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it was more this part for the similarity - 'there is a large amount of unhappy people in this world who spend too much time on the internet and need a sense of community and belonging'

The behaviour is definitely not similar. I know little about QAnon but haven't seen them burn, harass or riot in the news vs Antifa who make a habit of it
 

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There is a massive amount of articles out there surrounding criminal actions directly linked to QAnon.

This one actually has a breakdown of several acts of violence associated with it.
Wow. I’m calling ********. You can’t possibly put Q Anon in the same breath as Antifa. To prove the point, you know good and well that if they had done half the crap Antifa has, it would get 5,000% more coverage than they do.
But, here you go again. Remember my reaching comment to you? Yeah, you’ve done it again.
 

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Wow. I’m calling ********. You can’t possibly put Q Anon in the same breath as Antifa. To prove the point, you know good and well that if they had done half the crap Antifa has, it would get 5,000% more coverage than they do.
But, here you go again. Remember my reaching comment to you? Yeah, you’ve done it again.

What are you calling ******** on? QAnon being dangerous? You implied it wasn't dangerous and I gave you one article that outlines a bunch of violent crimes and contains a link to vandalism acts (that's what looting and burning is - vandalism).

What exactly are you calling ******** on? The source or the idea that QAnon followers can also be violent?
 
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it was more this part for the similarity - 'there is a large amount of unhappy people in this world who spend too much time on the internet and need a sense of community and belonging'

The behaviour is definitely not similar. I know little about QAnon but haven't seen them burn, harass or riot in the news vs Antifa who make a habit of it

There is enough sad, lonely people in the world to supply multiple conspiracy theories. QAnon is definitely dangerous, however, in the way their followers get brainwashed and begin to separate from reality. There are a lot of good articles about folks who fall into QAnon.

The Antifa aspect that bothers me most is the showing up and piggybacking their agenda onto that others, while getting others associated with their actions.

I saw a video earlier in the summer (paraphrasing here, no link either - I apologize) where white Antifa protesters showed up to a BLM protest and ignited the destruction. There was a clip of a Black dude trying to stop the Antifa guy from throwing a brick threw a window. Of course, the white dude's response was to basically tell the Black dude to move on if he wasn't out there to handle business and make a difference.

I will try to find the video but I really can't even remember the city.
 
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What are you calling ******** on? QAnon being dangerous? You implied it wasn't dangerous and I gave you one article that outlines a bunch of violent crimes and contains a link to vandalism acts (that's what looting and burning is - vandalism).

What exactly are you calling ******** on? The source or the idea that QAnon followers can also be violent?
They aren’t the same, not nearly. That’s the ********. Instead of acknowledging how horrible Antifa is, you go to digging up dirt on QAnon, just to say look here! Funny, you never mention them until conspiracy stuff comes up. If they had a reputation for violence, our media sure would have beat them down, as you guys are now.
Your refusal to just admit the obvious by this attempt is at best, weak.
 

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The people who think that qanon conspiracy theorists are any more of a threat than the idea known as antifa are the same people who think that Joe Biden got more votes than Jesus
 

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Not exactly. ANTIFA, for as much as I despise the actions of most of them who rep it, is a kinda/sorta movement that originated (like most things, it got messed up and twisted immediately) with folks marching against hate groups (who actually exist). To be clear, this is what I have been able to learn in limited research.

QAnon stemmed out of a conspiracy theory that was based around high-level Democrats and celebrities running a child trafficking ring out of a pizza parlor with the intent of utilizing the kids' blood for some sort of ancient sacrifice. I've read that the reason George Soros is such a target of them is because of the whole "Blood Libel," similarities. To be clear, this is what I have been able to learn about QAnon in limited research.

If I'm wrong on either account I'll take the L.
Do not know anything about Qanon but Soros is hated by conservatives because he had funded many ultra liberal groups such as backing DA’s all across the country who refuse to prosecute criminals
 

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They aren’t the same, not nearly. That’s the ********. Instead of acknowledging how horrible Antifa is, you go to digging up dirt on QAnon, just to say look here! Funny, you never mention them until conspiracy stuff comes up. If they had a reputation for violence, our media sure would have beat them down, as you guys are now.
Your refusal to just admit the obvious by this attempt is at best, weak.

