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[Mac9192]

I gave some credit to him yesterday about certain things. He's done far more bad, however, than good for this country.

Something so many white people, especially ones like you, have a hard time understanding is that just because Trump has promoted fights involving Blacks at his hotels or had a few Blacks on the Apprentice doesn't mean he wasn't and isn't racist.

He was recognized as a racist far before his election to office. His birther **** along with his views on Muslims and Mexicans are clearly the thoughts and actions of a racist. You don't see that because you don't look like the people on the business end of that ****.

By the way, you talk about all his accomplishments he has but how much of what he ran on did he actually accomplish?

The wall didn't get built and Mexico didnt pay for it.

He didnt repeal and replace Obamacare.

He didn't end ISIS. He had a shot there but, as Jim Mattis has explained, he messed that up.

Apparently, Trump didn't think he did a whole lot of good for the country. After all, his 2020 campaign was based on Making America Great Again and telling you that only he can fix everything currently wrong with the nation. That can work when you're the challenger but it's kind of a hard campaign sell when you're the incumbent.

You always talk about others being soft and flowers and such, but you get very emotional and fly completely off the handle at any criticism levied at Trump.

I guess I'm starting to see why you didn't have Melania on your list of women you like and respect. Jealousy is a terrible thing.

You get worse as the debate goes on. This last post of yours is horrible. No other way to put it. Your hatred and bigotry reeks. All this about Trump. What about the dumbass comments, many racists, that Biden has made during his time in politics? Crickets on him though. Had Trump said some of the ridiculous things Sleepy Joe has said, you and the media would really have a field day.
Usually, and this is true in your case, people that are actually racists, point fingers at others, calling them racists.

I didn’t mean to leave Mrs Trump out. Thanks for correcting me. Gorgeous and classy lady. Total opposite of the hag known as Mrs Obama. Talk about an idiot?

 

[Jtre]

You get worse as the debate goes on. This last post of yours is horrible. No other way to put it. Your hatred and bigotry reeks. All this about Trump. What about the dumbass comments, many racists, that Biden has made during his time in politics? Crickets on him though. Had Trump said some of the ridiculous things Sleepy Joe has said, you and the media would really have a field day.
Usually, and this is true in your case, people that are actually racists, point fingers at others, calling them racists.

I didn’t mean to leave Mrs Trump out. Thanks for correcting me. Gorgeous and classy lady. Total opposite of the hag known as Mrs Obama. Talk about an idiot?

I believe if I judged every white person on feelings they had about race in the 1970s I probably wouldn't have many dealings with white folks who were of adults in the 1970s. People change and times change.

A lot of other quotes from Biden, including eulogizing a former Klansmen who was honored late in life by the NAACP, have been misconstrued and taken out of context. Some of Trump's comments have been taken out of context, too. The problem with Trump is that his most offensive **** usually comes from his own fingertips.

I don't like the 1994 crime bill. Amazingly enough, Joe Biden has admitted that was a mistake. Have you ever heard Trump admit a mistake? Didn't he say he's never asked God for forgiveness because he's never felt he needed to?

Again, the difference between you and me. I haven't said a negative thing about a woman you mentioned, you bring up another woman (of color) just to insult her.

Why are you so angry?

 

[Mac9192]

I believe if I judged every white person on feelings they had about race in the 1970s I probably wouldn't have many dealings with white folks who were of adults in the 1970s. People change and times change.

A lot of other quotes from Biden, including eulogizing a former Klansmen who was honored late in life by the NAACP, have been misconstrued and taken out of context. Some of Trump's comments have been taken out of context, too. The problem with Trump is that his most offensive **** usually comes from his own fingertips.

I don't like the 1994 crime bill. Amazingly enough, Joe Biden has admitted that was a mistake. Have you ever heard Trump admit a mistake? Didn't he say he's never asked God for forgiveness because he's never felt he needed to?

Again, the difference between you and me. I haven't said a negative thing about a woman you mentioned, you bring up another woman (of color) just to insult her.

Why are you so angry?

