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[Mac9192]

What venom? You say this all the time, but I have to ask what do you consider venom?

Everything statement I made was one of fact.

To clarify so you don't think it was venomous, Trump did insult people's intelligence immediately upon entering office.

He said his inauguration was the biggest turnout ever. It wasn't.

Pictures were shown. He denied them. His press secretary invented the term alternative facts as a retort.

He said his 2016 electoral win was the biggest blowout ever. Everyone knew it wasn't. When presented with facts, he retreated to, "that's what I was told."

Comments like that from the President ot the United States are stupid and, yes, insulting.

We're having a dialogue about why people wanted the President out of office as soon as he got there. I'm not sure where the venom is in my pointing out things the President did and said that immediately after getting there that would lead people to feel that way.

We didn't vote for Trump to due to his personality. It was to change what has been going on for decades. I haven't thought any of our last few presidents did as good as they should. They have all been hooked by the special interests groups. Trump is wealthy, and didn't need their support. That's a huge part of the disdain for him. They can't control him.
I wasn't crazy about Trump 4 years ago. But, things he said he was going to do, he's done. What you all are too blind to see is how corrupt and horrible our media is. Instead, a man that has never held office is suddenly the cause of all our problems in the last few years. Funny though that politicians, from both sides, have been doing nothing for decades.
They get elected, (both parties) and suddenly over a period of time, they own multiple homes, and are worth millions. On roughly $180,000 a year?

 

[Jtre]

We didn't vote for Trump to due to his personality. It was to change what has been going on for decades. I haven't thought any of our last few presidents did as good as they should. They have all been hooked by the special interests groups. Trump is wealthy, and didn't need their support. That's a huge part of the disdain for him. They can't control him.
Everything I'm stating is fact. I wasn't crazy about Trump 4 years ago. But, things he said he was going to do, he's done. What you all are too blind to see is how corrupt and horrible our media is. Instead, a man that has never held office is suddenly the cause of all our problems in the last few years. Funny though that politicians, from both sides, have been doing nothing for decades.
They get elected, (both parties) and suddenly over a period of time, they own multiple homes, and are worth millions. On roughly $180,000 a year?

Why do you throw out **** to me, I respond and will answer questions, yet you never respond to my questions? You just ignore and ramble a little more.

Trump is so wealthy that he can't be controlled, yet he can't comp rooms to the Secret Service when they stay at hotels he owns?

If special interest groups can't control him due to his wealth why did he show a tendency to talk strong as hell every time some kid shot up a school only to temper his words and stop pushing for any kind action after he would meet with NRA lobbyists? It seems they have a little pull with him.

If his extreme wealth keeps him from being manipulated by others, why did he basically say the Saudis could kill American residents with American children as long as they're going to spend big money (although not as big as Trump claimed) with the US?

As far as your question at the end, most politicians are far from broke and have other outside interests when they run for office. Although I think Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a borderline Donald Trump of the other side, one of the reasons her nomination and election were so newsworthy because she was a broke bartender when she launched her political career.

 

[Mac9192]

Why do you throw out **** to me, I respond and will answer questions, yet you never respond to those? You just ramble a little more.

Trump is so wealthy that he can't be controlled, yet he can't comp rooms to the Secret Service when they stay at hotels he owns?

If special interest groups can't control him due to his wealth why did he show a tendency to talk strong as hell every time some kid shot up a school only to temper his words and stop pushing for any kind action after he would meet with NRA lobbyists? It seems they have a little pull with him.

If his extreme wealth keeps him from being manipulated by others, why did he basically say the Saudis could kill American residents with American children as long as they're going to spend big money (although not as big as Trump claimed) with the US?

As far as your question at the end, most politicians are far from broke and have other outside interests when they run for office. Although I think Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a borderline Donald Trump of the other side, one of the reasons her nomination and election were so newsworthy because she was a broke bartender when she launched her political career.

