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And, I take it that you have acknowledged President Biden as the legitimate president of the United States.
I acknowledged that months ago. You are being a complete jackass. But right out of the same playbook as the liberal party, you get to say anything, make any claim and regurgitate any lie without ever having to defend it. And... you don't know the definition of the words you use. Such as, hiatus.
 
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@Jtre says I posted false information. I don’t think so. The problem with his thinking is it’s based off the narrative by msm. Of course anything else seems not true. What libs like him and others fail to recognize, or refuse to see, is the blatant effort by the mob to only give info that they want us to know. It’s what sells.

I’ll say it again, to steal the best line ever posted on here, by @KDSTONE:
The foxes are in charge of the henhouse.
 

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Typical. You got nothing. Whatever your opinion or my opinion is on DeSantis, it has nothing to do with anything I brought up. Add coward to the list of words to describe you.
Well you did compare DeSantis to Cuomo and argued that DeSantis did the better job.
 

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I should congratulate you with being willing to reject all the “stop the steal nonsense” and admit that the vote count was legitimate.
 

Jtre

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@Jtre says I posted false information. I don’t think so. The problem with his thinking is it’s based off the narrative by msm. Of course anything else seems not true. What libs like him and others fail to recognize, or refuse to see, is the blatant effort by the mob to only give info that they want us to know. It’s what sells.

I’ll say it again, to steal the best line ever posted on here, by @KDSTONE:
The foxes are in charge of the henhouse.

The mainstream media didn't teach me that there is a difference between a study and a hypothesis. I learned that in school.

The mainstream media didn't teach me that a hypothesis written by someone who works at the Palo Alto VA is not the same thing as a "study out of Stanford." Knowing how to look up someone's bio helped me with that.

The mainstream media didn't tell me the hypothesis wasn't peer-reviewed. Learning how identify a peer-reviewed paper and looking up the journal that published it (specifically says works are reviewed by the editor and are published to spark conversation) helped me with that.

We've discussed this before. People have a right to their own opinions, but not to their own facts. This is the second time in about a week where you have cited the Gateway Pundit and I didn't have to read any further than the headline or sub-head to find a lie. Not a misrepresentation or misleading comment, but an actual lie that the writer had to know was a lie.
 
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one huge difference between this NY/Florida debate is that NY was the epicenter of our COVID outbreak because of the air travel from Europe...b4 widespread availability of PPE, before doctors/nurses/hospitals knew how to combat and best ways to treat and stabilize.....many, heck all states got an early blueprint from the troubles in NY
 

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I feel your pain Stacey.


The purging of voter rolls in the lead up to the 2020 Georgia was a widely-discussed issue. Claiming it kept people away out of the booth and affected an election outcome is not exactly the same thing as claiming an election was stolen by vote-flipping software created for Hugo Chavez.

And it should be noted, she doesn't say the election was stolen from her, but rather the voters of Georgia.
 

Mac9192

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The purging of voter rolls in the lead up to the 2020 Georgia was a widely-discussed issue. Claiming it kept people away out of the booth and affected an election outcome is not exactly the same thing as claiming an election was stolen by vote-flipping software created for Hugo Chavez.

And it should be noted, she doesn't say the election was stolen from her, but rather the voters of Georgia.
She refuses to concede, even though the stats shown to her by Cruz don’t support her claim.
Do you ever get dizzy from all your spinning?
 

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This dude has become a full-on parody of the angry white male who feels he has lost his place his society.

I know @Mac9192 said at one point he considered him a good source of news but then kinda disowned him when he had the audacity to question Sydney Powell about the Kraken, but I have got to ask, was he always like this? Or has the current climate caused him to ramp up the race-baiting and overall distasteful commentary?
 

Jtre

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She refuses to concede, even though the stats shown to her by Cruz don’t support her claim.
Do you ever get dizzy from all your spinning?

I'm just pointing out there is not a comparison between the two instances and actions.

Cruz showed stats about Black voter turnout when compared to the national average. I only watched the video in the post. Did Cruz make mention of how many Georgia voters were unexpectedly purged from rolls by Brian Kemp in 2017 due to "irregular voting." The number was about 560,000. Since this isn't the kind of thing that you get a notice about, many didn't find out until it became a hot topic in the lead-up to the election. There were many articles about people who found out when they showed up to vote.

