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As I said if u voted for Trump you supported lies,hate etc .That is the party of unity espoused by someone who had said she was never proud of America good example of someone wanting to end division and strife

You're doing to her what you claim I've done to Mac. Apparently he doesn't think all minorities think people are racist simply because they are white Republicans like I interpreted it but just the minorities who have been brainwashed by liberals think people are racist just because they are white Republicans.

After all, Michelle didn't say all of y'all, but rather just tens of millions.

As for her quote that you skewered, "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country." That's not the same as saying she was never proud of America in any way. But think about it like this: She's a 56 year-old Black woman who went from the Southside of Chicago to the Princeton and Harvard. You don't think she saw and heard some **** along that road that might not quite give her the same warm and fuzzy feeling you get every time you think about America. I know what I have seen and encountered so I know her experience is worse.

Let's move to another topic. Does anyone think the North Carolina race is fixed?
 

Mac9192

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I just think if you are going to complain about how Trump and Mac are misquoted, you should not commit the same sin. Her quote is different from yours. I realize the differences are subtle but they are differences and the tenor or her tweet is that it is incumbent upon those of us who rejected the status quo to try to reach out so we can all find common ground. In other words, she is advocating unity.
Unity? Where has this cry for unity been for the last few years? GTFO with this garbage. You're as sad as out liberals on tv. Your party is nothing but a bunch of liars and crooks. Biden half the time thinks Unity is a city.
So read this post and come to what conclusion I'm making.
 

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Unity? Where has this cry for unity been for the last few years? GTFO with this garbage. You're as sad as out liberals on tv. Your party is nothing but a bunch of liars and crooks. Biden half the time thinks Unity is a city.
So read this post and come to what conclusion I'm making.

The President for the past four years built his political brand on peddling the ******** theory that her husband, the first Black person ever elected U.S. President, wasn't really an American. Are you surprised she didn't come out speaking highly about Donald Trump?

Hell you despise liberals and won't say anything nice about them, but I can't imagine one has ever wronged you in such a personal way as Trump did her. It's strange you would find fault with her for that.
 

Mac9192

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The President for the past four years built his political brand on peddling the ******** theory that her husband, the first Black person ever elected U.S. President, wasn't really an American. Are you surprised she didn't come out speaking highly about Donald Trump?

Hell you despise liberals and won't say anything nice about them, but I can't imagine one has ever wronged you in such a personal way as Trump did her. It's strange you would find fault with her for that.
Here you go again. Have I not said I don't like everything about Trump? I've defended the job he's done as President, not the manner in how he's conducted himself. But, because he said some things he shouldn't have, it's ok for her too? Two wrongs don't make a right. She stepped into the ring, so she became fair game. Woman or not. She's not the only one. Robert DeNiro is one pathetic individual too. Those that applaud him aren't any better.

I just showed my ability to be equal opportunity in my criticism. One black woman, one white man. What do they have in common? Both LIBERALS
 

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Democrats pushing out of state people to temporarily move to GA to vote in Senate race.Before you ask for link Google the Chris Cuimo show,.example of far they will go to win and Republicans have no reason to question the election
 

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Democrats pushing out of state people to temporarily move to GA to vote in Senate race.Before you ask for link Google the Chris Cuimo show,.example of far they will go to win and Republicans have no reason to question the election
that is absolutely preposterous. and I did just google Chris Cuomo and got nothing resembling what you are talking about. So how about that link?
 

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Unity? Where has this cry for unity been for the last few years? GTFO with this garbage. You're as sad as out liberals on tv. Your party is nothing but a bunch of liars and crooks. Biden half the time thinks Unity is a city.
So read this post and come to what conclusion I'm making.
Are you serious with that crap? Trump sided with white supremacists, said that the covid numbers were not that bad if you removed the blue states and took every opportunity to insult people who disagreed with him and you want to know where the cry for unity has been the last few years? I am having trouble believing your posts are serious. Seems more like you might have decided to be a parody poster. It is the only thing that makes sense.
 