I'm not doing anything but answering. You just don't agree. I've stated that I'm not happy with sometimes how Trump talks. I'll give you that point. The folks that vote for Trump admit he has a big mouth too. You guys don't mind slinging mud at Trump for his mouth, yet I've heard no praise for any of his good decisions. There's plenty there, too. There's also plenty of criticism that could be slung at Biden, I've just not seen any.
A lot of what I don't agree with you on comes down to who's doing the reporting. We disagree so much due to the info we receive. I refuse to watch news other than Fox, and I've said they aren't what they used to be. But, the other stations despise him so much, and go out of their way to criticize him. You guys line up with them.

 

[Jtre]

I'm not doing anything but answering. You just don't agree. I've stated that I'm not happy with sometimes how Trump talks. I'll give you that point. The folks that vote for Trump admit he has a big mouth too. You guys don't mind slinging mud at Trump for his mouth, yet I've heard no praise for any of his good decisions. There's plenty there, too. There's also plenty of criticism that could be slung at Biden, I've just not seen any.
A lot of what I don't agree with you on comes down to who's doing the reporting. We disagree so much due to the info we receive. I refuse to watch news other than Fox, and I've said they aren't what they used to be. But, the other stations despise him so much, and go out of their way to criticize him. You guys line up with them.

Below are all questions I questions I posed regarding your voter fraud questions.

You seem really confused as to how the promotion of mail-in voting would lead to increased turnout. Are you really concerned that a society who no longer has the patience or attention span to listen to full-length albums would not be more inclined to vote if they were given the option not to make a special trip to stand in line all day?

Next, are you really surprised that the candidate who promoted the safety and legitimacy of mail-in voting would have a better mail-in turnout than the candidate who told his supporters not to worry about Covid and that their mail-in votes would be thrown out?

Finally, do you just consider the votes for Biden to be fraudulent or do you think all the ones for Republican senators and representatives are, too?

I don't think I've seen you actually address any of them. I'm genuinely curious what you think.

Your thing about news. The fact that you openly say, in this information era, that you refuse to seek out news, data or information from any source other than one is mind-blowing to me. Not just politically speaking, there is a lot of interesting stuff out there to be learned. You should explore.

You have mentioned a few times Fox isn't what they used to be. What aspects of Fox News or which reporters do you still like?

 

[durhamgolfer]

We didn't vote for Trump to due to his personality. It was to change what has been going on for decades. I haven't thought any of our last few presidents did as good as they should. They have all been hooked by the special interests groups. Trump is wealthy, and didn't need their support. That's a huge part of the disdain for him. They can't control him.
I wasn't crazy about Trump 4 years ago. But, things he said he was going to do, he's done. What you all are too blind to see is how corrupt and horrible our media is. Instead, a man that has never held office is suddenly the cause of all our problems in the last few years. Funny though that politicians, from both sides, have been doing nothing for decades.
They get elected, (both parties) and suddenly over a period of time, they own multiple homes, and are worth millions. On roughly $180,000 a year?

I am not sure how a guy who has a $400,000,000 debt that must be paid is actually that wealthy. As far as Trump doing what he said he would do, I want what you are smoking. That statement simply has no basis in reality.

 

[Mac9192]

Below are all questions I questions I posed regarding your voter fraud questions.



I don't think I've seen you actually address any of them. I'm genuinely curious what you think.

Your thing about news. The fact that you openly say, in this information era, that you refuse to seek out news, data or information from any source other than one is mind-blowing to me. Not just politically speaking, there is a lot of interesting stuff out there to be learned. You should explore.

You have mentioned a few times Fox isn't what they used to be. What aspects of Fox News or which reporters do you still like?