You think Kemp is crooked so I'm not sure why you disagree that he might have intentionally tried to suppress the vote of a portion of the electorate that might lead to an election-night loss.
 

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what if 1 of them had a differing opinion...would you have said 2 out of 3 of my doctors or just went with the 2....whats so wrong w/ a simple barrier to help reduce some spread...gotta be better than nothing
Point is that they don’t have differing opinions and states that have laxer guidelines have much lower infection rates than ones with stricter guidelines
 

Mac9192

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This dude has become a full-on parody of the angry white male who feels he has lost his place his society.

I know @Mac9192 said at one point he considered him a good source of news but then kinda disowned him when he had the audacity to question Sydney Powell about the Kraken, but I have got to ask, was he always like this? Or has the current climate caused him to ramp up the race-baiting and overall distasteful commentary?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this Tucker clip. Nothing. Yes, I disagreed with Tucker a while back. And? In this part here, he's spot on with everything he said. This has been a fiasco in the Floyd trial. I'm not so sure Chauvin is as guilty as everyone has thought he was, after reading what I've read. Not saying he didn't cross a line. But, the only verdict blm, and any other anti cop/white person will accept is Guilty.
Maxine Waters should be removed from office. You say her comments were unnecessary. No, they were ignorant. Spoken by an ignorant windbag of a congresswoman. Period. Grow a set and admit that. I know she's on your team, but come on Rev. This is obvious.

Again, you aren't level headed, no matter how hard you try. @durhamgolfer is just a full blown flake, but at least she doesn't hide it.
 
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Jtre

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with this Tucker clip. Nothing. Yes, I disagreed with Tucker a while back. And? In this part here, he's spot on with everything he said. This has been a fiasco in the Floyd trial. I'm not so sure Chauvin is as guilty as everyone has thought he was, after reading what I've read. Not saying he didn't cross a line. But, the only verdict blm, and any other anti cop/white person will accept is Guilty.
Maxine Waters should be removed from office. You say her comments were unnecessary. No, they were ignorant. Spoken by an ignorant windbag of a congresswoman. Period. Grow a set and admit that. I know she's on your team, but come on Rev. This is obvious.

I have criticized Maxine Waters before. I have criticized her on here. I typed what I felt to be accurate. Her comments are unnecessary. If you feel they were ignorant, you are entitled to that opinion. 'Confrontational' is vague as hell. Expelling her from Congress would be difficult, as many who would vote to do so have been on the record in the immediate past saying things far more direct.

As I said, Tucker Carlson has become a parody of an angry white male who feels he has lost his place in society. I don't expect you to find issue with his comments, as you are who he has parodied.

My issue with Tucker Carlson's comments here are simple. He chose to use the word lynch to describe the media's handling of a government agent who is accused (along with three other government agents) of doing just that to an unarmed Black man. He knows his use of the word attempts to do nothing more than diminish of the power of the word and draw a line of similarity between a reporter's treatment of a cop and a group of people gathered together to castrate a Black man and hang him from a tree. That's a lynching. Not a media outlet painting an accused murderer, who committed his action on video, in a bad light.

Edit: No longer accused.
 
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with this Tucker clip. Nothing. Yes, I disagreed with Tucker a while back. And? In this part here, he's spot on with everything he said. This has been a fiasco in the Floyd trial. I'm not so sure Chauvin is as guilty as everyone has thought he was, after reading what I've read. Not saying he didn't cross a line. But, the only verdict blm, and any other anti cop/white person will accept is Guilty.
Maxine Waters should be removed from office. You say her comments were unnecessary. No, they were ignorant. Spoken by an ignorant windbag of a congresswoman. Period. Grow a set and admit that. I know she's on your team, but come on Rev. This is obvious.

Again, you aren't level headed, no matter how hard you try. @durhamgolfer is just a full blown flake, but at least she doesn't hide it.
You complained like a wuss about people disagreeing with you about a new asst coach and whined that your opinion was as important as everyone else’s. How about doing unto others and stopping this ridiculous insulting and name calling crap.
 