Dude, I’m not angry. It is very frustrating talking to you. I can tell you have some education, but you probably work behind a desk, or possibly you’re in education. You’re all about feelings.
You made a stupid comment about Trump’s wife. Michelle Obama is an idiot, regardless of color. So is Elizabeth Warren, and the worst one, Pelosi. Harry Reid is a waste of oxygen. Juan Williams is a nice man, but politically, delusional.
You fail to see that I voted for Trump only because I wanted a change. Don’t be like Shatter and think I love Trump. He has made great decisions for our country. I don’t give a fat baby’s *** what he used to do. I actually don’t care what Biden has said. Only brought him up cause you threw out the idiotic racist remarks about Trump. Biden is just a dipshit that is senile.
You just can’t talk about the issues, because you know you don’t have a leg to stand on. So instead, you divert to making it a character issue.

 

[topps coach]

@topps coach , but I have to ask for you to stop with this sarcastic party of unity stuff. Trump has spent four years splitting this country all the way down to the ******** statements of, "we're doing great if with COVID if we ignore the blue states," and his disparaging of U.S. cities based on who their mayor or Congress person happens to be.

I've also listened to conservatives for years tell me they can't listen to this artist or watch this actor anymore because they are openly liberal.

These aren't one way streets.

Don’t think I will take your advice.When we won we talked about ways to make people’s lives better.You talk about ways to punish people who disagree with your views .Again conservatives will live with the results of the election even though we think it is crooked as hell.

 

[Jtre]

Dude, I’m not angry. It is very frustrating talking to you. I can tell you have some education, but you probably work behind a desk, or possibly you’re in education. You’re all about feelings.
You made a stupid comment about Trump’s wife. Michelle Obama is an idiot, regardless of color. So is Elizabeth Warren, and the worst one, Pelosi. Harry Reid is a waste of oxygen. Juan Williams is a nice man, but politically, delusional.
You fail to see that I voted for Trump only because I wanted a change. Don’t be like Shatter and think I love Trump. He has made great decisions for our country. I don’t give a fat baby’s *** what he used to do. I actually don’t care what Biden has said. Only brought him up cause you threw out the idiotic racist remarks about Trump. Biden is just a dipshit that is senile.
You just can’t talk about the issues, because you know you don’t have a leg to stand on. So instead, you divert to making it a character issue.

First, for clarification, I made a stupid comment about you, not Melania Trump.

Second, yes I "have some education." I appreciate your recognizing it.

Third, as I have climbed the management ladder, yes I have wound up spending more time on calls and in meetings. The bulk of my career, however, has been on the operations side, so I've logged plenty of miles over the year.

I'm going to skip the Michelle Obama and other women you hate. If they're liberal you think they're beneath you.

Why do you get so upset about comments about Trump's racism? A big part of his legacy will be his racial rhetoric.

In regard, you say things like not caring what Trump used to do. My issues are with what Trump does and who he is now. You cite great decisions he's made for this country, but there's really not a lot there. Hell I went through a list of stuff earlier that supporters voted him in on and he's accomplished none of that. You just skipped right past that.

Why do you continue to say I can't talk about issues as they pertain to Trump? Go back through this thread. I've expressed my issues with Trump beyond his racism. That is just the part that is most personal to me.

Finally, I'm sure I'm not much if anything at all like Shatter. I don't know if you love Trump or not, but your reaction to basically any criticism of him is to get excited and insult so you definitely come off as a fanboy.

 

[Jtre]

Don’t think I will take your advice.When we won we talked about ways to make people’s lives better.You talk about ways to punish people who disagree with your views .Again conservatives will live with the results of the election even though we think it is crooked as hell.

To be clear, I'm not talking about voters. When you're guy won in 2016 you had no say in what he would later do just like I, who have already expressed disagreement for the idea of black balling Trump voters, have no control on the actions of others.

That said, when you're guy won in 2016 he immediately began fostering an environment that made things worse for Muslims, Mexicans and members of the LGBTQ community. I know you guys don't care about words but his attempt at a Muslim ban, his insistence on painting Mexicans as rapists, murderers and drug dealers as well as his EO that would kick active military members out because of their being transgender were all damaging to people of this country.