The votes for senators and governors don't carry the attention the President does. The mail in voting was set up more for the Presidential race. Biden would not have won if not for the scare tactics passed along due to covid. I find it hard to believe that all these ballots are legit. We've heard the stories where the republicans were there, but couldn't get close to see the counting. You guys just don't see, and don't want to see, the cloud that has come with mail in voting.
I like Tucker Carlson, some from Hannity, and Laura Ingraham. I line up with their views. I'll admit it. There's others on Fox that are solid, that offer no opinion, like Baier, McCallum, and Bream. I also like Bill O'Reilly, who's not at Fox. I have lost a lot of respect for Chris Wallace. I thought he wasn't much better than Trump was that night of the first debate. I actually think the lady from nbc did a better job. Poor Juan Williams at Fox is as delusional as durhamgolfer and shatter.
Like I said, I think you do a better job trying to debate, but your bias still gets in the way. I hear Trump this, Trump that. When right in front of us is now the face of the democrats, a 78 year old inept man that should be in a retirement home, and I have heard nothing from you all. I've yet to hear a critical word from you or the 2 stooges about Biden or Harris. Honestly, it shouldn't be that hard. What's even more head scratching is that you guys act like he's fit to handle the office. I'd like to see cnn's Cuomo hooked up to a polygraph and asked if Biden was mentally competent to handle being president. I know the answer. Most people do too.

 

[durhamgolfer]

The votes for senators and governors don't carry the attention the President does. The mail in voting was set up more for the Presidential race. Biden would not have won if not for the scare tactics passed along due to covid. I find it hard to believe that all these ballots are legit. We've heard the stories where the republicans were there, but couldn't get close to see the counting. You guys just don't see, and don't want to see, the cloud that has come with mail in voting.
I like Tucker Carlson, some from Hannity, and Laura Ingraham. I line up with their views. I'll admit it. There's others on Fox that are solid, that offer no opinion, like Baier, McCallum, and Bream. I also like Bill O'Reilly, who's not at Fox. I have lost a lot of respect for Chris Wallace. I thought he wasn't much better than Trump was that night of the first debate. I actually think the lady from nbc did a better job. Poor Juan Williams at Fox is as delusional as durhamgolfer and shatter.
Like I said, I think you do a better job trying to debate, but your bias still gets in the way. I hear Trump this, Trump that. When right in front of us is now the face of the democrats, a 78 year old inept man that should be in a retirement home, and I have heard nothing from you all. I've yet to hear a critical word from you or the 2 stooges about Biden or Harris. Honestly, it shouldn't be that hard. What's even more head scratching is that you guys act like he's fit to handle the office. I'd like to see cnn's Cuomo hooked up to a polygraph and asked if Biden was mentally competent to handle being president. I know the answer. Most people do too.

The news people that you listed are not serious journalists. I know because I have taken the time to listen to and/or read them to form my own opinion. I am not delusional. I am informed. What would be so wrong about taking a gander at The NY Times or Vox or Slate or Politico? It is always good to know what the other side is thinking. I have learned a lot by doing that. Sadly it is that a large swath of our country is poorly informed and bigoted but always good to know what you are up against.

 

[Mac9192]

The news people that you listed are not serious journalists. I know because I have taken the time to listen to and/or read them to form my own opinion. I am not delusional. I am informed. What would be so wrong about taking a gander at The NY Times or Vox or Slate or Politico? It is always good to know what the other side is thinking. I have learned a lot by doing that. Sadly it is that a large swath of our country is poorly informed and bigoted but always good to know what you are up against.

Through it all, you (and the others) have never stated what it is about Biden that makes him a good choice for President. You go around it, and aren’t afraid to criticize Trump. But crickets on anything useful about Sleepy Joe.
Will you ever answer? I think I know why you won’t. But, I’ve asked, again.

 

[denverexpat]

Completely shattered by a president who made clear he would only cater to his base. Schumer actually said the Dems would work with him to get things done that were good for America. But then Trump showed his true stripes. I am in a blue state and pay state and local taxes. I am also in a donor state so I get less coming back from my taxes than people in a lot of those red states. Well thanks to his professed hatred of the blue states, the state and local tax deduction has been so scaled back that I get killed each tax day. If you are going to ask why the country could not come together, you have to take a really hard look at the Republican party and its kowtowing to someone who acted out his personal vendettas.

