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key to the whole tragic situation, but if the man who took a kick at the 1st girl is any indication of the ilk of adults that were present, then that says a lot imo
On pro career alone I might put him with Kareem but Alcindor won three ncaa titles. Based on his style of play James is probably there with Oscar Robertson and Magic. I just wish he would tweet less much less. I’m not saying not at all but he’s embarrassing himself. Sometimes less is more
True, we don't know what happened there, but you said the one thing (responsible adults?) that doesn't get enough attention. Instead, too many are quick to judge the police. Most of the time, they are being called to the scene, yet receive the brunt of the criticism. Split second decisions that have lifelong consequences.
The really sad part is "police brutality" sells, and the driving force is the media, as well as the polarizing people chiming in, like Lebron.
Stop what? Exactly what part of what I said is so wrong to question or discuss?
Unless you think Makhia Bryant just woke up that morning and decided to go Michael Myers on two other girls, there is more to the story than, "police officer stops thug," as you put it.
I was a dumb *** for sure but I didn’t lecture the rest of the country on how evil all policeman were or how I would gladly trade my millions of dollars in If the unicorns and the polar bears could procreate somehow and live happily ever after
I was referring to Jordan who Mac brought up to carry on with his dumb Black athlete conversation. I was pointing out most of us probably didn't sound ultra-intelligent at 18.
I've never heard LeBron tell the country all police are evil.
key to the whole tragic situation, but if the man who took a kick at the 1st girl is any indication of the ilk of adults that were present, tyhen that says a lot imo
police brutality does exist and to me the driving force is that we keep seeing it over and over and over....in compliant situations, semi compliant situations, not compliant situations....
By the way, I saw this yesterday and didn't get to respond.
It was not my intention to put words in your mouth. I misinterpreted your previous statement regarding systemic racism. I apologize for that and making a wrong statement.
It is good to hear somebody who disagrees with me about seemingly everything agree with me that there is systemic racism.
@Jtre, please don't spin this again. This is a road you love to travel. My reference to Lebron & MJ is that's who Lebron is compared to, and that he could learn a lot from Jordan, and who he associated himself with. Comparing black athletes to other black athletes is very common. Just as we heard all through the season how Hurt's shot looked like Bird's.
The facts are still coming in and you are doing fine. I know a little bit about the foster care system. after college I had the privilege of getting to know some kids about half Black half of white. Most not all were in the system due to their mother’s drug addiction. Some would be returned to their families. Some would be “released” at 18 and basically homeless. I wish our leaders would help these poor children, but they refuse to be broken. They are the most resilient people I have ever met
Police brutality does exist, you are right. But, it isn't the driving force, nor the biggest issue. Nowhere near the top. It's the thing that sells though. Fact or fiction.
We've discussed this plenty of times before, but listening to the law leads to less confrontation. Most of it starts at home.
Police brutality is a real thing. It always has been. Just now, you get to see it because everybody walks around with a video camera.
A friend of mine who is an army recruiter told me back during the economic collapse there would be a decline in the quality of cop in the coming years, which would ultimately lead to a rise in police misconduct.
He reasoned that with the economic crisis and jobs going away, the military was able to be more selective than ever before. This was going to lead to many of the knuckleheads who wanted to join just to carry a gun and kick some *** not making the cut. At the same time, you would see police departments continue to pay low starting wages and begin lowering their standards, which would lead to some of those who in years past may have gone to the military winding up in blue uniforms.
I don't know if he was right, but I've always felt like it made sense.
jordan was well known for not speaking up about anything...his choice....now some associations of his were deemed suspect
not the top of your list, but it is a driving force, big issue , and cause for concern for many.....def starts at home
Completely agree about foster kids, as I have some familiarity. My problem is with the system that allows so many individuals to basically treat these kids like a career choice, do little to actually help them better themselves and then, as you said, turn them out when they stop drawing a check for them.