Donald Trump did not take office and immediately start working on making things better for everyone in this country. He took office and kept a focus on division and doing what was best for himself.

As I have stated multiple times though, the market elevation has been good. I'm appreciative of that.

 

[topps coach]

Get your popcorn ready.There is a 234 page document by poll workers in Wayne County Michigan alleging thousands of fraudulent voting violations in this one county.Just saw a report that historically between one to two percent of mail in ballots are judged to be illegal.If this number is proven to be correct it is going to get interesting

 

[topps coach]

To be clear, I'm not talking about voters. When you're guy won in 2016 you had no say in what he would later do just like I, who have already expressed disagreement for the idea of black balling Trump voters, have no control on the actions of others.

That said, when you're guy won in 2016 he immediately began fostering an environment that made things worse for Muslims, Mexicans and members of the LGBTQ community. I know you guys don't care about words but his attempt at a Muslim ban, his insistence on painting Mexicans as rapists, murderers and drug dealers as well as his EO that would kick active military members out because of their being transgender were all damaging to people of this country.

Donald Trump did not take office and immediately start working on making things better for everyone in this country. He took office and kept a focus on division and doing what was best for himself.

As I have stated multiple times though, the market elevation has been good. I'm appreciative of that.

Again u use the usual leftist lies about his actions.He banned travel from Muslim countries that sponsored terrorism.His comments about Mexicans referred to members of organized crime groups.As far as LBQT members in the military I have never heard him mention that not saying he did not but no knowledge of it.

 

[Jtre]

Get your popcorn ready.There is a 234 page document by poll workers in Wayne County Michigan alleging thousands of fraudulent voting violations in this one county.Just saw a report that historically between one to two percent of mail in ballots are judged to be illegal.If this number is proven to be correct it is going to get interesting

I just did a few searches and I'm only finding stuff about the affidavits. Do you have a link about the 234 page document?

 

[Mac9192]

First, for clarification, I made a stupid comment about you, not Melania Trump.

Second, yes I "have some education." I appreciate your recognizing it.

Third, as I have climbed the management ladder, yes I have wound up spending more time on calls and in meetings. The bulk of my career, however, has been on the operations side, so I've logged plenty of miles over the year.

I'm going to skip the Michelle Obama and other women you hate. If they're liberal you think they're beneath you.

Why do you get so upset about comments about Trump's racism? A big part of his legacy will be his racial rhetoric.

In regard, you say things like not caring what Trump used to do. My issues are with what Trump does and who he is now. You cite great decisions he's made for this country, but there's really not a lot there. Hell I went through a list of stuff earlier that supporters voted him in on and he's accomplished none of that. You just skipped right past that.

Why do you continue to say I can't talk about issues as they pertain to Trump? Go back through this thread. I've expressed my issues with Trump beyond his racism. That is just the part that is most personal to me.

Finally, I'm sure I'm not much if anything at all like Shatter. I don't know if you love Trump or not, but your reaction to basically any criticism of him is to get excited and insult so you definitely come off as a fanboy.

Here you go again. You have to be blind, ignorant, or just plain rigid to not see that he’s made really good decisions during his term. Or a little of all 3.
You just can’t get past feelings. I am not going to lie here, liberals are dangerous. I don’t hate anyone. But I dislike the hell out of a lot of them.
You’ve been brainwashed by the media. The most racist people are liberals and the extreme far right. I’m a very fair and levelheaded person. You will disagree, I’m sure. I disagree with your thinking. It’s a horrible way to look at things.
President Trump has done an outstanding job, in my opinion. You just refuse to see it. You just can’t put your feelings to the side, a lot due to the news you watch. Nothing but liars. They salute loser celebrities like DeNiro. He is a worthless piece of ****, yet gets a pass. He shouldn’t be allowed to be in front of a tv. Yet your side applauds losers like him.

 

[durhamgolfer]

You get worse as the debate goes on. This last post of yours is horrible. No other way to put it. Your hatred and bigotry reeks. All this about Trump. What about the dumbass comments, many racists, that Biden has made during his time in politics? Crickets on him though. Had Trump said some of the ridiculous things Sleepy Joe has said, you and the media would really have a field day.
Usually, and this is true in your case, people that are actually racists, point fingers at others, calling them racists.