You are in a blue state - how do the state and local tax increases become a federal tax issue and Trumps fault when he lowered those Fed rates? Not logical. Day one the rhetoric from Schumer and Pelosi was he's not our president, resist and russian spy accusations. Hardly conducive to working together.

If you are going to promote unity, you have to take a really hard look at the Democrat party and how it promoted conspiracy theories, impeachment and division on every issue ( I'll leave out the personal attacks since that was across both lines)

 

[topps coach]

Through it all, you (and the others) have never stated what it is about Biden that makes him a good choice for President. You go around it, and aren’t afraid to criticize Trump. But crickets on anything useful about Sleepy Joe.
Will you ever answer? I think I know why you won’t. But, I’ve asked, again.

Easy answer Mac The spokesperson for Biden said yesterday that Biden will honor the progressive agenda so the liberals are happy and don’t need to answer The country Is sscrewed if Senate turns blue

 

[denverexpat]

The news people that you listed are not serious journalists. I know because I have taken the time to listen to and/or read them to form my own opinion. I am not delusional. I am informed. What would be so wrong about taking a gander at The NY Times or Vox or Slate or Politico? It is always good to know what the other side is thinking. I have learned a lot by doing that. Sadly it is that a large swath of our country is poorly informed and bigoted but always good to know what you are up against.

Can you elaborate on your definition of a serious journalist? One you use to be informed please?
You cited Vox, Slate and Politico.....presume that was satire..since they are hardly serious unbias news sources. Interesting that by not reading your sources people are poorly informed and bigoted....given you asked why we cannot all get along...maybe first look within

 

[durhamgolfer]

You are in a blue state - how do the state and local tax increases become a federal tax issue and Trumps fault when he lowered those Fed rates? Not logical. Day one the rhetoric from Schumer and Pelosi was he's not our president, resist and russian spy accusations. Hardly conducive to working together.

If you are going to promote unity, you have to take a really hard look at the Democrat party and how it promoted conspiracy theories, impeachment and division on every issue ( I'll leave out the personal attacks since that was across both lines)

I think you misunderstand. I lost the deduction of state and local taxes from my federal taxes. While Trump lowered rates, that was nowhere near enough to make up for those losses. And that was completely aimed at the blue states.

Schumer absolutely was willing to work with Trump and he took a lot of crap from the Dems/. Remember "what the ****, chuck"? As far as the conspiracy theories, again, as the Mueller report made clear and as quotes from both him and the people who worked on the investigation, it was absolutely the case that the Russians attempted to interfere ion our election b/c they thought they would do better with Trump as president and it is absolutely the case that there was probable cause to believe that Trump conspired with them. What was particularly galling though was the way the House behaved. Nunes should have been indicted for some of the crap he pulled and once the national intelligence services stated that they had proof of Russian interference, Congress should have launched an investigation into the vulnerabilities of our voting system. I ask more than willing to accept that the Russians did not manage to mess with the vote and that Trump honestly lost by 3 million votes. What I cannot accept is my government standing idly by while another country tried to take over our democracy. It was absolutely shameful.

 

[durhamgolfer]

Can you elaborate on your definition of a serious journalist? One you use to be informed please?
You cited Vox, Slate and Politico.....presume that was satire..since they are hardly serious unbias news sources. Interesting that by not reading your sources people are poorly informed and bigoted....given you asked why we cannot all get along...maybe first look within

Actually, if you ever bother to read them, they have serious discussions about difficult topics and they lay out the issues for both sides. I am sure they have their biases. Every news agency does. They are made up of human beings and human beings have biases. But by reading them, as well as Fox, as well as Washington Examiner etc. I feel like I get a rounded view and then can make my own conclusions.

 

[Mac9192]

Actually, if you ever bother to read them, they have serious discussions about difficult topics and they lay out the issues for both sides. I am sure they have their biases. Every news agency does. They are made up of human beings and human beings have biases. But by reading them, as well as Fox, as well as Washington Examiner etc. I feel like I get a rounded view and then can make my own conclusions.