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that is absolutely preposterous. and I did just google Chris Cuomo and got nothing resembling what you are talking about. So how about that link?
You are so delusional it just showed it on his tv show from last night.You will do anything to deflect from anything that doesn’t support your lunatic ideas.
 

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Are you serious with that crap? Trump sided with white supremacists, said that the covid numbers were not that bad if you removed the blue states and took every opportunity to insult people who disagreed with him and you want to know where the cry for unity has been the last few years? I am having trouble believing your posts are serious. Seems more like you might have decided to be a parody poster. It is the only thing that makes sense.
Trump sided with white supremacists as always you take out the part before and after he denounced the suptemcists . It is one of two things.You are a congenital liar or absolutely stupid
 

Mac9192

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Trump sided with white supremacists as always you take out the part before and after he denounced the suptemcists . It is one of two things.You are a congenital liar or absolutely stupid
Yeah, all you have to do is YouTube Trump’s comments from right after the incident, and you’ll see what he actually said. He flat condemned the bunch. But, @durhamgolfer is just like the rest of the liberals. They only see what the stations they watch televise. A very pathetic act by these fake news channels.

As far as Durham being either a liar or stupid? Can I choose both?
 

Mac9192

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Tucker Carlson just said Pew did a study and in 2012, close to 3 million people were registered in multiple states. Over 2 million dead people were still registered voters.
So far this election, he just put up on the screen 26 people that voted by mail. They are all dead.
No fraud at all, huh?
 

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Tucker Carlson just said Pew did a study and in 2012, close to 3 million people were registered in multiple states. Over 2 million dead people were still registered voters.
So far this election, he just put up on the screen 26 people that voted by mail. They are all dead.
No fraud at all, huh?
If they know of that many how many more are gonna slip thru? Regardless of what Democrats say mail in voting is totally compromised
 

Mac9192

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If they know of that many how many more are gonna slip thru? Regardless of what Democrats say mail in voting is totally compromised
The Establishment is going to do all they can though to not let Trump expose this. They wanted mass mail in voting. Harder to keep it legit. Add to it the corrupt cities counting these votes.
What could go wrong?
 

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Election officials all over the country dem and rep refute the fraud being implied
- NYT

What's funny is there is clear and obvious fraud. But it will never be proven enough to overturn the election. For some reason the narrative isn't, yeah there's fraud just like every election in American history. It's, there is no evidence of fraud. The question is, why? When your team has the support of maybe the most influential entity in our lives, (the media) it's easy to believe you're winning when you're not. But yeah, people who believe that Joe Biden got more votes than any candidate in the history of our country are going to believe that there was no fraud.
 

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Tucker Carlson just said Pew did a study and in 2012, close to 3 million people were registered in multiple states. Over 2 million dead people were still registered voters.
So far this election, he just put up on the screen 26 people that voted by mail. They are all dead.
No fraud at all, huh?
Imagine believing Tucker Carlson. The man who was sued and won because "the general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

 
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What's funny is there is clear and obvious fraud. But it will never be proven enough to overturn the election. For some reason the narrative isn't, yeah there's fraud just like every election in American history. It's, there is no evidence of fraud. The question is, why? When your team has the support of maybe the most influential entity in our lives, (the media) it's easy to believe you're winning when you're not. But yeah, people who believe that Joe Biden got more votes than any candidate in the history of our country are going to believe that there was no fraud.
I don't think anyone would claim that there's never been fraud or isn't some attempted fraud almost every election. In low turnout elections over 100 million people turn out to vote. Obviously some of those people are gonna try to cheat someway. That's why we have safeguards against that, and elections are handled at the local level, making widespread, calculated voter fraud almost impossible.