I didn’t mean to leave Mrs Trump out. Thanks for correcting me. Gorgeous and classy lady. Total opposite of the hag known as Mrs Obama. Talk about an idiot?

Your comment about First Lady Michelle Obama was absolutely disgraceful. It must be hard to have to accept that she is smarter than you but, man, there is simply no comparison. I now see why you like Trump so much. He makes astoundingly bigoted comments and gets away with it. His campaign commercial in 2016, in which he resurrected the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was mind-bogglingly anti-semitic. Feel free to google it if you don't know what the Protocols are.

 

[Mac9192]

Again u use the usual leftist lies about his actions.He banned travel from Muslim countries that sponsored terrorism.His comments about Mexicans referred to members of organized crime groups.As far as LBQT members in the military I have never heard him mention that not saying he did not but no knowledge of it.

Exactly. That’s what the left does. Take a portion of what’s said and air it, making him sound bad. These libs believe what lies are told. Trump was very clear in who he was talking about when it comes to nasty Mexicans, MS-13. He called them animals. He is right. It’s what the media does, and the sheep piss down their leg, believing the garbage these hacks report.

 

[Jtre]

Again u use the usual leftist lies about his actions.He banned travel from Muslim countries that sponsored terrorism.His comments about Mexicans referred to members of organized crime groups.As far as LBQT members in the military I have never heard him mention that not saying he did not but no knowledge of it.

He talked about MS-13 gang members but he didn't just talk about them. He paintbrushed Mexicans coming here without papers as bad hombres.

He talked about Muslims period. Did he talk about terrorists? Yes, but he painted Muslims with the same brush.

And yes, the transgender military thing came a few months after he took office. To be fair to him, I've always seen the siding he takes against the LGBTQ community as more about him playing to the Evangelical right than his true feelings.

 

[Mac9192]

Your comment about First Lady Michelle Obama was absolutely disgraceful. It must be hard to have to accept that she is smarter than you but, man, there is simply no comparison. I now see why you like Trump so much. He makes astoundingly bigoted comments and gets away with it. His campaign commercial in 2016, in which he resurrected the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was mind-bogglingly anti-semitic. Feel free to google it if you don't know what the Protocols are.

Haha. The resident queen has woke from her nap. Michelle Obama needs to stay out of politics. Every time she opens up her mouth, stupid **** comes out. If you step onto the stage, and spout dumb stuff, you become fair game. Woman or not.
Don’t let your panties get all wound up.

 

[GhostOf301]

Honest question. With the obvious success of pulling out of the Iranian deal. Do you think Biden should undo the policy, or continue the approach?

 

[durhamgolfer]

Haha. The resident queen has woke from her nap. Michelle Obama needs to stay out of politics. Every time she opens up her mouth, stupid **** comes out. If you step onto the stage, and spout dumb stuff, you become fair game. Woman or not.
Don’t let your panties get all wound up.

And, the protocols of the elders of Zion. Any idea what that is?
I'll leave the rest of your ridiculous and obvious attempt to piss me off alone. Not worth the time.

 

[topps coach]

I just did a few searches and I'm only finding stuff about the affidavits. Do you have a link about the 234 page document?

Kayleigh McEany just reported it on Fox.Says it will be filed tomorrow.One of claims states fifty votes were processed numerous times.Again this is one county.Could be partisan BS but it seems pretty bold to make a statement like that without proof.She claims that they have these types of information through out the country.As I said between one to two percent of mail in votes are usually kicked out.If this stat holds up it is gonna be interesting

 

[Jtre]

Honest question. With the obvious success of pulling out of the Iranian deal. Do you think Biden should undo the policy, or continue the approach?

Not sure.

 

[Jtre]

Kayleigh McEany just reported it on Fox.Says it will be filed tomorrow.One of claims states fifty votes were processed numerous times.Again this is one county.Could be partisan BS but it seems pretty bold to make a statement like that without proof.She claims that they have these types of information through out the country.As I said between one to two percent of mail in votes are usually kicked out.If this stat holds up it is gonna be interesting

I'm interested to hear about it but if the source is Kayleigh McEnany, I need to wait to see what actually gets filed.

