Because I've said anything worse than anyone has said to me?
Could you provide evidence of him bragging?
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You quoted a tongue and cheek comment that was mocking how the left reacted to the 2016 election. And you did it by repeating regurgitated lies clearly not from your own thoughts. Not really something you'd expect from a self proclaimed free thicker such as yourself. But that's cool.
To me, on multiple occasions. Not that it's relevant to the point. The point is that people only want civility when they get their way. You shouldn't expect more out of others than you are willing to give yourself.
This is a joke, right? Would you rather use the word, gloat? That'd be splitting hairs, but maybe a compromise? What would you call that, if not bragging?
Just look at his comments straight from his mouth.All you have to do is Google his Son of a ***** the prosecutor was fired
I was responding to Topps comment, although I realize it looked like I was responding to you. Sorry about that. As for what I said, I did not repeat lies without thinking. Once again, I actually read the Mueller report as well as the statements he and the team gave to the press. Impeachment was intended by the Founding Fathers to be difficult so it is no surprise that Trump was not removed from office. However, given the evidence of his behavior and that of his inner circle, he did commit crimes and the willingness of his campaign to accept information and assistance from the Russians was not only disgraceful is was downright unAmerican. These are my own thoughts, btw.
A number of countries wanted that prosecutor fired. He was corrupt as hell.
Trump did many good things. His best thing though was exposing how corrupt the media is, and his “fake news” line may be the best ever. They are despicable people, and I’m glad he shed some light on them. The shame is they are believed by so many.
It is sad but true that they can all be aligned together. Because of that, lies are believed, further dividing our country.
Take a bow media.
It is sad but true that they can all be aligned together. Because of that, lies are believed, further dividing our country.
Take a bow media.
You do realize that his impeachment had nothing to do with Russia and the Mueller report, right? And you are misrepresenting what it actually says. Do you think using your office as VP to get your family members lucrative jobs in countries that you are in charge of diplomatic relationships with is un-American?
Much like his 5th Avenue comment, his explanation behind the origin of his constant media attacks (so that none of his supporters would believe the media when they give him negative coverage) says a lot about the way he views his followers.
You are correct. I forgot about the Ukraine. So many scandals and so many crimes. As for nepotism, Trump certainly thinks nepotism is not un-American. Can you say Don Jr., Eric and Ivanka?
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You’re trying to use reason. Our country is past reason and fairness. We are fu%#+*. People are too gridlocked into party loyalty. The media is the biggest blame.
People need to open their eyes. This is simple for a fair minded person. Trump didn’t get into politics until 2015, and was laughed at until he beat Crooked Hilary. Then, he became Satan. Again, any fair minded person knows why. Which is he was an outsider that was messing up their corrupt politics.
Trump tried. But, the Establishment is too big. Media, Big Tech, Hollywood, and these athletes have ruined us.
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I think civility would be great either way. I didn't suddenly decide that because Biden won. I'm just with @durhamgolfer in that the conversation isn't going anywhere and maybe, just maybe we might start getting somewhere if we put down the pitchforks. Again, I'm not calling out anyone side either because I'm not exactly guilt free.
As far as Biden bragging, I got confused because Topps said "extortion" instead "leveraged aid to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor".
Trump actually ran for President in 2000. And even without running, he was constantly weighing in to disparage other presidents. Obama was very much in his crosshairs. Birther anyone? Plus there are a list of tweets with him criticizing everything Obama did. Trump's field of real estate constantly put him in contact with politicians, so the idea that he was not involved in politics at all until 2015 is well a tad bit incorrect. FYI, in NY the only people more corrupt than politicians are builders.
For once. Can a liberal answer a question without flipping it back to Trump. You already accused Trump of being a criminal and un-American. It is clear that is your opinion. So I don't need you to go further into that opinion. I asked you what your opinion is when it comes to a sitting VP using his office to get his family members lucrative jobs in countries that he is in charge of diplomatic relationships with? For ***** and giggles, we can make it a hypothetical question. Would you consider that un-American?
Until our media changes, which is highly unlikely, the mindset of liberals won't either.
The fear and hatred for Trump is so high, that a virus was created and unleashed on the world.
The fear and hatred for Trump is so high, that a virus was created and unleashed on the world.
Again, you have been two of the biggest roadblocks to civility. Not the only ones by any means. But you guys both refuse to accept that some people don't vote for the person or his/her character. Though those are important qualities, they're not the only or most important qualities for a lot of people when they consider who to vote for. No matter how many times that has been explained to you guys, you still take the aggressive and demeaning route when conversing with people who have different voting habits than you. To you, anyone who votes for Trump is a bad person or a cultists, or any other wild insults you guys have blindly thrown at people who don't think like you. If civility is what you want, it is on you to set the example. And you guys are not in any position to ask for or demand civility.
You guys have toned it down as of late, and we can all let bygones be bygones. But please, quit asking everyone to be civil, instead let's just be civil on our own.