And after reading the different views, you’re still liberal?

 

[durhamgolfer]

Through it all, you (and the others) have never stated what it is about Biden that makes him a good choice for President. You go around it, and aren’t afraid to criticize Trump. But crickets on anything useful about Sleepy Joe.
Will you ever answer? I think I know why you won’t. But, I’ve asked, again.

We have actually stated it over and over. But here it goes again. Partly, I admit I was in the camp of "anybody but Trump." In fact, quite frankly I would have voted for Magilla Gorilla because I thought even a cartoon character would do a better just at leading this country than our current idiot. As for Biden, he will give primacy to science so we can tackle this pandemic that you seem to think is a big nothingburger, despite the fact that it has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. Under Biden, we can have a serious discussion about climate change, which is threatening the planet. I also like his attitude about the police, which is not to defund them but to give them additional funds so that they can properly train their corps as to how to handle difficult situations and defuse life threatening situations. I find it interesting that you continue to call him senile when Trump is about as unhinged as you can be. I look forward to a President who respects democratic norms and who will act in a dignified manner when dealing with foreign heads of state and who won't behave like such a buffoon when it comes to dictators. And, while it is likely that Roe will be reversed thanks to some unbelievable underhandedness by Moscow Mitch, I appreciate that Biden respects women and will not undermine institutions like Planned Parenthood, something the ridiculously misogynistic Republican Party was just chomping on the bit to do. So there is your answer.

 

[durhamgolfer]

And after reading the different views, you’re still liberal?

I am not sure what you mean by liberal but after reading everything, the Democratic Party still is the one I want to belong to.

 

[topps coach]

We have actually stated it over and over. But here it goes again. Partly, I admit I was in the camp of "anybody but Trump." In fact, quite frankly I would have voted for Magilla Gorilla because I thought even a cartoon character would do a better just at leading this country than our current idiot. As for Biden, he will give primacy to science so we can tackle this pandemic that you seem to think is a big nothingburger, despite the fact that it has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. Under Biden, we can have a serious discussion about climate change, which is threatening the planet. I also like his attitude about the police, which is not to defund them but to give them additional funds so that they can properly train their corps as to how to handle difficult situations and defuse life threatening situations. I find it interesting that you continue to call him senile when Trump is about as unhinged as you can be. I look forward to a President who respects democratic norms and who will act in a dignified manner when dealing with foreign heads of state and who won't behave like such a buffoon when it comes to dictators. And, while it is likely that Roe will be reversed thanks to some unbelievable underhandedness by Moscow Mitch, I appreciate that Biden respects women and will not undermine institutions like Planned Parenthood, something the ridiculously misogynistic Republican Party was just chomping on the bit to do. So there is your answer.

The science hating President you gripe administration warp speed program has apparently given incentives to drug companies that will be 90 Percent effective.Biden will probably take credit for this too.Before you go there the current administration garanteed 1.0 billion in sales to get them motivated.Amazong when the only issue that Biden ran on was Covid this breakthrough came out days after the election

 

[Mac9192]

We have actually stated it over and over. But here it goes again. Partly, I admit I was in the camp of "anybody but Trump." In fact, quite frankly I would have voted for Magilla Gorilla because I thought even a cartoon character would do a better just at leading this country than our current idiot. As for Biden, he will give primacy to science so we can tackle this pandemic that you seem to think is a big nothingburger, despite the fact that it has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans. Under Biden, we can have a serious discussion about climate change, which is threatening the planet. I also like his attitude about the police, which is not to defund them but to give them additional funds so that they can properly train their corps as to how to handle difficult situations and defuse life threatening situations. I find it interesting that you continue to call him senile when Trump is about as unhinged as you can be. I look forward to a President who respects democratic norms and who will act in a dignified manner when dealing with foreign heads of state and who won't behave like such a buffoon when it comes to dictators. And, while it is likely that Roe will be reversed thanks to some unbelievable underhandedness by Moscow Mitch, I appreciate that Biden respects women and will not undermine institutions like Planned Parenthood, something the ridiculously misogynistic Republican Party was just chomping on the bit to do. So there is your answer.