Did you read what I wrote about Antifa?
 

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Trump campaign seems to be distancing itself from Sydney Powell. That doesn't mean that she is full of ****. It means that they don't want to be held accountable for her accusations. Seems like they would want to stand behind her if it helps their cause.

Apparently the campaign isn't just distancing itself from Powell. They fired her.
 
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Do you think Powell was telling so much truth that Trump fired her?

Do you think she's still going to file that biblical lawsuit tomorrow the next day?
That was her words. I believe her but said if she’s wrong, she’s finished.

You are a relentless, sorry piece of ****.
 

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That was her words. I believe her but said if she’s wrong, she’s finished.

You are a relentless, sorry piece of ****.

Why are you so angry?

As you stated, unequivocally, that you believed Sydney Powell, I wanted your opinion on the Trump campaign firing her.
 
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Why are you so angry?

As you stated, unequivocally, that you believed Sydney Powell, I wanted your opinion on the Trump campaign firing her.
Don’t act all innocent. You were being a smug prick. I’ve stated I think she’s telling the truth. I’m honest, it doesn’t look good that she isn’t part of their team. I only reported what she did say.
Maybe this is a sign that we are one step closer to Trump being gone. I hope not.
 

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Do not know anything about Qanon but Soros is hated by conservatives because he had funded many ultra liberal groups such as backing DA’s all across the country who refuse to prosecute criminals
Wasn’t it you who complained that Soros gave money to the campaign of the prosecutor who went after the couple who menaced a BLM march by waving guns at them?
There is a core group on the right who hate Soros because he is Jewish. Trump fanned those flames with his Elders of Zion commercial in 2016 and then claimed, without a shred of evidence, that Soros was funding the caravan of asylum seekers.
 

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Wasn’t it you who complained that Soros gave money to the campaign of the prosecutor who went after the couple who menaced a BLM march by waving guns at them?
It was me. But what you just posted is 1000% a lie. Can’t believe you would say the couple menaced a BLM March by waving guns at them. You are a f n clown. They (BLM) busted through the couples gate at their home. I’ll say it again. The BLM rioters broke a homeowner’s gate, and were standing in their yard. The couples yard.
You are a despicable liar. You just did what our media does. What the f#%^ do you do for a living?
 

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It was me. But what you just posted is 1000% a lie. Can’t believe you would say the couple menaced a BLM March by waving guns at them. You are a f n clown. They (BLM) busted through the couples gate at their home. I’ll say it again. The BLM rioters broke a homeowner’s gate, and were standing in their yard. The couples yard.
You are a despicable liar. You just did what our media does. What the f#%^ do you do for a living?
 

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Don’t act all innocent. You were being a smug prick. I’ve stated I think she’s telling the truth. I’m honest, it doesn’t look good that she isn’t part of their team. I only reported what she did say.
Maybe this is a sign that we are one step closer to Trump being gone. I hope not.

You reported what she said, but also stated you believed her. Knowing the Trump campaign has parted ways with her, do you still believe her?

It would seem they let her go because either:

1) She kept making promises she couldn't deliver

Or

2) Her conspiracy **** was too far out even for the Trump team.
 

Mac9192

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You reported what she said, but also stated you believed her. Knowing the Trump campaign has parted ways with her, do you still believe her?

It would seem they let her go because either:

1) She kept making promises she couldn't deliver

Or

2) Her conspiracy **** was too far out even for the Trump team.
I still believe her. You might be right. Step up to the plate and do the right thing and correct @durhamgolfer. For her to post a vicious lie about the St Louis couple and their run in with BLM at their home, is horrible, and if you have any shred of decency to you at all, tell her how wrong she is.
She’s a nutcase of epic proportions.
 

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I still believe her. You might be right. Step up to the plate and do the right thing and correct @durhamgolfer. For her to post a vicious lie about the St Louis couple and their run in with BLM at their home, is horrible, and if you have any shred of decency to you at all, tell her how wrong she is.
She’s a nutcase of epic proportions.
I am not sure why I get under your skin so much. I posted an article from Vox in response to your meltdown . It is pretty fair to both sides, something that also shows that I am far from a “nutcase of epic proportions” Anyway, no idea why either of you and Topps are so mad, but carry on.
 
