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chitown87

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I think the stepdad is far more likely than the financial planner. It's definitely f*cking not Stone or his son.
 

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What if this is the work of a serial killer? We saw the body at the beginning of episode 7 and heard box say something to the effect of it looking like Andrea's scene.
 

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When he mentioned it looked like Andrea's scene, I think he was making a statement that the media didn't give a **** because it was a black girl, and not a pretty ,rich, white girl that was killed. Don't think it was anything more than that.
 
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When he mentioned it looked like Andrea's scene, I think he was making a statement that the media didn't give a **** because it was a black girl, and not a pretty ,rich, white girl that was killed. Don't think it was anything more than that.
I had the same thought. And that's probably all it is. But, and this only my opinion, 22 stab wounds is either a crime of passion involving someone that new and had a relationship of some sort with Andrea or the work of a serial killer/psychopath.
 

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I actually thought episodes 5-7 were a lot better than 2-4. My only real complaints in the show are that the pacing is really strange, and the courtroom stuff has been bad.

Really nothing has happened in the show to convince the viewer that months have passed since the murder, but clearly that must be the case if we are already nearly all the way through the trial.

Re: the trial, I expect MUCH better from HBO. I'm not a lawyer, but the things happening and being said at the trial just didn't make sense.

I do think it's very well acted, overall. Certainly worth a watch. I don't quite get all the complaints I see on here - this isn't True Detective Season 2 level bad.
 

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As one critic puts it, "Forgive the misdemeanors and focus on the knowing minutiae and stellar performances, both of which are enough to make “Night” another must-see program in what’s already been a banner year for television." I think some people just watch shows to complain about them.
 

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You cannot follow Game of Thrones, Silicon Valley and Veep with the pile of **** that is The Night of and expect people to ignore the ****** plot line misdemeanors or whatever the hell you're talking about.

No one is watching The Night Of just to complain. We're watching The Night Of because HBO has a great track record and rarely puts out dog **** like this, but once you've invested time in a few episodes, it's worth seeing it through.
 
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Yeah. That's why the show is critically acclaimed. It's ****. Just the writers of Schindler's list and the wire. They don't know what they're doing. They're idiots. But I'm glad we got Truffaut and Godard on this board to tell us how awful it is.
 

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Again, I completely understand criticisms of certain details and plot lines, but I just don't get how some can call the show as a whole terrible. Different strokes, I guess.
 

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Yeah. That's why the show is critically acclaimed. It's ****. Just the writers of Schindler's list and the wire. They don't know what they're doing. They're idiots. But I'm glad we got Truffaut and Godard on this board to tell us how awful it is.

It is funny how all the smartest people in the world happen to be message board posters. At least that is what it seems like sometimes.

Oh well IMO it has been a well written and acted series. I didn't realize the writers pedigree either--that is interesting. A few strange turns and head scratching scenes aside, it was pretty enjoyable to watch. Will hold on final judgment until I get to see the finale.

But, if the producers keep the general format and change the storyline in a true detective like way, I will tune in to watch. I think the single season series is an excellent format, if done properly.
 
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Just sit back and let the show entertain you. It isn't meant to be dissected or to reveal some great truth about American justice. It's not a documentary. It is art hanging on a wall to be looked at and the flaws are part of it.
 

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One cool thing about the show... the Chinese doctor that finally cured Stone's feet is a real life Chinese doctor and the stuff he prescribed is exactly what he would have given anyone. When they were writing that scene and doing research for it that is the guy they went and asked what a doctor like him would have done. This is all low budget and even though he had never acted, nor wanted to they convinced him to do it. They just told to him to act like no one else was there and he was a real patient.
 

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One cool thing about the show... the Chinese doctor that finally cured Stone's feet is a real life Chinese doctor and the stuff he prescribed is exactly what he would have given anyone. When they were writing that scene and doing research for it that is the guy they went and asked what a doctor like him would have done. This is all low budget and even though he had never acted, nor wanted to they convinced him to do it. They just told to him to act like no one else was there and he was a real patient.
That's pretty cool. So that dude really does struggle with his gloves. I thought that looked authentic.
 