But don't take it from me, take it from a poll worker. https://www.kxan.com/news/us-politi...en-a-single-ballot-michigan-poll-worker-says/
 

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I don't think anyone would claim that there's never been fraud or isn't some attempted fraud almost every election. In low turnout elections over 100 million people turn out to vote. Obviously some of those people are gonna try to cheat someway. That's why we have safeguards against that, and elections are handled at the local level, making widespread, calculated voter fraud almost impossible.

But don't take it from me, take it from a poll worker. https://www.kxan.com/news/us-politi...en-a-single-ballot-michigan-poll-worker-says/

I know voting fraud occurs, but this is truly a refreshing story. It highlights the dedication of our election workers, and the stringent safeguards in place.

OFC
 

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I know voting fraud occurs, but this is truly a refreshing story. It highlights the dedication of our election workers, and the stringent safeguards in place.

OFC
Absolutely. We should've done something as a country for the poll workers this year, even just a simple acknowledgment. They fought through a lot more crap than normal to get it done this year and they did.
 

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Tucker Carlson just said Pew did a study and in 2012, close to 3 million people were registered in multiple states. Over 2 million dead people were still registered voters.
So far this election, he just put up on the screen 26 people that voted by mail. They are all dead.
No fraud at all, huh?
That study was not about voter fraud, although a number of Republicans claiming wide spread voter fraud insisted that it was. It was about the fact that the voter registration system in this country is antiquated and therefore so incredibly inefficient that it costs the tax payers a lot of money. It made the point that when a voter moves to another state, there is no requirement that the voter notify the state he/she moved from to remove him/her from the voting roles. I know that when my father died, I had his mail forwarded to me. When I went to vote, since we have the same last name, his name was right above mine.
It remained there for three years before the voter roles caught up with the fact that he was dead. I did not vote twice. In fact, commissions that are tasked with discovered voter fraud all have been unable to substantiate claims of wide spread voter fraud. Why? Because there is none. Here is a link to the Pew study.
 
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According to Bill O’Reilly, the only way Trump can win is by Supreme Court ruling that no votes accepted after election night.
He said that’s why Justice Alito ordered ballots after to be segregated in PA.
Proving the massive fraud that is going on is more than an uphill battle for Trump, but he has a case at least in one state.
 

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- NYT

What's funny is there is clear and obvious fraud. But it will never be proven enough to overturn the election. For some reason the narrative isn't, yeah there's fraud just like every election in American history. It's, there is no evidence of fraud. The question is, why? When your team has the support of maybe the most influential entity in our lives, (the media) it's easy to believe you're winning when you're not. But yeah, people who believe that Joe Biden got more votes than any candidate in the history of our country are going to believe that there was no fraud.

yeah...NYT and AP.............Whoever had the most previously was there widespread coordinated fraud across states, cities, counties, huge amounts of people, w/o the other side whose watching just miss it all......again McConnell and Graham won, Fraud Gate is a bust!!!!......also Joe Biden won and won so BIGLY because actual people that aren't fanboys were done with this 4 year circus sideshow monumental embarrassing blight, that Jan 20, 2021 cant get here fast enough....when Trump eeked out his win, it was talked up as a MANDATE by the voters, no this was a MANDATE....Biden more than doubled the penn/wisky/mich margain of 2016.....over 5 million people thought otherwise, so again Trump is 0-2 in the popular vote by over 8 million votes
 

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- NYT

What's funny is there is clear and obvious fraud. But it will never be proven enough to overturn the election. For some reason the narrative isn't, yeah there's fraud just like every election in American history. It's, there is no evidence of fraud. The question is, why? When your team has the support of maybe the most influential entity in our lives, (the media) it's easy to believe you're winning when you're not. But yeah, people who believe that Joe Biden got more votes than any candidate in the history of our country are going to believe that there was no fraud.

If you find it impossible to believe Biden received more votes than anyone in history, do you then find it hard to believe Trump also did? This is why I asked earlier if anyone thought there was widespread fraud in Texas. Biden secured enough votes in Texas this year to have won that state by 600,000 votes in 2016. Biden lost, so know one is talking about Texas.