Mac9192

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I have criticized Maxine Waters before. I have criticized her on here. I typed what I felt to be accurate. Her comments are unnecessary. If you feel they were ignorant, you are entitled to that opinion. 'Confrontational' is vague as hell. Expelling her from Congress would be difficult, as many who would vote to do so have been on the record in the immediate past saying things far more direct.

As I said, Tucker Carlson has become a parody of an angry white male who feels he has lost his place in society. I don't expect you to find issue with his comments, as you are who he has parodied.

My issue with Tucker Carlson's comments here are simple. He chose to use the word lynch to describe the media's handling of a government agent who is accused (along with three other government agents) of doing just that to an unarmed Black man. He knows his use of the word attempts to do nothing more than diminish of the power of the word and draw a line of similarity between a reporter's treatment of a cop and a group of people gathered together to castrate a Black man and hang him from a tree. That's a lynching. Not a media outlet painting an accused murderer, who committed his action on video, in a bad light.

Edit: No longer accused.
I'm not surprised with the verdict. I never said he was innocent, just that I'm not sure he's as guilty as charged. This verdict was largely put down due to fear. Fear of **** getting ruined by a bunch of idiots.

You are nothing more than a hack in a suit. Take away the suit, you're still a hack. No difference than a spray painted turd is still a turd, and @durhamgolfer is still a flake.
 
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I'm not surprised with the verdict. I never said he was innocent, just that I'm not sure he's as guilty as charged. This verdict was largely put down due to fear. Fear of **** getting ruined by a bunch of idiots.

You are nothing more than a hack in a suit. Take away the suit, you're still a hack. No difference than a spray painted turd is still a turd, and @durhamgolfer is still a flake.
There is no such thing as partially guilty. Wtf are you talking about?
 
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There is no such thing as partially guilty. Wtf are you talking about?
You can be convicted on some counts but not other. guilty on one count. Acquitted on another. Eg if he had been charged with first degree he would have been found not guilty as proving intent is a very high bar. Not an expert on Minnesota code but in a few states he likely would have been charged with manslaughter not second or three degree murder imho reckless indifference or negligence leading to a death somewhat akin to a drunk driver causing the death of another
 

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For what it’s worth, Alan Dershowitz said due to Maxine Waters comments and the judge refusing to sequester the jury, the case will go to the Supreme Court, and they will reverse this decision.
 
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For what it’s worth, Alan Dershowitz said due to Maxine Waters comments and the judge refusing to sequester the jury, the case will go to the Supreme Court, and they will reverse this decision.
I did not see where Dershowitz made that prediction but if he did, he should not have. There is no evidence in the trial record to support a claim that the jury was influenced by what she said. We can criticize her or whatever but a court goes by what is specifically placed on the trial record by the parties. Here, when the defense moved for a mistrial, the judge actually denied it because he trusted that the jurors had followed his instructions not to read the papers or listen to press accounts of the trial. In NY at least, the defense could make a post-judgment motion to take another crack at having the verdict set aside on this ground. To do that, though, they would need affidavits from at least one juror who said he/she was aware of Waters comments and they influenced his/her decision. Without that, there are no existing facts to support any type of relief.
As far as this making it to the US Supreme Court, for all the storm und drang this is a fairly common issue in state trials and will not likely be something the Supremes will want to take up. They don't really sit as a basic appeals court but deal with constitutional issues for which there is a split in the state courts. That is a pretty broad strokes explanation for Supreme Court jurisdiction but nothing about what happened here is likely to convince three justices to grant cert.
 

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I did not see where Dershowitz made that prediction but if he did, he should not have. There is no evidence in the trial record to support a claim that the jury was influenced by what she said. We can criticize her or whatever but a court goes by what is specifically placed on the trial record by the parties. Here, when the defense moved for a mistrial, the judge actually denied it because he trusted that the jurors had followed his instructions not to read the papers or listen to press accounts of the trial. In NY at least, the defense could make a post-judgment motion to take another crack at having the verdict set aside on this ground. To do that, though, they would need affidavits from at least one juror who said he/she was aware of Waters comments and they influenced his/her decision. Without that, there are no existing facts to support any type of relief.
As far as this making it to the US Supreme Court, for all the storm und drang this is a fairly common issue in state trials and will not likely be something the Supremes will want to take up. They don't really sit as a basic appeals court but deal with constitutional issues for which there is a split in the state courts. That is a pretty broad strokes explanation for Supreme Court jurisdiction but nothing about what happened here is likely to convince three justices to grant cert.
Agree with the last point. No court with Roberts as its Chief Justice would touch this case with a ten foot pole and Dershowitz knows this. He was trolling before it became cool
 