They won’t answer because only Orange Man bad is their only thoughts and only want to be civil if they are on winning side.They would want cities to burn if Trump had won
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And we are supposed to believe this election was legit. If you believe that, I have some ocean front property in Kansas I’ll sell you.
Read with an open mind if you can. The author is obviously on the right side, a kiwi though which is strange...but some of the data just does not make sense as its portrayed here and warrants at least a look to verify. Its data and time stamped so that part should be easy....if the motivation is there. Can it all be just made up? Doubtful as mentioned before...its verifiable.
Take it for what it's worth, but Dick Morris showed some interesting voting numbers last night in cities being questioned.
Phoenix - Biden got 48% more votes than Obama in 12, with Phoenix having a 14% gain in population
Atlanta - Biden 30% more than Obama in 12, with a 9% gain in population
Detroit - Biden 10% more than Obama in 12, with no gain in population
New York & Chicago - did not get these kind of numbers
In Pennsylvania, 200,000 absentee ballots were counted
Literally the only places that Biden outperformed Obama or Clinton in were in Metro areas of swing states. Everywhere else, Hillary got more votes than Biden. This is what I am talking about when I say I would respect the left a lot more if they'd just acknowledge that it was a rigged election. No one is stupid enough to look at the numbers and say that there's nothing to see here.
This is literally not true. Biden out performed Hillary, without going any deeper and only randomly pulling a few state results, in Nebraska, South Carolina, Tennessee and Iowa, none of which would be considered swing states by any election expert.
Biden also outperformed Hillary in Texas, North Carolina and Florida, all of which could or would be considered swing states.
Biden also outperformed Hillary in suburbs in swing states he won as well as those he lost, which maybe not directly stated was acknowledged in the article a couple posts up.
I posted some theories/explanations yesterday as to why there were so many more votes cast in 2020, both for Biden and for Trump. The reality is the meme you posted today explains so much about the election turnout in 2020.
People who focus on Joe Biden's numbers as evidence of fraud are ignoring the truth in your meme. So many people didn't vote for Joe Biden. They voted against Donald Trump.
2020 was all about Trump, for better or for worse. I can tell you straight away, I didn't vote for Joe Biden. I voted against Donald Trump.
The fact that so many, despite being traditional Republicans, voted against Trump versus voting for Biden would explain why Republicans picked up House seats. If you vote Trump out but vote with your party interests down ballot, you're actually keeping your part's interests in the game and simply removing the individual at the top who you consider a national embarrassment.
unfortunately black folk dont vote consistently like they should....there was a big movement in voter registration over the past 4 years..was there a big increase in first time voters, the 18-25 range...the youth movement...is it possible that a lot of folks were just unhappy w/ the show they had been watching for the past 4 years?....a lot of factors are present, I personally just aint gonna fall in line w/ the rigged conspiracy, especially one that trump has peddled since Day 1 as a security blanket in my opinion....if evidence surfaces, i will become a believer, and all conspirators need to be dealt w/ to the fullest extent of the law...until then i'll believe that the American people voted in a free and fair election
Just w question concerning your comment on athletes being a part of ruining us. How did you feel when Coach K had the video with him saying, “just say it - Black Lives Matter over and over?” For me, it was a huge turnoff. I can’t stand anything BLM stands for. Do you think he was just pandering to the athletes and just didn’t know what the organization stands for at the time he said that?
there is a HUGE difference between the organization BLM and the movement, sentiment or hashtag #BLM.............the movement/#/sentiment............i for one and I would assume many dont give two bleepity bleeps about the organization, but care deeply for the movement/sentiment/#......kinda seems that the part I care about should change the name, but the name is perfect
I agree to your response, except I think it should be all lives matter. I really liked the practice jersey Duke wore in their scrimmage. I think it should be equality for all Americans- black, white, yellow, brown, etc... I think if we truly want to end racism, we need to quit singling out one race. I don’t think you should list race on any application or form for that matter.
All Lives Matter 100% all day every day......saying Black Lives Matter doesnt take away from that, it brings much needed attention to the current plight of injustices that we are witnessing live and in color in videos ...no life matters more, but it seems race dictates much different outcomes when in general all things and complying and such are being done the same way......its not singling out a race, its singling out the injustices that we are witnessing far too often within a particular race that shouldn't be.......just a small example...its Breast Cancer awareness month, are you saying, but All Cancer Matters?....a house 3 doors down from you is on fire, are you outside telling the firemen to hose your house as well, because all houses matter...that burning house is all that matters at that moment....not directed at you
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Can of worms opened!
