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The circus? The media thinks they're crazy, and were demanding to know the truth. This is only what I've heard, and I'm not saying it to be true. They have the information. Damaging and huge. The kind of information that is a game changer and mind blowing. So big, they can't just show their hand right now, and they are protecting the people that say they will testify. But, what I'm hearing is some very powerful people will get taking down. These people are said to be behind this election. I do believe in the Establishment, but I find it hard to think they will get taken down. Dominion servers seized? This is major conspiracy talk. If Trump and his team are proven to be 100% wrong, they won't be able to get a job cleaning an Interstate Rest Stop bathroom.

Remember in 16, Trump was the only person that thought he would beat Clinton. No one else did. Supposedly, he knew they would try to cheat then, but the left underestimated the base that voted for him. The story goes that he knew they would try it again this election, and planned ahead. What the left didn't prepare for was the massive amount they would be behind on election night.
I would suggest you've lost it but, that would infer that you ever had it to lose.
 
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The only thing I know to tell you is we have to wait and see. You are expecting to know now, as does our inept media. The Trump team says they have damaging info, and proof. I'm saying if this is what I've heard, you can't just say it now. You also see things way, way different than I do. You see some of the media as good, I see them as sheep. I gave you a great example, and a factual one at that. The riots. Organized, and calculated. As factual as knowing tomorrow is Saturday. I'm not sure you will believe it, even if Trump does have proof.

I know what I'm saying sounds crazy. You go off of the media, AP... and think they tell the truth, and that Trump is reaching, being an angry, sore loser. If what I've heard is true, our socks are getting blown off.
Where is the proof these riots were planned? Serious question here, do you happen to peruse 4chan and/or 8chan? Because you are seriously dipping into some Qanon ****.
 
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Remember in 16, Trump was the only person that thought he would beat Clinton. No one else did. Supposedly, he knew they would try to cheat then, but the left underestimated the base that voted for him. The story goes that he knew they would try it again this election, and planned ahead. What the left didn't prepare for was the massive amount they would be behind on election night.

This makes sense to you?

The Democrats and everyone else underestimated Trump and thought he had no chance to win. Trump knew the Democrats concocted a plan to cheat him out of the election but they decided not to go through with it because they thought he stood no chance. But of course they concocted this massive plan even though he had no chance.

Recognizing the error of their ways, they held the plan in their back pocket for four years (without anyone ever leaking anything) only to roll it out in 2020 because they knew a more likeable male candidate had no chance running against a president with a historically-low approval rating who's lack of leadership ability had been heavily exposed in the 6 months leading up to the election.

Despite the four year planning process to cheat, they were shocked at the margins in certain states, the Democrats rolled out a second plan to make damn sure Trump didn't win.

But all this started because they developed a historic plan to cheat in 2016, that they didn't use, to beat a candidate that they thought had no chance to win.

Remember, everything I just typed was what you typed (exception being the part about Biden likability and gender). After reading that back, does this really make any sense?
 
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This makes sense to you?

The Democrats and everyone else underestimated Trump and thought he had no chance to win. Trump knew the Democrats concocted a plan to cheat him out of the election but they decided not to go through with it because they thought he stood no chance. But of course they concocted this massive plan even though he had no chance.

Recognizing the error of their ways, they held the plan in their back pocket for four years (without anyone ever leaking anything) only to roll it out in 2020 because they knew a more likeable male candidate had no chance running against a president with a historically-low approval rating who's lack of leadership ability had been heavily exposed in the 6 months leading up to the election.

Despite the four year planning process to cheat, they were shocked at the margins in certain states, the Democrats rolled out a second plan to make damn sure Trump didn't win.

But all this started because they developed a historic plan to cheat in 2016, that they didn't use, to beat a candidate that they thought had no chance to win.

Remember, everything I just typed was what you typed (exception being the part about Biden likability and gender). After reading that back, does this really make any sense?
What part of that DOESNT make sense to you Jtre? I'll gladly explain if you need help.
 

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This makes sense to you?

The Democrats and everyone else underestimated Trump and thought he had no chance to win. Trump knew the Democrats concocted a plan to cheat him out of the election but they decided not to go through with it because they thought he stood no chance. But of course they concocted this massive plan even though he had no chance.

Recognizing the error of their ways, they held the plan in their back pocket for four years (without anyone ever leaking anything) only to roll it out in 2020 because they knew a more likeable male candidate had no chance running against a president with a historically-low approval rating who's lack of leadership ability had been heavily exposed in the 6 months leading up to the election.