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I still believe her. You might be right. Step up to the plate and do the right thing and correct @durhamgolfer. For her to post a vicious lie about the St Louis couple and their run in with BLM at their home, is horrible, and if you have any shred of decency to you at all, tell her how wrong she is.
She’s a nutcase of epic proportions.

What am I supposed to say @durhamgolfer is wrong about?

I remember when the incident happened and I remember the visual of the two white folks waving guns around in their front yard while Black protesters marched past their house.

According to investigations, the protesters walked through openg gates and were heading to the mayor's house to protest. It is also my understanding that, while words were exchanged, none of the protestors stepped on the couple's property.
 

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What am I supposed to say @durhamgolfer is wrong about?

I remember when the incident happened and I remember the visual of the two white folks waving guns around in their front yard while Black protesters marched past their house.

According to investigations, the protesters walked through openg gates and were heading to the mayor's house to protest. It is also my understanding that, while words were exchanged, none of the protestors stepped on the couple's property.
You are wrong. They broke their gate, and came into their backyard. WTF! I gave you a chance, but you’re as stupid as she is.

What would you do if a bunch of people broke through your gate and came into your backyard? You 2 are dumb as dog ****
 

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You are wrong. They broke their gate, and came into their backyard. WTF! I gave you a chance, but you’re as stupid as she is.

What would you do if a bunch of people broke through your gate and came into your backyard? You 2 are dumb as dog ****

Instead of calling names and acting like a child, why don't you link something that shows that's what happened? @durhamgolfer posted an article from a couple months ago and and that article basically stated what I remembered reading at the time.

I never saw or read anything about breaking the couple's personal gate or entering their backyard.

I'm not saying you're lying, because I'm fully believe you saw what you're telling on 4chan or a Trump post. I'm asking you to link a real report that tells your version of the story.
 
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You are wrong. They broke their gate, and came into their backyard. WTF! I gave you a chance, but you’re as stupid as she is.

What would you do if a bunch of people broke through your gate and came into your backyard? You 2 are dumb as dog ****
You know what? Now that you called me stupid and as dumb as dog ****, you have completely convinced me of the error of my ways. Great debating tactic.
 
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There is no proof of when the gate was broken. Did the protesters walk thru an open gate? Possibly. Must be pointed out that many if not majority of them were White.

They did approach on the sidewalk.



For all the destruction caused in St.Louis, few if any were charged. . Thanks to Circuit Attorney Kimberly Gardner.
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There seems to be a pattern in many of these cities. Additionally Mrs.Gardner not only charged the McCloskey's but even pushed forward their case.
 
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Thank you @Alaskan_Assassin_21. I can’t believe you @Jtre for not knowing this. This was big news, but it looks like you put your head in the sand when crime happens to whites. Sorry, just calling it like I see it. The district attorney there is a puppet, put there by Soros.
@durhamgolfer, you are a despicable liar. You are no more after the truth than our media. If you watch Fox any, like you claim to, you would have seen this incident on St Louis. They showed it quite often.

The media is in the tank. Same as you libs.
 

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Thank you @Alaskan_Assassin_21. I can’t believe you @Jtre for not knowing this. This was big news, but it looks like you put your head in the sand when crime happens to whites. Sorry, just calling it like I see it. The district attorney there is a puppet, put there by Soros.
@durhamgolfer, you are a despicable liar. You are no more after the truth than our media. If you watch Fox any, like you claim to, you would have seen this incident on St Louis. They showed it quite often.

The media is in the tank. Same as you libs.
BTW, the Vox article included the stuff AA posted and no I did not put my head in the sand. I just again went to some fairly thorough, accurate sites to learn what happened.
You are right, I don't watch Fox News. In fact, I don't watch any news. What I do is read the news from theFox website from time to time, along with other websites with a more liberal leaning. Given how y'all have given up on Fox and are going to an even more conservative website, I guess I will have to start reading that as well.
In any event, how precisely did Soros put the District Attorney there, as yo maintain? And other than he and the prosecutor holding similar views on law enforcement, which would be why he donated to her campaign, how was she is “puppet.” Your language is similar to that of the anti-semites that Trump courts. So, in response to my unanswered question, it seems that you are perfectly comfortable with his hate-filled rhetoric.
 