I've known a few folks who fostered and they were great people. Through them I got exposed to some others who did nothing except keep a steady stream of kids coming through their front doors in order to maintain their lifestyles.
The comparisons happen, no disputing that. I just found it bothersome that you couldn't just call LeBron dumb (not sure how you could objectively prove that but you're entitled to an opinion) but you had to bring up another Black athlete and say he was dumb too but just had smarter people around him.
This isn't directed at you but more of a general question, do you ever hear sports fans speculate or argue about how damn stupid white athletes are?
I don't mean how rival fans talk about each other's players, but more so on a large scale like Patrick Ewing, Larry Johnson, Chris Webber, etc.
Yes I saw all of that if they can turn 18 without having been molested it’s a blessing. I’ve seen kids all of whom were sexually abused thrown into the same home. Then when one abuses the other everyone at DFCS is shocked. Shocked I tell you This is a hellscape for these kids
You guys are painting police as guilty until proven innocent. This thinking has been drummed up by the media, and then these groups run with it. Sure there’s bad law enforcement out there. I’ve had dealings with some that are arrogant, and I’ve always had this opinion that when a Highway patrolman puts on his hat, he changes. But, let’s not forget our law enforcement in general, have a very tough job. They see horrible things, deal with all kinds of people, and sometimes have to make split second decisions.
Of course, they could use better training, but as a basic rule, their jobs would be easier if the suspect would comply.
It’s getting close to where many say “I’m not dealing with this ****, and walk away, or refuse to become a cop. We would really be in deep **** without them. It’s past time they get a little more support than they get.
Of course, they could use better training, but as a basic rule, their jobs would be easier if the suspect would comply.
It’s getting close to where many say “I’m not dealing with this ****, and walk away, or refuse to become a cop. We would really be in deep **** without them. It’s past time they get a little more support than they get.
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From the Washington Post database
2019 unarmed shootings
White - 26 Black - 12
2020
White 24 Black 18
The narrative is being driven without the facts....it divides not unites. Perpetuated to deliver a specific agenda.
Nothing good will come from this...it wont make us a better country. It just turns us against each other.
2019 unarmed shootings
White - 26 Black - 12
2020
White 24 Black 18
The narrative is being driven without the facts....it divides not unites. Perpetuated to deliver a specific agenda.
Nothing good will come from this...it wont make us a better country. It just turns us against each other.
Lebron is entitled to his opinion, and yes has the same freedom of speech as the rest of us. That doesn't exclude him from other people's criticism of his ignorant blabber. He says he is tired of black people being killed by police. Why isn't he tired of PEOPLE being killed by police? He said he deleted his tweet where without any knowledge of the situation other than it being a black girl killed by a white police officer he posted a picture of the officer with a demand for accountability. I'm sorry. ACCOUNTABILITY!. Because it led to more racism. Not because he rushed to judgment and made a mistake. No, because it led to more racism.
Lebron is a race baiting piece of ****, not because he's black, because that's what he is. Along with millions of race baiting pieces of **** white liberals. His messages are never about coming together in a positive way. They're always sensationalized, uneducated nonsense that paint black people as victims in every situation that involves them. He wants accountability? Accountability starts in the home. It is very rare that a person who is killed by the police committed a crime worthy of a death sentence. But their actions, far more times than not, lead to the interactions with the cops to begin with. Now there are bad cops and there is still a need for real police reform. But society needs to be reformed too or it won't matter. Hold accountable the life long criminals. Hold accountable the person who fought and resisted arrest. Hold accountable the person who flashed his gun at random people. Hold accountable the people who wave knives around. We don't want to hold ourselves accountable for our own actions, we want to forget all about our decisions and blame someone else for a tragic outcome. In a lot of cases it is the police. We are a broken society and clowns like Lebron bring nothing positive at all to the table. They just further the divide by regurgitating the same unsubstantiated garbage being perpetuated by the left and their propaganda machine.