Despite the four year planning process to cheat, they were shocked at the margins in certain states, the Democrats rolled out a second plan to make damn sure Trump didn't win.

But all this started because they developed a historic plan to cheat in 2016, that they didn't use, to beat a candidate that they thought had no chance to win.

Remember, everything I just typed was what you typed (exception being the part about Biden likability and gender). After reading that back, does this really make any sense?
Here you go, again. In your first paragraph is a huge mistake. I never said they concoted a massive plan even though he had no chance in 16. I think cheating has always been in elections. Voting machines are said to be unreliable, even by democrats. I showed you where a Michigan professor did a you tube video in 18 displaying how it can be done. Here's how it was, and I was clear. They didn't think Trump would win though. No one but Trump said he would win. They didn't think they needed to do major cheating. Hilary was the next anointed one. The establishment underestimated middle america, or what ever you choose to call them. Bigots, racists, whatever floats your boat.

What I went on to say is after he beat Hilary, they planned on that not happening again. So, they devised a plan. Massive mail in voting. Chaos. But, they didn't think they would be behind on election night like they were, so that's why voting was stopped. So they could regroup. The really dicey part, and here's where the conspiracy talk gets deeper, is Trump knew this all along. **And planned accordingly.** This part right there with the asterisks is where Trump supposedly has the proof.
 

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Some of you have more faith in our government than I do. About 15 years ago I had a guy tell me stuff about some World Order, or group of elites calling shots. I thought he was crazy. I’m not so sure anymore.
Same group of people sold that Oswald was the only gunman.

If some of you would open your eyes, you’d see how corrupt things are. The media has just led you to think Trump is the blame.
The riots? Organized. So it would look like Trump has caused all this. The truth is, he wasn’t supposed to beat the next anointed one in 2016. They were trying to get him out of office before he ever got to The Office!
Biden is just a useless puppet so they can get things back like they want.

You are comparing what most ballistics experts, snipers and marksmen view as impossible shots, along with the whole Jack Ruby jumping out of the shadows to shoot Oswald, with an idea that the Democrats orchestrated the riots which stemmed out of a combination of the murders of Ahmad Arbery, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and Breonna Taylor. This is insane.

You've mentioned your eyes getting opened about 4 or 5 years ago. In this post you even mentioned that conspiracy theories were introduced to you about 15 years ago but you weren't trying to hear about them.

Did something traumatic happen to you in the past 5-7 years?
 
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You are comparing what most ballistics experts, snipers and marksmen view as impossible shots, along with the whole Jack Ruby jumping out of the shadows to shoot Oswald, with an idea that the Democrats orchestrated the riots which stemmed out of a combination of the murders of Ahmad Arbery, George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks and Breonna Taylor. This is insane.

You've mentioned your eyes getting opened about 4 or 5 years ago. In this post you even mentioned that conspiracy theories were introduced to you about 15 years ago but you weren't trying to hear about them.

Did something traumatic happen to you in the past 5-7 years?
Where did I say Democrats orchestrated the riots? I said Establishment. What I have said is that democrat leaders did nothing to stop the riots. You are very clever in twisting things just enough. I've been very clear that the Establishment isn't exclusive to democrats.

I've always enjoyed listening to conspiracy theories. Didn't say I believe them all. What I said was, I thought the guy was crazy 15 years ago. I didn't think people were as evil as he described. Now, yes I do see things differently, and yes, we have some powerful people that are rotten to the core. You don't want to see it, unless it's a Republican, then you think they're evil. That's evident with Trump. The man is at fault for everything, and he has only been in politics for 4 years. Read that line again, and let it soak in. If you would open your eyes, and get republicans and white people out of your mind a little, you might learn a little more. Take some of your race baiting and use it where it would matter.
 

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Here you go, again. In your first paragraph is a huge mistake. I never said they concoted a massive plan even though he had no chance in 16. I think cheating has always been in elections. Voting machines are said to be unreliable, even by democrats. I showed you where a Michigan professor did a you tube video in 18 displaying how it can be done. Here's how it was, and I was clear. They didn't think Trump would win though. No one but Trump said he would win. They didn't think they needed to do major cheating. Hilary was the next anointed one. The establishment underestimated middle america, or what ever you choose to call them. Bigots, racists, whatever floats your boat.