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with this Tucker clip. Nothing. Yes, I disagreed with Tucker a while back. And? In this part here, he's spot on with everything he said. This has been a fiasco in the Floyd trial. I'm not so sure Chauvin is as guilty as everyone has thought he was, after reading what I've read. Not saying he didn't cross a line. But, the only verdict blm, and any other anti cop/white person will accept is Guilty.
Maxine Waters should be removed from office. You say her comments were unnecessary. No, they were ignorant. Spoken by an ignorant windbag of a congresswoman. Period. Grow a set and admit that. I know she's on your team, but come on Rev. This is obvious.

Again, you aren't level headed, no matter how hard you try. @durhamgolfer is just a full blown flake, but at least she doesn't hide it.
Much of the left is so disappointed with this verdict. They wanted more looting more destruction of our way of life. A guilty verdict reflects a justice system unbroken. It reflects the reality of the situation that a rogue cop crossed the line and will now possibly spend the rest of his life in jail. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that if an unpopular decision is reached these brainwashed sheep will use it as an excuse to commit felonious acts. If the decision they claim they want is reached, they will quickly say. Well America’s still racist. They will never be satisfied.
 

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I'm not surprised with the verdict. I never said he was innocent, just that I'm not sure he's as guilty as charged. This verdict was largely put down due to fear. Fear of **** getting ruined by a bunch of idiots.

You are nothing more than a hack in a suit. Take away the suit, you're still a hack. No difference than a spray painted turd is still a turd, and @durhamgolfer is still a flake.

I do wear damn nice suits.

On the real, though, why do you always get so angry and resort to insults?

I have noticed that you seem to really get worked up when outcomes that you really believe in don't swing your direction?

Trump loses the election? It was due to sytem-fixing by Republican governors and secretaries of state along with rampant cheating in cities filled with people he spent four years insulting.

White cop gets convicted of murdering an unarmed Black man while smirking to a video camera? The jury didn't really think he was guilty they were just scared of what would happen if they didn't convict.

Don't you ever get tired of living in a state of perpetual victimhood? The world isn't out to get you and those with whom you identify. America is the greatest country on the planet. Just dust yourself off, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and go out there and make something of your life. You can do it.
 

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Much of the left is so disappointed with this verdict. They wanted more looting more destruction of our way of life. A guilty verdict reflects a justice system unbroken. It reflects the reality of the situation that a rogue cop crossed the line and will now possibly spend the rest of his life in jail. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that if an unpopular decision is reached these brainwashed sheep will use it as an excuse to commit felonious acts. If the decision they claim they want is reached, they will quickly say. Well America’s still racist. They will never be satisfied.

So my social circle and family members are probably (hopefully) not what you think of when "THE LEFT," comes to mind, but yeah, I haven't heard any of this wanting to loot and destroy stuff. If anything, we shared a few emotional moments and then actually had a couple real conversations about how sad it is that, in 2021, a case that was this open and shut might be considered a watershed moment. Rest assured, though, not a single person I spoke with today is disappointed about today's verdict. F--K anybody on "THE LEFT," who is.

By the way, "our way of life?" What the does that even mean? How do you think your way of life is so significantly different than mine?
 

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Much of the left is so disappointed with this verdict. They wanted more looting more destruction of our way of life. A guilty verdict reflects a justice system unbroken. It reflects the reality of the situation that a rogue cop crossed the line and will now possibly spend the rest of his life in jail. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that if an unpopular decision is reached these brainwashed sheep will use it as an excuse to commit felonious acts. If the decision they claim they want is reached, they will quickly say. Well America’s still racist. They will never be satisfied.
What complete and utter nonsense. One verdict hardly redeems the justice system and it is absolutely ridiculous that people would have preferred an acquittal so they could riot. Talk about being brainwashed. Your view on life and on your fellow Americans is really twisted.
 