Roughly 2 million more Texans voted for Donald Trump this year than did for George W Bush in 2000; roughly 1 million more than did for him in 2004.

More Texans voted for Donald Trump this year than did for George HW Bush in 1988 and 1992 combined.

Does that sound like it makes sense?

It does when you consider that for the first time in American history you had a president who turned politics into pop culture and promoted all day long to 87 million Twitter followers and who knows how many millions more who read his tweets but don't follow him.

This president, because of the nature of some many topics he would hit on and the over-the-top pro wrestling way he would hit on them, created a visceral such a visceral reaction in people that more Texans voted this year PRIOR to election day than had ever voted in that state before.

It's easy to say fraud, look at how many people voted for Joe Biden. It's gets a lot harder to stick with that narrative when you start looking at other states no one is focused on.
 

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According to Bill O’Reilly, the only way Trump can win is by Supreme Court ruling that no votes accepted after election night.
He said that’s why Justice Alito ordered ballots after to be segregated in PA.
Proving the massive fraud that is going on is more than an uphill battle for Trump, but he has a case at least in one state.
Those votes were already being segregated and there are no where near enough to push the state to Trump.
 

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They truly did deal with the utmost pressure in perhaps the most pivotal election in our lifetime. OFC
Where I was, everyone was thanking the poll workers as we moved from station to station. They then thanks us for voting. I always get a bit emotional when I vote. I think it is awesome that we get a say in who runs our country. But this time, I was really proud of what was going on at my polling station.
 
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According to Bill O’Reilly, the only way Trump can win is by Supreme Court ruling that no votes accepted after election night.
He said that’s why Justice Alito ordered ballots after to be segregated in PA.
Proving the massive fraud that is going on is more than an uphill battle for Trump, but he has a case at least in one state.
So the only way Trump can win is the SC cheating for him. Makes one wonder why oh why they put filling Ginsburg's seat before getting a stimulus deal done. And elected perhaps the least qualified candidate possible to it.
 
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Mac9192

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Those votes were already being segregated and there are no where near enough to push the state to Trump.
So the only way Trump can win is the SC cheating for him. Makes one wonder why oh why they put filling Ginsburg's seat before getting a stimulus deal done. And elected perhaps the least qualified candidate possible to it.
durham, you do realize Trump was winning big on the 4th, don't you? Biden took the lead over the next 5 days. Trump was up over 660,000 votes on the 4th, then on the 9th, Biden was up 45,700. I think you need to reconsider what you just said. By my math and calculations, if the ruling is held that voting not counted after election night, then Trump wins PA.

shatter, you have to be the dumbest person on this board. You should be on an ANTIFA poster.
 

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So the only way Trump can win is the SC cheating for him. Makes one wonder why oh why they put filling Ginsburg's seat before getting a stimulus deal done. And elected perhaps the least qualified candidate possible to it.

I hope that this post is taken in the same context as ones mentioning other women by some posters. Lets wait and see.
 

Mac9192

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If you find it impossible to believe Biden received more votes than anyone in history, do you then find it hard to believe Trump also did? This is why I asked earlier if anyone thought there was widespread fraud in Texas. Biden secured enough votes in Texas this year to have won that state by 600,000 votes in 2016. Biden lost, so know one is talking about Texas.

Roughly 2 million more Texans voted for Donald Trump this year than did for George W Bush in 2000; roughly 1 million more than did for him in 2004.

More Texans voted for Donald Trump this year than did for George HW Bush in 1988 and 1992 combined.

Does that sound like it makes sense?

It does when you consider that for the first time in American history you had a president who turned politics into pop culture and promoted all day long to 87 million Twitter followers and who knows how many millions more who read his tweets but don't follow him.

This president, because of the nature of some many topics he would hit on and the over-the-top pro wrestling way he would hit on them, created a visceral such a visceral reaction in people that more Texans voted this year PRIOR to election day than had ever voted in that state before.