What I went on to say is after he beat Hilary, they planned on that not happening again. So, they devised a plan. Massive mail in voting. Chaos. But, they didn't think they would be behind on election night like they were, so that's why voting was stopped. So they could regroup. The really dicey part, and here's where the conspiracy talk gets deeper, is Trump knew this all along. **And planned accordingly.** This part right there with the asterisks is where Trump supposedly has the proof.

OK, apparently I misread what you wrote. So you're saying what you actually wrote is that Trump said the ESTABLISHMENT was going to fix the 2016 election, but they actually didn't, which is why he won. So that shows he was either paranoid or just plain wrong about election-rigging.

Fast forward to 2020, this time he's right.

As for you other post about the ESTABLISHMENT orchestrating the riots, pushing mail-in votes, etc. and, well, I just don't know what to say. I'm trying to wrap my head around all of it. I'm certain it all sounds reasonable to you when you say it out loud. I just can't comprehend that all of those things seem more reasonable to you than a guy with terrible approval numbers who won an election because he won three historically Democratic states in 2016 (over a woman people hate!) by a combined 77000 votes simply losing an election because the other guy got more votes and more electoral votes.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't think Lee Harvey Oswald acted one. I also think you should check out some of the hip hop illuminati videos I mentioned the other day.
 
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OK, apparently I misread what you wrote. So you're saying what you actually wrote is that Trump said the ESTABLISHMENT was going to fix the 2016 election, but they actually didn't, which is why he won. So that shows he was either paranoid or just plain wrong about election-rigging.

Fast forward to 2020, this time he's right.

As for you other post about the ESTABLISHMENT orchestrating the riots, pushing mail-in votes, etc. and, well, I just don't know what to say. I'm trying to wrap my head around all of it. I'm certain it all sounds reasonable to you when you say it out loud. I just can't comprehend that all of those things seem more reasonable to you than a guy with terrible approval numbers who won an election because he won three historically Democratic states in 2016 (over a woman people hate!) by a combined 77000 votes simply losing an election because the other guy got more votes and more electoral votes.

If it makes you feel any better, I don't think Lee Harvey Oswald acted one. I also think you should check out some of the hip hop illuminati videos I mentioned the other day.
It is a lot to digest. On the 16 election, maybe I wasn’t clear enough. I think the Establishment thought it would be a cakewalk for Hilary. Most everybody was stunned. I know I was.
This election is a different story. The Establishment did everything they could to ensure Trump would lose. But, what I’ve heard is that Trump knew they were going to try everything too.

If you can believe this, I could say more, but I’ll come off looking even more crazy to you than I do. The other info is off the chart.
 
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Here in California our IDs were not checked at the drop off nor did we request the ballots that arrived in our mailbox.

Democrats went to court leading up to the Election to allow areas to loosen guidelines. For example what I mentioned above and allowing people to drop off multiple ballots in some areas. No signatures even.

Democrats politicized Covid-19 to derail Trump's economy and make the argument for needing widespread Mail In ballots. Then there was an all out blitz for registering and voting. For example Vote messagery on NFL football fields.

None of this is illegal. A combination of circumstance and individuals willing to do whatever it takes to defeat the projection of Adolf Hitler in their eyes. Did I mention how involved Media and Big Tech were? China's currency (yuan) had its worst fall in years when Trump was forecasted to win late into the evening. This was one hell of a concentrated effort. I tip my hat they seem to have succeeded.
 
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Here in California our IDs were not checked at the drop off nor did we request the ballots that arrived in our mailbox.

Democrats went to court leading up to the Election to allow areas to loosen guidelines. For example what I mentioned above and allowing people to drop off multiple ballots in some areas. No signatures even.

Democrats politicized Covid-19 to derail Trump's economy and make the argument for needing widespread Mail In ballots. Then there was an all out blitz for registering and voting. For example Vote messagery on NFL football fields.

None of this is illegal. A combination of circumstance and individuals willing to do whatever it takes to defeat the projection of Adolf Hitler in their eyes. Did I mention how involved Media and Big Tech were? China's currency (yuan) had its worst fall in years when Trump was forecasted to win late into the evening. This was one hell of a concentrated effort. I tip my hat they seem to have succeeded.
Really awful of the Democrats to get more people registered and make it easier to vote during a pandemic. How will democracy survive?
 