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BTW, the Vox article included the stuff AA posted and no I did not put my head in the sand. I just again went to some fairly thorough, accurate sites to learn what happened.
You are right, I don't watch Fox News. In fact, I don't watch any news. What I do is read the news from theFox website from time to time, along with other websites with a more liberal leaning. Given how y'all have given up on Fox and are going to an even more conservative website, I guess I will have to start reading that as well.
In any event, how precisely did Soros put the District Attorney there, as yo maintain? And other than he and the prosecutor holding similar views on law enforcement, which would be why he donated to her campaign, how was she is “puppet.” Your language is similar to that of the anti-semites that Trump courts. So, in response to my unanswered question, it seems that you are perfectly comfortable with his hate-filled rhetoric.
This isn’t hate filled rhetoric. Soros donated to the district attorney’s campaign. It’s what these evil people like him do. They get Uber liberals into spots such as attorneys in major cities. Then you have the Georgia governor, who is being accused as well, plus his chief of staff?, I think. Both sides get bought

This couple from St Louis did nothing wrong, nothing. You can tell from the photos his wife has hardly ever shot a gun of any kind with the way she’s holding the pistol. The point though, is these “marchers” as you claim (lol) broke the gate leading to their home, and were at their back porch. Yet, this pathetic excuse for an attorney tried to charge them! Do you know how ridiculous that is?

That’s like someone stealing my personal truck, drive off in it, only to have it cut off half a mile up the road cause it ran out of gas, and me getting charged.

I want the truth. You and Jtre don’t. You’re more interested in your side being the winner.
 
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Wasn’t it you who complained that Soros gave money to the campaign of the prosecutor who went after the couple who menaced a BLM march by waving guns at them?
There is a core group on the right who hate Soros because he is Jewish. Trump fanned those flames with his Elders of Zion commercial in 2016 and then claimed, without a shred of evidence, that Soros was funding the caravan of asylum seekers.
What in the world with him being Jewish has to do with him having Marxist views.All you do is bring up the race card when someone disagrees with your ideas
 

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BTW, the Vox article included the stuff AA posted and no I did not put my head in the sand. I just again went to some fairly thorough, accurate sites to learn what happened.
You are right, I don't watch Fox News. In fact, I don't watch any news. What I do is read the news from theFox website from time to time, along with other websites with a more liberal leaning. Given how y'all have given up on Fox and are going to an even more conservative website, I guess I will have to start reading that as well.
In any event, how precisely did Soros put the District Attorney there, as yo maintain? And other than he and the prosecutor holding similar views on law enforcement, which would be why he donated to her campaign, how was she is “puppet.” Your language is similar to that of the anti-semites that Trump courts. So, in response to my unanswered question, it seems that you are perfectly comfortable with his hate-filled rhetoric.
How much money had Soros contributed to DA races across the country.Every where he has put these DA went in the crime rates have went up dramatically
 
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Again it was ur hero Obama who built the cages and had more deportations than Trump.The kids that were separated were ones that the authorities could not determine who the parents were

The Obama Admin, may have built the cages for temporary containment of people caught at the border.....but by no means were they used the way in which all the world saw
 

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What in the world with him being Jewish has to do with him having Marxist views.All you do is bring up the race card when someone disagrees with your ideas
When did I say he had Marxist views? Also, your question about what does it have to do with being Jewish shows a certain lack of awareness of the history of anti-semitism. Karl Marx, although non practicing and I believe an atheist, was Jewish and Jews have always been accused of being Marxist.
 

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The Obama Admin, may have built the cages for temporary containment of people caught at the border.....but by no means were they used the way in which all the world saw
Also, those pictures of kids in those cages were of unaccompanied minors. The hope was that by making it clear that they would not be allowed into the US automatically, people in South America would stop sending their kids alone. He did not separate families.
 