It's easy to say fraud, look at how many people voted for Joe Biden. It's gets a lot harder to stick with that narrative when you start looking at other states no one is focused on.
You're comparing apples to oranges. How many votes did Trump get by mail in compared to Biden? Trump benefits more from walking in than Biden. This was a cunning plan by the left. Trump had the lead in PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, NC, Georgia, and Nevada as of Nov 4th. The only state he didn't was Arizona.

It's beyond comical how you all refuse to see who benefited where in this election.
 

Jtre

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durham, you do realize Trump was winning big on the 4th, don't you? Biden took the lead over the next 5 days. Trump was up over 660,000 votes on the 4th, then on the 9th, Biden was up 45,700. I think you need to reconsider what you just said. By my math and calculations, if the ruling is held that voting not counted after election night, then Trump wins PA.

shatter, you have to be the dumbest person on this board. You should be on an ANTIFA poster.

I'd just like to point out that being received after November 3rd and counted after November 3rd are not the same thing, therefore it's not as easy as looking at the score at 11:59 on November 3rd.
 

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durham, you do realize Trump was winning big on the 4th, don't you? Biden took the lead over the next 5 days. Trump was up over 660,000 votes on the 4th, then on the 9th, Biden was up 45,700. I think you need to reconsider what you just said. By my math and calculations, if the ruling is held that voting not counted after election night, then Trump wins PA.

shatter, you have to be the dumbest person on this board. You should be on an ANTIFA poster.

nov. 4th votes were tallied first????
 

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durham, you do realize Trump was winning big on the 4th, don't you? Biden took the lead over the next 5 days. Trump was up over 660,000 votes on the 4th, then on the 9th, Biden was up 45,700. I think you need to reconsider what you just said. By my math and calculations, if the ruling is held that voting not counted after election night, then Trump wins PA.

shatter, you have to be the dumbest person on this board. You should be on an ANTIFA poster.
Mac, if you're not a troll, which I don't think you are you truly are a fascinating person. You take 2 +2 and somehow get 5. You are incapable of any sort of self-reflection or introspection. You apparently aren't racist or sexist, you simply hate anyone who is a Liberal. Especially liberal women and minorities, as evidenced by your obsession with both. When presented with evidence to the contrary of what your president is saying you simply ignore it and any news station that reports on said evidence as "fake news" while soaking information like a sponge from someone who has been outed in court by his own news network as someone who cannot be taken seriously and plays fast and loose with the truth.

Just truly, again, fascinating.
 
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You're comparing apples to oranges. How many votes did Trump get by mail in compared to Biden? Trump benefits more from walking in than Biden. This was a cunning plan by the left. Trump had the lead in PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, NC, Georgia, and Nevada as of Nov 4th. The only state he didn't was Arizona.

It's beyond comical how you all refuse to see who benefited where in this election.

why do you keep talking about Trump and mail ins...HE TOLD YALL NOT TO DO IT,AND YALL LISTENED FOR THE MOST PART....of course he would have leads going in because same day was tallied first....Biden already had numbers in the bank waiting for their turn to be tallied
 

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I hope that this post is taken in the same context as ones mentioning other women by some posters. Lets wait and see.

Well, he didn't call her a ho, tramp, or hag so it's not near as foul, but yeah I don't know why he would talk about how unqualified she was. The biggest knock on her is the timing not really anything else. Just like @Mac9192 bringing up women for the sole purpose of bashing them, that's sorta what that post was, too.

To be fair, I haven't seen @Shatterthesky22 go after other women like that, though.
 

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You libs won't even see the facts concerning PA. When voting ended on election night there, Trump was up BIG. Like real big. The statement is, now read carefully here, that it's possible that a ruling could come in saying ANY votes after WILL NOT count.
No matter how you dice it, Trump would be the winner of PA then. I did not say he would be President. I said he would win that state. He would have to win other states too. If not, Sleepy Joe is the next President.

This shouldn't be hard to grasp. Do the math.