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What complete and utter nonsense. One verdict hardly redeems the justice system and it is absolutely ridiculous that people would have preferred an acquittal so they could riot. Talk about being brainwashed. Your view on life and on your fellow Americans is really twisted.

I didn't actually want to get into the part about what this verdict proves because, all the way real, I've been tired of that discussion. This proves that there are times and places and certain cases where everything comes together and a jury will convict of a cop of killing an unarmed Black man. It's happened before. Hopefully it will happen again in these open cases. The problem is the frequency in which the killings occur and the frequency in which the cops are either acquitted or never face charges at all. The more who are held criminally accountable will hopefully lead to a decrease in these situations.


This was earlier today. F--king terrible.
 

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And now with the nonsense from predictable quarters. Do you really think someone is going to come right out and say “I’m disappointed in the verdict because I wanted to see more rioting and looting”. Watch cnn and the other propagandist machines tonight and you don’t get much positivity relief. It interferes with their narrative that we’re living in nazi Germany 2.0 They’ve been pushing this narrative since the Ferguson hoax and this verdict gets in the way that this nations justice system is “systemically racist”.
 

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About What complete and utter nonsense. One verdict hardly redeems the justice system and it is absolutely ridiculous that people would have preferred an acquittal so they could riot. Talk about being brainwashed. Your view on life and on your fellow Americans is really twisted.
You’re the one who never has anything positive to say about this great nation we live in and don’t give a rats *** about anything other than identity politics and virtue signaling You’re the twisted sister
 
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You’re the one who never has anything positive to say about this great nation we live in and don’t give a rats *** about anything other than identity politics and virtue signaling You’re the twisted sister
God you are so full of ****. Mac is the one who keeps trying to pigeon-hole me into some identity that does not fit. But what is "virtue signaling?"
 

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What complete and utter nonsense. One verdict hardly redeems the justice system and it is absolutely ridiculous that people would have preferred an acquittal so they could riot. Talk about being brainwashed. Your view on life and on your fellow Americans is really twisted.
I made the mistake of trying to extend an olive branch to you the other day regarding our shared love of golf and the minute I post something you disagree with, you revert back to Nonsense, twisted, brainwashed. Classy
 

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So my social circle and family members are probably (hopefully) not what you think of when "THE LEFT," comes to mind, but yeah, I haven't heard any of this wanting to loot and destroy stuff. If anything, we shared a few emotional moments and then actually had a couple real conversations about how sad it is that, in 2021, a case that was this open and shut might be considered a watershed moment. Rest assured, though, not a single person I spoke with today is disappointed about today's verdict. F--K anybody on "THE LEFT," who is.

By the way, "our way of life?" What the does that even mean? How do you think your way of life is so significantly different than mine?
“I haven’t heard any of this wanting to loot and burn stuff”. Oh dear it’s been going on for about a year so I just kind of figured someone muat be enjoying it. I know right?
 

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What complete and utter nonsense. One verdict hardly redeems the justice system and it is absolutely ridiculous that people would have preferred an acquittal so they could riot. Talk about being brainwashed. Your view on life and on your fellow Americans is really twisted.
So having activists outside the courthouse threatening riots and looting represent your idea of justice.Chavin may well have been guilty but the circumstances surrounding this trial absolutely insured that he could have a fair trial
 
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So my social circle and family members are probably (hopefully) not what you think of when "THE LEFT," comes to mind, but yeah, I haven't heard any of this wanting to loot and destroy stuff. If anything, we shared a few emotional moments and then actually had a couple real conversations about how sad it is that, in 2021, a case that was this open and shut might be considered a watershed moment. Rest assured, though, not a single person I spoke with today is disappointed about today's verdict. F--K anybody on "THE LEFT," who is.

By the way, "our way of life?" What the does that even mean? How do you think your way of life is so significantly different than mine?
“Our way of life” refers to the fact that most of our nation still lives under police protection, where we are protected from violent acts against person and property If the defund the police anarchists have their way this would change. Therefore our way of life would be compromised. Don’t play dumber