didn't............. I just don't like when people try to take a small part of something you post and twist it into to something else, this thread was started to talk about what we think of the new edition to the Naz offense (The NazCat) and what the future may hold for it..... so what does that has to do with what I do or don't like about what they have done in the past, that was never a topic for discussion I said that repeatedly..... as far as what offense I want them to to run, what does it matter.... neither me nor my son has ever went to a coach and ask them to change what they do or give him more plays or time, we need no special treatment. Never happen and never will, he simply plays football and I cheer for him and all his teammates, yet but because I'm not a fan of the past offense some people feel I need to explain myself or be scolded ....are they crazy. furthermore to act as if i'm attacking the coaching staff who I have lots of respect for is simply crazy.....why in the hell would I trust my child with coaches I feel are incompetent? Remember Naz is a non boundaries school that cost a lot of time and money so if I did not have faith in what they are doing my child would not be there....... so when someone tries to school me on a school and coaching staff that my child and I have actually made a commitment to I get angry; angry like a alligator with too many teeth and a small medulla oblongata. Especially when their loyalties are to another school where there is a thread calling for their own coaches job because he lost a hard fought game during a magnificent season for their student-athletes. Oh...Yes sir, the gloves come off and the dog starts barking........ this board is made for us to discuss each other thoughts not twist each other words for personal attacks....... The thread I started was about how much I like the addition of the wildcat to our offense.... For those who are struggling to read or understand that or feel like I owe them something they are so very wrong, and I don't care who they like or not like cause Naz parents will always be there supporting and cheering for our boys.
 

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It disappeared during the Montini era. But seriously JCA fans called their staff out yesterday. And not sure anyone from Naz called it unstoppable...it was a very good wrinkle that JCA didn't expect.

The reaction of some of the Naz fans to the Naz victory over JCA has been different to say the least.
A Naz coach calling out the JCA coaching staff stating that their schemes are extinct,
some of the Naz fans stating that the wildcat as run by Naz is unstoppable,
Whatever happened to humility in victory?
 

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Schematically they are extinct which has traditionally cost them in big spots and will continue to if they remain as is. They got beat soundly. Turnovers are a result of pressure and mental errors.
When thinking about the athletes Naz has on offense the NazCat could be a powerful weapon within the Naz offensive armory. We have seen how a limited version of it discombobulated one of the states best defensive teams (JCA) IMO, but what if they explored more from this scheme........ defensive coordinators would go crazy having to prepare for the Nazcat, & Naz's normal multiple front offense. What do you all think?

Close to unstoppable. And when did the Montini era end, I must of missed that?
 

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Maybe Phillips can match Nazareth football team speed ,that would be it.

Strictly team speed?
I'll start with:

HF
Phillips
ESL
Edwardsville
Althoff
Crete
Thornton
Montini

What do you have is arguably the best player in the state.
 
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RRH1

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I've got a dozen really fast players on this team many playing both ways and special teams.
 

jwarigaku

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Bronco,

Never said it was over! I've defended Montini on a variety of topics as recent as this afternoon, so get off your Pony!

Again no one called it unstoppable.

And finally there is nothing untrue about the scheme statement and was stated by their own fans in a separate thread long before DDifusco said it. We respect JCA, it's players, coaches, and its rich tradition; but stating facts are simply that, Facts.

JWAR



Close to unstoppable. And when did the Montini era end, I must of missed that?
 

godfthr53

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Jca should have been ready for the Lovecat. Montini used the Joecat very timely against them for 4 years. I wonder if that is where Naz got the thought from.
 
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unstoppable? Ridiculous

Unstoppable the rest of the way in 5A.. maybe not that off far. Julian Love is in a league of special players. Reminding me when Laquon Treadwell was basically unstoppable carrying Crete mone all the way.

Very surprised Love is only a 3 star. I wonder what flaws they see in his game, whoever is in charge of the ratings.
 

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JWAR



Close to unstoppable. And when did the Montini era end, I must of missed that?
love to twist word.
Jca should have been ready for the Lovecat. Montini used the Joecat very timely against them for 4 years. I wonder if that is where Naz got the thought from.
The wildcat is not new, but I think keeping it in our offense give DC's a lot to have to think about and prepare for within a weeks time, not saying we drop everything and go all wildcat, but break it out here and there with a few more options from it...