I prefer to not mix sports and politics. For me, sports show the values of teamwork, sportsmanship and perseverance. There are always great stories among the players, coaches and staff...many a tear has been shed due to College Gameday stories for example. When players, coaches and programs start to weigh in on issues it definitely turns me away. I am sure that there are different opinions on teams, and within programs but it seems that only one narrative is supported. I'm also not a fan of being lectured to by those who have ascended to achieve the American dream in their chosen profession and now have a lifestyle completely different from the working public. Sports is a respite from conversations like the rest of this thread, from the everyday grind, a chance to just enjoy the competition and just enjoy and immerse in the emotions of competition while cheering on your team. Adding a political element taints that for me.I doubt you meant it in as derogatory of a manner as it sounded, but in no way should what he said be considered pandering. I've read the opinions of a lot of people who seem to think coaches are pandering but the reality is most of those coaches lead lives and have been influenced in ways you cannot comprehend.
Coach K, for instance, has spent over four decades surrounded by educated, professional Black men. The reality is, when it comes to police mistreatment and social injustice, Black folks of all walks of life are able to share stories in which the value of life doesn't seem equal to that of white folks. I shared a story on here a while back about the men in my groom party, our collective achievements, lack of criminal records and the fact that we have all seen the business end of injustice.
Coach K has likely heard those stories for decades and he knows he has a voice, so therefore he chose to use it. Many Duke fans have such a high level of reverence for Coach K, why not listen to what he says and realize he may be speaking from a place of first-hand knowledge that you may not have? Instead it just seems some would rather turn on a man they formerly held in such high esteem.
I completely agree with you. I think K fully knows what the organization stands for. This man is a true patriot, but he’s handcuffed. To get the recruits, he sold his soul, and I think it sickens him.
Simple if K and other coaches don’t say this their recruiting and careers are over
So, there's no chance that Coach K reflected on a lifetime of interactions and thought to give his voice to a movement that asks for respect and equity and for justice for those who didn't receive justice?
Is there a possibility that maybe, in the midst of all this, K called a Johnny Dawkins or a Grant Hill or a Tommy Amaker or a Shane Battier or a Jason William's and they shared a story with him about being a harrassed or profiled or even roughed up by police? And then maybe, K placed a couple more calls and heard a couple more stories. Maybe that led him to have conversations with his current players and he heard more of the same. Maybe some if them showed him some videos that he hadn't seen. Maybe Coach K watched Tamir Rice get gunned down without warning and thought something like that would never happen to his grandson, or if it did the officer would at least be held accountable for such action.
Is it possible these things or similar things happened?
Coach K can be a patriot AND recognize a need for change in how Blacks are treated in this country.
It’s possible. I just don’t think that’s the case. This message, IMO, is nothing but driven by the almighty $$$. Sure, blacks have been treated bad, and in many cases, profiled. But there’s bigger things than this social justice message than what gets said.
The lack of discipline in the black community is the biggest problem. Moms, or grandma’s raising the kids while the father (I won’t say dad) isn’t in the picture. Let’s not talk about that, because we sure don’t want the black community to take any accountability. It’s much easier to play the victim card, or the race card, than it is to take responsibility.
Why is it more predominant in the black community, but not as bad in the Asian or Hispanic? There’s also the race baiters, you know, the ones that only pop up when problems happen. They’re making money off problems. They can’t make money if we all get along. They want it divided.
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If the Democrats want a Covid relief bill make it a covid relief bill that panders to to every liberal wet dream.That three trillion dollar bill is so full of pork that it squeals every time you turn a page.This like when Pelosi said we need to pass Obama Care and then find what is in it
I am struggling to find where I saw how many counties Biden did better than Hillary in. And it was ridiculously low. Like, less than 10. Certainly not as many as you are saying. Are your numbers pure votes, or percentage of votes? Either way, if that was bad information, my apologies.
The point remains. Your theory of that many republicans voting against him and that many people passionate about voting against him would have merit if it were a nationwide trend. It wasn't. Biden did well only in places he was already going to win overwhelmingly and ridiculously well in metro areas of swing states. There are literally 4 counties that make the difference between 270 for Trump and 270 for Biden. And in those counties, counting mysteriously stopped for a period of time while Trump was leading and then once resumed there were ballots literally dumped by the tens and even hundreds of thousands. All +90% for Biden. Those places also saw ridiculously high turnout and historically low rejection rates. It would be bizarre for those odds to play out. But it is 2020 after all, so who knows?
None of that can be certifiably linked to fraud in all likelihood. But it is stupid to think that things are on the up and up. I am ready for it to be over either way. Let pedo Joe and Harris get us back into terrible foreign agreements and revert back into the military era in search of the next war. I will live my life the exact same way as I always have regardless.
Exactly. Put all those agendas in a bill and label it a covid relief bill. That way anyone who doesn't vote for it is the bad guy. They never considered passing a skinny bill and negotiating the rest. That shows that their concerns were never with the people’s struggles. It has always been about politics. The democrats played covid to perfection if you think about it.
Which the Republicans have tried to do but Schumer and the liberals have done everything they can to stop it.Like always with the left it is all or nothing