At least you gave some form of answers. You are putting a monkey in the White House, although you won’t admit a monkey is probably smarter than Biden. I honestly think you’re batshit crazy, but hey, you’re entitled to your opinion.

I will agree that our police might could use some better training. Required, and better safety defense, and class time on minor domestic issues. Don’t know how to really implement that though. But, more important than the police being trained is better raising of kids. That’s more of an issue. Most of these issues start because of how things are at home.

 

[denverexpat]

"ridiculously misogynistic Republican Party" - despite this - electing more women this cycle, and gaining women minority voters over 2016. They must not be very good misogynists. Its statements like this that invalidate your reasoned points and just move you into the partisan category. No matter how much reading you say you do.

 

[Mac9192]

"ridiculously misogynistic Republican Party" - despite this - electing more women this cycle, and gaining women minority voters over 2016. They must not be very good misogynists. Its statements like this that invalidate your reasoned points and just move you into the partisan category. No matter how much reading you say you do.

The saying is so true. Education doesn’t guarantee intelligence.

 

[Jtre]

The votes for senators and governors don't carry the attention the President does. The mail in voting was set up more for the Presidential race. Biden would not have won if not for the scare tactics passed along due to covid. I find it hard to believe that all these ballots are legit. We've heard the stories where the republicans were there, but couldn't get close to see the counting. You guys just don't see, and don't want to see, the cloud that has come with mail in voting.
I like Tucker Carlson, some from Hannity, and Laura Ingraham. I line up with their views. I'll admit it. There's others on Fox that are solid, that offer no opinion, like Baier, McCallum, and Bream. I also like Bill O'Reilly, who's not at Fox. I have lost a lot of respect for Chris Wallace. I thought he wasn't much better than Trump was that night of the first debate. I actually think the lady from nbc did a better job. Poor Juan Williams at Fox is as delusional as durhamgolfer and shatter.
Like I said, I think you do a better job trying to debate, but your bias still gets in the way. I hear Trump this, Trump that. When right in front of us is now the face of the democrats, a 78 year old inept man that should be in a retirement home, and I have heard nothing from you all. I've yet to hear a critical word from you or the 2 stooges about Biden or Harris. Honestly, it shouldn't be that hard. What's even more head scratching is that you guys act like he's fit to handle the office. I'd like to see cnn's Cuomo hooked up to a polygraph and asked if Biden was mentally competent to handle being president. I know the answer. Most people do too.

You still didn't answer any of my election-based questions, I appreciate that you admitted your stance is essentially you just can't believe there are that many people out there who disagree with your feelings and opinions. I can relate. To this day I can't believe there are that many people who believe Nas got Jay-Z in their beef when he dropped, "Ether," but I don't necessarily think Nas paid off the hip-hop journalism community to declare him the winner.

Thank you for answering the Fox News question. I'm going to leave this right here:

https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-car...-his-viewers-know-watch-his-show-some-1534357

That is an article from less than two months ago reporting how Tucker Carlson won a defamation suit by basically using the Larry Flynt defense that no reasonable person would recognize him as a factual source.

Judging by your Fox rundown, it sounds like you're not really a fan of news and more a fan of people telling you what you want to hear.

Lastly, for your questions about Biden, I think he will be a better president because he will be a normal president. He has experience running governmental operations, which are much different than running for profit operations or being a salesman. I think he will display much needed empathy, surround himself with actual advisers to whom he will listen rather than fire for not being yes-men and yes-women and will restore our level of respect on the global stage. I'm not concerned about Biden tanking the economy and you shouldn't be, either. After all, Donald Trump said some years ago that, in his experiences, he's found things to be more profitable when a Democrat is in office.