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Really awful of the Democrats to get more people registered and make it easier to vote during a pandemic. How will democracy survive?
Nothing wrong with more people registered and voting.The problem is that if you don’t know who is voting and standards were lowered Democracy can be threatened.Your candidate said he assembled the great elections fraud ever before the election and it appears he was right.The upcoming SCOTUS cases probably will not overthrow the election but but will put in place standards that assure people in the future will have confidence that it will be a honest election
 

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Nothing wrong with more people registered and voting.The problem is that if you don’t know who is voting and standards were lowered Democracy can be threatened.Your candidate said he assembled the great elections fraud ever before the election and it appears he was right.The upcoming SCOTUS cases probably will not overthrow the election but but will put in place standards that assure people in the future will have confidence that it will be a honest election

Apparently, among all the affidavits that got thrown out in Michigan, the one that supposedly showed more votes than voters in precincts actually mixed up Minnesota and Michigan precincts. That particular affidavit was filed by someone from Texas and not actually checked for validity by the lawyers before being filed. Once a Michigan judge saw the Minnesota precincts listed as Michigan precincts, the judge tossed it.

To clarify, by mixed up I mean actually listed the Minnesota precinct by name and registered voter only to compare the actual votes from the corresponding numerical precinct in Michigan. This is what led to the perception over precinct overages.

Of course Giuliani and the rest of the legal team should have known that when they held their press conference and directed media members to read the affidavits.
 
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Apparently, among all the affidavits that got thrown out in Michigan, the one that supposedly showed more votes than voters in precincts actually mixed up Minnesota and Michigan precincts. That particular affidavit was filed by someone from Texas and not actually checked for validity by the lawyers before being filed. Once a Michigan judge saw the Minnesota precincts listed as Michigan precincts, the judge tossed it.

To clarify, by mixed up I mean actually listed the Minnesota precinct by name and registered voter only to compare the actual votes from the corresponding numerical precinct in Michigan. This is what led to the perception over precinct overages.

Of course Giuliani and the rest of the legal team should have known that when they held their press conference and directed media members to read the affidavits.
Still did not address the question of checking voter identification.For example In 2016 Georgia rejected roughly 6 percent of the mail in ballots 2020 less than s one percent rejection rate.Recounts mean nothing if you cannot match signatures which Democrats have succeeded in avoiding.Hopefully the courts will set standards for voter id
 

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Still did not address the question of checking voter identification.For example In 2016 Georgia rejected roughly 6 percent of the mail in ballots 2020 less than s one percent rejection rate.Recounts mean nothing if you cannot match signatures which Democrats have succeeded in avoiding.Hopefully the courts will set standards for voter id

I cannot speak to that. Doesn't what I posted cast a little shadow on the legitimacy of the whole stolen election thing? That's just one example, but how inept is the president's legal team that no one caught that before presenting it in court?

I get the campaign is telling you what you want to hear, but don't things like that make you question the validity of what they're saying?
 
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Apparently, among all the affidavits that got thrown out in Michigan, the one that supposedly showed more votes than voters in precincts actually mixed up Minnesota and Michigan precincts. That particular affidavit was filed by someone from Texas and not actually checked for validity by the lawyers before being filed. Once a Michigan judge saw the Minnesota precincts listed as Michigan precincts, the judge tossed it.

To clarify, by mixed up I mean actually listed the Minnesota precinct by name and registered voter only to compare the actual votes from the corresponding numerical precinct in Michigan. This is what led to the perception over precinct overages.

Of course Giuliani and the rest of the legal team should have known that when they held their press conference and directed media members to read the affidavits.
The battle in the courts will be fought in the Supreme Court not in local courts that are mainly left wing liberals appointed by Democrats
 

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The battle in the courts will be fought in the Supreme Court not in local courts that are mainly left wing liberals appointed by Democrats

Would a conservative justice find an affidavit about Michigan precincts suppoorting the idea that Michigan needs to be overturned credible if the affidavit that contained data from Minnesota precincts as opposed to Michigan?

Also, the federal judge who dismissed the Georgia case was a Trump-appointee.
 

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The battle in the courts will be fought in the Supreme Court not in local courts that are mainly left wing liberals appointed by Democrats
You really have not been following the news. Thanks to the Republicans a lot of federal seats were not filled during the Obama administration and instead were filled by Trump. The ones he chose were the ones recommended by the Federalist Society. And, there is no metric by which they are liberal.
 
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Still did not address the question of checking voter identification.For example In 2016 Georgia rejected roughly 6 percent of the mail in ballots 2020 less than s one percent rejection rate.Recounts mean nothing if you cannot match signatures which Democrats have succeeded in avoiding.Hopefully the courts will set standards for voter id
Perhaps all that means that in 2020, there were less ballots that should have been rejected.
 