 

[bleediteveryday30]

 

[Mac9192]

Fraud is going to get exposed. The question is gonna be, is it enough? We’re back where we were. Two camps. I have no doubt some fraud has happened. But, the media is gonna ignore it as long as they can. A damn shame that they’re so f n crooked.

Watch fox right now, interview with a poll worker

 

[Jtre]

Here you go again. You have to be blind, ignorant, or just plain rigid to not see that he’s made really good decisions during his term. Or a little of all 3.
You just can’t get past feelings. I am not going to lie here, liberals are dangerous. I don’t hate anyone. But I dislike the hell out of a lot of them.
You’ve been brainwashed by the media. The most racist people are liberals and the extreme far right. I’m a very fair and levelheaded person. You will disagree, I’m sure. I disagree with your thinking. It’s a horrible way to look at things.
President Trump has done an outstanding job, in my opinion. You just refuse to see it. You just can’t put your feelings to the side, a lot due to the news you watch. Nothing but liars. They salute loser celebrities like DeNiro. He is a worthless piece of ****, yet gets a pass. He shouldn’t be allowed to be in front of a tv. Yet your side applauds losers like him.

I disagree with you saying your fair and levelheaded because all you do stereotype people who disagree with you. If we did a checkbox test, I would come far closer to moderate or centrist than you.

I'm fair about who I call out for racism. Earlier in the year, I'm sure it's in this thread, I called out the Central Park dog walker for her attempt at weaponizing racism with the dude who had the audacity to tell her to put her dog on a leash. I actually did it after the reports of her Democrat donations.

You like to bring up things like minorities being brainwashed and unable to think for themselves. You also like to tell me about my own brainwashing and trying to educate me about who's the most racist. I don't understand why, but you do.

Let me see, didn't you mention something about having a daughter and stepdaughter?

 

[topps coach]

I'm interested to hear about it but if the source is Kayleigh McEnany, I need to wait to see what actually gets filed.

As I said cannot verify what she has but serves no purpose to lie about something that you can easily get caught on

 

[Mac9192]

I disagree with you saying your fair and levelheaded because all you do stereotype people who disagree with you. If we did a checkbox test, I would come far closer to moderate or centrist than you.

I'm fair about who I call out for racism. Earlier in the year, I'm sure it's in this thread, I called out the Central Park dog walker for her attempt at weaponizing racism with the dude who had the audacity to tell her to put her dog on a leash. I actually did it after the reports of her Democrat donations.

You like to bring up things like minorities being brainwashed and unable to think for themselves. You also like to tell me about my own brainwashing and trying to educate me about who's the most racist. I don't understand why, but you do.

Let me see, didn't you mention something about having a daughter and stepdaughter?

Liberalism is dangerous, no other way to put it. It can’t work, it isn’t a fair approach. You have been brainwashed. Not going to apologize for saying it.
Anyone that knows me knows I’m a very fair person. But I honestly think liberals are delusional. You are all feelings over fact.

What does me having daughters have to do with what we’re talking about?

 

[Jtre]

As I said cannot verify what she has but serves no purpose to lie about something that you can easily get caught on

I agree, but damn I've seen people on both sides of the aisle do it my entire life. I'm sure you can say the same thing.

 

[bleediteveryday30]

https://god.dailydot.com/dean-brown...yeWhc0_pcSz421GFkPkIKr0G_qGsyIS3HrgSr2QG1DTco

 

[Jtre]

Liberalism is dangerous, no other way to put it. It can’t work, it isn’t a fair approach. You have been brainwashed. Not going to apologize for saying it.
Anyone that knows me knows I’m a very fair person. But I honestly think liberals are delusional. You are all feelings over fact.

What does me having daughters have to do with what we’re talking about?

I don't want you to apologize for saying it. You're entitled to your opinion. We've reached the point in conversation where you tell me that all your friends think you're a reasonable guy. I'm glad of that and there is nothing I can do to argue that, so we'll probably leave things there.