 

[durhamgolfer]

"ridiculously misogynistic Republican Party" - despite this - electing more women this cycle, and gaining women minority voters over 2016. They must not be very good misogynists. Its statements like this that invalidate your reasoned points and just move you into the partisan category. No matter how much reading you say you do.

Of course I am partisan. We all are. The point was I was asked to explain. why my partisan leanings went Democratic. The Republican Party is still predominantly white male and its assault on women's reproductive rights and reproductive health affirmatively endangers women's health, no matter how many women they have added to their roles.

 

[durhamgolfer]

The saying is so true. Education doesn’t guarantee intelligence.

So true. Trump went to Wharton and look what an idiot he turned out to be as well as an absolutely awful business man.

 

[Mac9192]

You still didn't answer any of my election-based questions, I appreciate that you admitted your stance is essentially you just can't believe there are that many people out there who disagree with your feelings and opinions. I can relate. To this day I can't believe there are that many people who believe Nas got Jay-Z in their beef when he dropped, "Ether," but I don't necessarily think Nas paid off the hip-hop journalism community to declare him the winner.

Thank you for answering the Fox News question. I'm going to leave this right here:

https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-car...-his-viewers-know-watch-his-show-some-1534357

That is an article from less than two months ago reporting how Tucker Carlson won a defamation suit by basically using the Larry Flynt defense that no reasonable person would recognize him as a factual source.

Judging by your Fox rundown, it sounds like you're not really a fan of news and more a fan of people telling you what you want to hear.

Lastly, for your questions about Biden, I think he will be a better president because he will be a normal president. He has experience running governmental operations, which are much different than running for profit operations or being a salesman. I think he will display much needed empathy, surround himself with actual advisers to whom he will listen rather than fire for not being yes-men and yes-women and will restore our level of respect on the global stage. I'm not concerned about Biden tanking the economy and you shouldn't be, either. After all, Donald Trump said some years ago that, in his experiences, he's found things to be more profitable when a Democrat is in office.

Holy sh%#. Is this your comeback? I’m sorry you don’t see eye to eye with me. We think different. I’ve answered, and I’ve been fair about Trump. You do one of the best dodges around. I don’t give a fat baby’s *** what your opinion is on Carlson. You have never said where you get your news from, why you support Biden, yet you only go out of your way to throw mud at Tucker.
Im a conservative, and am damn proud to be one. I’ll never vote for the left. Their views don’t line up with the best interest of our country. You want socialism, move.

 

[Mac9192]

So true. Trump went to Wharton and look what an idiot he turned out to be as well as an absolutely awful business man.

Best president in my lifetime. Not. Even. Close.

 

[Mac9192]

Heard something really weird. Real Clear Politics has taken Arizona and Pennsylvania off the board for Biden.

How are you libs handling this? Sweating a little?

 

[Jtre]

Holy sh%#. Is this your comeback? I’m sorry you don’t see eye to eye with me. We think different. I’ve answered, and I’ve been fair about Trump. You do one of the best dodges around. I don’t give a fat baby’s *** what your opinion is on Carlson. You have never said where you get your news from, why you support Biden, yet you only go out of your way to throw mud at Tucker.
Im a conservative, and am damn proud to be one. I’ll never vote for the left. Their views don’t line up with the best interest of our country. You want socialism, move.

Calm down.

I've seen you mix up the words, "fact," and "opinion," when discussing things that you say, but this is the first time I've realized you don't know the difference between the two.

I didn't give an opinion about Tucker Carlson. I posted a Newsweek (they actually post a lot of right-leaning op-ed pieces) article about the defense Fox's legal team used to help him beat a defamation suit. Again, that's not an opinion. The legal team actually used the defense, the judge agreed and dismissed the suit. It is a fact.

My entire last post explained why I voted for Joe Biden.

I'm not a socialist, although I do like certain aspects of socialism as I'm sure you do, too.

 

[GhostOf301]

 

[Jtre]

Best president in my lifetime. Not. Even. Close.