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When did I say he had Marxist views? Also, your question about what does it have to do with being Jewish shows a certain lack of awareness of the history of anti-semitism. Karl Marx, although non practicing and I believe an atheist, was Jewish and Jews have always been accused of being Marxist.
Only an idiot like you could mistake hating his world views with anti semiticism.
 
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You liberals are past comical, to the point that your thinking is dangerous. You further cement my view that you're more worried about your side winning than knowing the truth. Comments like "well Obama may have built the cages, but......" Or when someone says something negative about Soros, one of you loons try pulling the race/discrimination card out of your pocket. Soros IS an evil man. But he's just one of many. If any of you try to defend people like him, you're either grossly incompetent, or not much better than he is. I hope it's not the latter.
President Trump has done so much to stop human trafficking, but because its him, you turn a blind eye. Why? Because the media has too.

This is real, and corruption isn't just exclusive to the Democratic Party. Yet, you guys stick your head in the sand on any bad thing that happens to someone you feel is a representative for your side, or you go "well your side is worse."
 

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You are wrong. They broke their gate, and came into their backyard. WTF! I gave you a chance, but you’re as stupid as she is.

What would you do if a bunch of people broke through your gate and came into your backyard? You 2 are dumb as dog ****

The article clearly states that was already a known issue with the gate....take a minute to look at the article posted and click on the "photos of gate" hyperlink.....didnt see anything about backyard, but their house was the first house and people did walk by and stayed on the sidewalk and yeah some people did have a problem with having a gun waved at them for just walking by on their way to the mayors house...and it wasn't their gate, it was a gate at the entrance of the neighborhood for access to the neighborhood which was beside the larger gate that allows cars through

"The McCloskeys claimed the protesters broke through the neighborhood’s gate before charging up to their private property. They and their supporters have cited photos of the gate broken into pieces as proof that the demonstrators violently came through.

But an investigation by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch indicated the gate was open before the protesters walked through. The investigation also found that the McCloskeys, in a previous lawsuit against their neighborhood trustees, knew the gate was in bad shape, arguing that the trustees didn’t maintain or repair it. So the gate could have been broken on accident as the protesters walked through, not due to an act of violence."
 
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You liberals are past comical, to the point that your thinking is dangerous. You further cement my view that you're more worried about your side winning than knowing the truth. Comments like "well Obama may have built the cages, but......" Or when someone says something negative about Soros, one of you loons try pulling the race/discrimination card out of your pocket. Soros IS an evil man. But he's just one of many. If any of you try to defend people like him, you're either grossly incompetent, or not much better than he is. I hope it's not the latter.
President Trump has done so much to stop human trafficking, but because its him, you turn a blind eye. Why? Because the media has too.

This is real, and corruption isn't just exclusive to the Democratic Party. Yet, you guys stick your head in the sand on any bad thing that happens to someone you feel is a representative for your side, or you go "well your side is worse."
Funny, this is precisely how I feel about Trumpites. So I guess we have played to a draw.
 
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The article clearly states that was already a known issue with the gate....take a minute to look at the article posted and click on the "photos of gate" hyperlink.....didnt see anything about backyard, but their house was the first house and people did walk by and stayed on the sidewalk and yeah some people did have a problem with having a gun waved at them for just walking by on their way to the mayors house...and it wasn't their gate, it was a gate at the entrance of the neighborhood for access to the neighborhood which was beside the larger gate that allows cars through

"The McCloskeys claimed the protesters broke through the neighborhood’s gate before charging up to their private property. They and their supporters have cited photos of the gate broken into pieces as proof that the demonstrators violently came through.

But an investigation by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch indicated the gate was open before the protesters walked through. The investigation also found that the McCloskeys, in a previous lawsuit against their neighborhood trustees, knew the gate was in bad shape, arguing that the trustees didn’t maintain or repair it. So the gate could have been broken on accident as the protesters walked through, not due to an act of violence."
Gate open, not open, doesn’t matter. I still believe they broke the gate. The point is they came onto private property and were not invited. Do you know why a lock is on a door? It’s to keep an honest person out. Period. A thief will break in, an honest person won’t. That is it. These protesters are pathetic people.
You’re trying to justify bad behavior and placing blame onto the homeowners. That’s not even being incompetent. For you and others to believe what you do? You guys are a disgrace.
 
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