There's a reason I asked about your daughter/stepdaughter. I wasn't trying to say no ******** like Shatter did the other night. It was actually a legit question for a legit reason.

 

[bleediteveryday30]

 

[Mac9192]

I don't want you to apologize for saying it. You're entitled to your opinion. We've reached the point in conversation where you tell me that all your friends think you're a reasonable guy. I'm glad of that and there is nothing I can do to argue that, so we'll probably leave things there.

There's a reason I asked about your daughter/stepdaughter. I wasn't trying to say no ******** like Shatter did the other night. It was actually a legit question for a legit reason.

A little skeptical, but ask your question.

 

[Jtre]

https://god.dailydot.com/dean-brown...yeWhc0_pcSz421GFkPkIKr0G_qGsyIS3HrgSr2QG1DTco

Damn. Just, damn.

 

[Jtre]

A little skeptical, but ask your question.

Did you say you had a stepdaughter?

 

[GhostOf301]

Fraud is going to get exposed. The question is gonna be, is it enough? We’re back where we were. Two camps. I have no doubt some fraud has happened. But, the media is gonna ignore it as long as they can. A damn shame that they’re so f n crooked.

Watch fox right now, interview with a poll worker

I am throwing in the towel on the fraud allegations until someone not named Hannity or Giuliani presents the evidence. Not because I don't think it is happening, but because it won't move the needle. Right now, I am just happy that we hold the senate and are in good position to take back the house in 2022.

 

[GhostOf301]

https://god.dailydot.com/dean-brown...yeWhc0_pcSz421GFkPkIKr0G_qGsyIS3HrgSr2QG1DTco

I like his response a lot better than "I was hacked". But yeah, he's a dumbass.

 

[GhostOf301]

Did you say you had a stepdaughter?

Easy now.

 

[Mac9192]

Did you say you had a stepdaughter?

Why do you ask

 

[durhamgolfer]

As I said cannot verify what she has but serves no purpose to lie about something that you can easily get caught on

seriously? have you not been watching what has been going on for the last four years? No one in the Trump Administration has any respect for the truth. They just come up with alternate facts.

 

[Mac9192]

I am throwing in the towel on the fraud allegations until someone not named Hannity or Giuliani presents the evidence. Not because I don't think it is happening, but because it won't move the needle. Right now, I am just happy that we hold the senate and are in good position to take back the house in 2022.

Agree. I think there is, but like I have said, not sure it’s enough to change who’s getting sworn in. By the slim chance there is, it’s gonna get real nasty out here.

 

[Mac9192]

seriously? have you not been watching what has been going on for the last four years? No one in the Trump Administration has any respect for the truth. They just come up with alternate facts.

I’m positive you’re a lady. I also think you have posted on this site for a while. You post just like her. Same vile, same smug posting style.
You’re @SDevada.

 

[topps coach]

seriously? have you not been watching what has been going on for the last four years? No one in the Trump Administration has any respect for the truth. They just come up with alternate facts.

Yeah been watching Democrats lie for the last four years .How many times has Schiff been on CNN saying he had proof of Trumps collusion and then nothing.He is as delusional as you are

 

[Jtre]

Why do you ask

I'll take that as a yes. I'm trying to find a relatable area.

First, big ups on doing that. I thought I remembered you saying something about raising a stepdaughter, that is an admirable thing and it's the type of thing that runs a lot of guys away from relationship.

Second, I don't have a stepdaughter. Truthfully, except for a brief period of dating a girl with a child years ago, I have no experience being in a real relationship where I was around a women's child, let alone having to raise a child that belongs to somebody else. I imagine there can be challenges that I cannot come close to relating to.

Because of that I would never tell you how to navigate those waters or tell you how to feel about your wife, the child or her father.

That's because I'm a reasonable and (try to be) respectful guy.

I would ask that you treat racism the same way. As I've said, you've never been on the business end of racism so it's damn insulting for you to attempt to educate on the subject.

I'm going to repeat something I said the other night. You've mentioned kids enough on the board that it stuck out so I've no doubt you're a good father.