Lebron is a race baiting piece of ****, not because he's black, because that's what he is. Along with millions of race baiting pieces of **** white liberals. His messages are never about coming together in a positive way. They're always sensationalized, uneducated nonsense that paint black people as victims in every situation that involves them. He wants accountability? Accountability starts in the home. It is very rare that a person who is killed by the police committed a crime worthy of a death sentence. But their actions, far more times than not, lead to the interactions with the cops to begin with. Now there are bad cops and there is still a need for real police reform. But society needs to be reformed too or it won't matter. Hold accountable the life long criminals. Hold accountable the person who fought and resisted arrest. Hold accountable the person who flashed his gun at random people. Hold accountable the people who wave knives around. We don't want to hold ourselves accountable for our own actions, we want to forget all about our decisions and blame someone else for a tragic outcome. In a lot of cases it is the police. We are a broken society and clowns like Lebron bring nothing positive at all to the table. They just further the divide by regurgitating the same unsubstantiated garbage being perpetuated by the left and their propaganda machine.
here is the article from WaPo. It points out that, while less African-Americans are killed by cops than whites, they are actually killed at a disproportionally higher rate given the percentage of African-Americans to whites in the US.https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/
Now do the disproportionately higher violent crime rate of the minority population according to percentage of them to whites.
I’m no statistician, but cops do need to go where the crime is. That should be common sense.
that’s all fine. my only point is just quoting numbers doesn’t really advance the conversation. there is a reason for the expression “lies, damn lies and statistics”
This argument gets tiresome. I have never heard anyone say that these types of crimes are less tragic but, when it comes to protest,there is a difference when the crime is committed by the government itself..
The fact that you call them crimes committed by the government shows your sheepish ignorance. It is very rare that these police shootings, or killings are criminal. Very rare. What's tiresome is you race junkies who try to downplay the silence from the woke jokes when it comes to the true epidemic within the black community. That is black youth killing black youth. You disgusting people just hammer home the idea that white people or cops are the biggest threat to the lives of black people. The true racists are you and your ilk.
Generally you may have a point but specifically I’ve heard people question Larry bird Bradshaw and Troy aikman’s intelligence to name just a few. A member of my family went to UCLA and was always talking about thick aikman was. Years later when he was doing games for fox I made the offhanded comment re how insightful he was and I was told “that’s because you’re a moron” so I guess beauty is n the eye of the beholder
Now that you have called me ignorant and a true racist, you have convinced me of the error of my ways. I do hope you have good blood pressure medication cuz you sound like you are about to blow an artery.
When you make a point that merits comment, I will address it. I am NOT responding to your ridiculous and nasty attacks on my character.
You quoted my post with a disingenuous and ignorant response. I made points that you can't dispute. So you play victim as if me saying your response showed your sheepish ignorance was some sort of character shattering attack. Or that me saying that you and your liberal ilk are the true racist is not factual. You have no problem chiming in with your opinions, but you tuck your tail and run whenever you can't come up with a response that actually addresses the point. I am sorry that you are so sensitive that you can't handle some very light shots at your character. If it means anything, I don’t judge your character as a person outside of this message board as I do not know you and you don't know me. I can only form my opinions based on my only interactions with you. And I am a firm believer that the people who continually repeat the same divisive talking points from the left and their propaganda machine are the true racist. Whether intentional or due to naivete. You seem to fall into this category.
Let me ask you a sincere question though. What do you think is the biggest threat or hold back to the lives and lifestyles of the black community?
No one will shed any tears for this dude.
On a side note, I scrolled through the last few days of Jason Whitlock's Twitter feed and I found no mentions of Jaslyn Adams until he responded to LeBron's tweet. Whitlock was talking about all kinds of things over the past three days but only felt the need to bring her up as what-about-prop when going after someone who was objecting to something he disagrees with.
Does that mean he doesn't care about her either?
If police spent resources posting up outside country bars and VFWs at closing time the way they do clubs frequented by Blacks, would they bust a lot more white folks for DUI?