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Lawyer for Trump on Newsmax earlier said they are filing charges against Georgia on Monday or Tuesday this coming week. He said no one has reported this, but it’s shocking. We will see.

Read where Sydney Powell told Maria Bartiroma couple days ago they will be bringing some major stuff on Dominion in court next week or two. She laughed at Dominion’s public statement.

Servers found in Germany? Either they are lying and won’t be able to transport rubber donkey **** as a job, or this is about to get really interesting.
 

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Lawyer for Trump on Newsmax earlier said they are filing charges against Georgia on Monday or Tuesday this coming week. He said no one has reported this, but it’s shocking. We will see.

Read where Sydney Powell told Maria Bartiroma couple days ago they will be bringing some major stuff on Dominion in court next week or two. She laughed at Dominion’s public statement.

Servers found in Germany? Either they are lying and won’t be able to transport rubber donkey **** as a job, or this is about to get really interesting.
If we're being real. If it turns out Giuliani and Powell are lying, they both need to be in jail. If they're not lying, alot of other people need to go to jail.
 
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If we're being real. If it turns out Giuliani and Powell are lying, they both need to be in jail. If they're not lying, alot of other people need to go to jail.
Agree about Giuliani and Powell. What I’m hearing, if true, a lot of people will be going to jail.
They swear they have the dominion servers. Stuff I’ve been hearing lines up with that. One side is going to have a lot of chest pounding, but if Trump is right, Oh Lord.
 

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The only interesting thing is how many ridiculous theories and rumors OANN is going to keep spitting out.
Really? You’re gonna spew this when your side spent 4 years lying, to get nowhere? Now, maybe they are about to win, or maybe they are about to get caught with their hands deeeeep in the cookie jar. Stay tuned.
 
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Agree about Giuliani and Powell. What I’m hearing, if true, a lot of people will be going to jail.
They swear they have the dominion servers. Stuff I’ve been hearing lines up with that. One side is going to have a lot of chest pounding, but if Trump is right, Oh Lord.
Ooga Booga.
 
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Really? You’re gonna spew this when your side spent 4 years lying, to get nowhere? Now, maybe they are about to win, or maybe they are about to get caught with their hands deeeeep in the cookie jar. Stay tuned.
Do you ever step back to think how ridiculous this stuff is? That a server tallying the election was seized in Germany and that it showed a landslide victory? Seriously. The number of simply incredible things that would have to happen for this to be true makes this preposterous. I will enjoy your apology when this comes to nothing.
 
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Perhaps all that means that in 2020, there were less ballots that should have been rejected.
So if you look over a long historical period that there were a proven percentage of invalid ballots then all of a sudden this percentage drops by 90 percent.If these ballots are legitimate why have the Democrats fought successfully to not have signatures on ballots verified.It is also funny that someone like Stacy Abrams is protesting about court cases when she has been claiming she is the true Governor of Georgia for two years
 

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Big shocker a left wing Obama appointee rules against Trump

A Trump-appointee in historically red Georgia did the same thing earlier this week, right down to the slamming them for the lack of evidence.

Does that hold any more credibility in your eyes?
 
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So if you look over a long historical period that there were a proven percentage of invalid ballots then all of a sudden this percentage drops by 90 percent.If these ballots are legitimate why have the Democrats fought successfully to not have signatures on ballots verified.It is also funny that someone like Stacy Abrams is protesting about court cases when she has been claiming she is the true Governor of Georgia for two years
and yet, she conceded close in time to the election results., Perhaps Trump could take some lessons in how to be an adult and respect democracy from her.
 
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and yet, she conceded close in time to the election results., Perhaps Trump could take some lessons in how to be an adult and respect democracy from her.
She is still claiming she won citing voter suppression even though their was a historic turnout .
 

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Do you have any reason for calling him left wing other than that he was appointed by Obama? His resume does not suggest that and he was confirmed unanimously by the Senate.
Only that Democrats only nominate candidates who do not want to interpret the law but bend it pass laws that fit their political agendas
 

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Had a friend send me something very interesting, and when I typed in Circuit Assignments for Supreme Court, it says:
According to Title 28 US Code, Section 42, effective Nov 20,
MI - Kavanaugh
WI - Barrett
PA - Alito
GA - Thomas
 

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She is still claiming she won citing voter suppression even though their was a historic turnout .
she is correct. there was incredible voter suppression issues that would normally go to the Secretary of State. In Ga it was her opponent and he would not recuse himself or step down .
 
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