Aren't you close to 50?

 

[Jtre]

Heard something really weird. Real Clear Politics has taken Arizona and Pennsylvania off the board for Biden.

How are you libs handling this? Sweating a little?

Not in the slightest. All I've heard for a week is that the media doesn't decide elections, so I'm absolutely certain that the Real Clear Politics website doesn't decide them.

Let me know when the AP overturns PA.

 

[durhamgolfer]

Best president in my lifetime. Not. Even. Close.

Heard something really weird. Real Clear Politics has taken Arizona and Pennsylvania off the board for Biden.

How are you libs handling this? Sweating a little?

Not even a little but I am curious where you got that from. Link?

 

[Mac9192]

Not even a little but I am curious where you got that from. Link?

Real Clear Politics.com

 

[denverexpat]

I have a background in data and data science - and since we are talking PA, I thought that this was worth a share. It would be easy to validate as the data is from the PA election board and official reporting i believe. There are anomalies and outliers, then there are the stats that make you say "huh?" when you look at data. Scroll through the analysis methods and observations as you wish. The article is from a right leaning site, the data is not.

https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/pennsylvania-vote-anomalies

 

[GhostOf301]

Some random guy on Twitter posted that RCP retracted PA from Biden and the internet went crazy, when in actuality they had never called PA for Biden. Right now RCP is holding Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania as "too close to call". Arizona is a big one. Unlikely that whatever their outcome is will be overturned. Trump needs it as he does every other too close to call state. Georgia will likely end up being red, NC too. Pennsylvania will likely have enough ballots thrown out by the SCOTUS to flip it to Trump. Outside of a recount or an audit in Wisconsin and Michigan, this race could easily come down to Arizona. Who'd of thought.

 

[durhamgolfer]

Some random guy on Twitter posted that RCP retracted PA from Biden and the internet went crazy, when in actuality they had never called PA for Biden. Right now RCP is holding Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania as "too close to call". Arizona is a big one. Unlikely that whatever their outcome is will be overturned. Trump needs it as he does every other too close to call state. Georgia will likely end up being red, NC too. Pennsylvania will likely have enough ballots thrown out by the SCOTUS to flip it to Trump. Outside of a recount or an audit in Wisconsin and Michigan, this race could easily come down to Arizona. Who'd of thought.

that's some fanciful thinking there.

 

[Jtre]

Some random guy on Twitter posted that RCP retracted PA from Biden and the internet went crazy, when in actuality they had never called PA for Biden. Right now RCP is holding Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, North Carolina and Pennsylvania as "too close to call". Arizona is a big one. Unlikely that whatever their outcome is will be overturned. Trump needs it as he does every other too close to call state. Georgia will likely end up being red, NC too. Pennsylvania will likely have enough ballots thrown out by the SCOTUS to flip it to Trump. Outside of a recount or an audit in Wisconsin and Michigan, this race could easily come down to Arizona. Who'd of thought.

Thanks for clearing that up about RCP. I found the guy who posted about taking PA away from "Sleepy Joe," so I figured there was more to it than what I saw.

To your prediction, do you really think the Supreme Court will throw out over 45,000 votes in Pennsylvania? That seems like an unlikely and, as far as I know, unprecedented scenario.

 

[Mac9192]

that's some fanciful thinking there.

You need a towel to wipe the perspiration off your face?

 

[Mac9192]

That pounding noise you all are hearing is the businesses nailing back up the plywood.
One of you libs do a wellness check on your fellow lib, Shatter.

 

[durhamgolfer]

You need a towel to wipe the perspiration off your face?

not even a little bit.

 

[GhostOf301]

Thanks for clearing that up about RCP. I found the guy who posted about taking PA away from "Sleepy Joe," so I figured there was more to it than what I saw.

To your prediction, do you really think the Supreme Court will throw out over 45,000 votes in Pennsylvania? That seems like an unlikely and, as far as I know, unprecedented scenario.

I think it will be a lot more than 45,000 votes.