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John Turturro's lines to the doctor about "give me a root or tree bark or something" are all pitch perfect New York replies, too.
 

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[laughing]

It still was, even though he was right. That show went to **** down the stretch.
 

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Smuggling in drugs for a client so he can be high enough to testify is a joke, and pretty much ruined the entire show for me.
 
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[laughing]

It still was, even though he was right. That show went to **** down the stretch.

Keep on fighting the good fight there brotha. Maybe next time think twice before calling someone an idiot. Boomerang may swoop back and knock you on your *** again.

But can't argue the show was as good as I thought it might be. Did redeem itself somewhat in the last few episodes.
 

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I liked the finale, but this show really lost steam with me with Nasir's weird character development. The quickness of him going from the backward, shy kid to the freaking "SIN BAD" and crown tattoos completely missed the mark. And as a result, I didn't end up getting invested in his character and how his story would turn out. Really dug some of the other performances though.
 
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Superb. There were plenty of misses with the plot development and the whole thing with the attorney throwing her career down the drain was just stupid, frankly.... but the sheer grittiness of the characters and the cold grey steel of the city they inhabit were stellar. Brilliant series in capable hands. It is pitch perfect a copy of Errol Morris' style from "The Thin Blue Line" and I hope to see more of it.
 
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I thought the finale was pretty lame. Granted, I was probably too distracted by this to really pay enough attention.


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I thought the finale was pretty lame. Granted, I was probably too distracted by this to really pay enough attention.


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Remus doesn't like the word "deadlocked".

Seriously tho what 3-4 different actors from boardwalk empire were on the show. Must be some of the same producers involved.
 

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I liked the finale, but this show really lost steam with me with Nasir's weird character development. The quickness of him going from the backward, shy kid to the freaking "SIN BAD" and crown tattoos completely missed the mark. And as a result, I didn't end up getting invested in his character and how his story would turn out. Really dug some of the other performances though.
Nasir's development in prison was the point of the show. This was never a whodunit that was going to have a satisfying ending.

At the end of the show, Nasir is free but not totally exonerated, his relationship with his mother is ruined, his dad's career is ruined, and he's addicted to drugs. All because he was falsely accused of a crime.

I did enjoy the ending, but the stuff with his lawyer and their kiss, the drugs, etc, was awful. Not sure what purpose it served.
 

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Nasir's development in prison was the point of the show. This was never a whodunit that was going to have a satisfying ending.

Agreed in full, but my point was his development was completely forced. 0-100 in like two episodes. His turn as a character was way too extreme and way too fast.
 

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He was apparently a good person going into jail, was thrown into the general population as a celebrity (for lack of a better term), was taken under the wing of the hardened criminal who runs the prison because they can play chess together, survived a homemade napalm attack, beat the **** out of another inmate, participated in the murder of an inmate, got "Sinbad" tattooed across his knuckles, shaved his head and got tatted up during trial, developed a crack habit and had his attorney smuggle him contraband.

What part of that seems forced? I guess they could have had him bang another inmate, but that may have been too much.

And that all happened with no frame of reference on timeline other than knowing trials take a long time.

This was a totally realistic critique of the American justice system.
 

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He was apparently a good person going into jail, was thrown into the general population as a celebrity (for lack of a better term), was taken under the wing of the hardened criminal who runs the prison because they can play chess together, survived a homemade napalm attack, beat the **** out of another inmate, participated in the murder of an inmate, got "Sinbad" tattooed across his knuckles, shaved his head and got tatted up during trial, developed a crack habit and had his attorney smuggle him contraband.

What part of that seems forced? I guess they could have had him bang another inmate, but that may have been too much.

And that all happened with no frame of reference on timeline other than knowing trials take a long time.

This was a totally realistic critique of the American justice system.
[roll]
 

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He was apparently a good person going into jail, was thrown into the general population as a celebrity (for lack of a better term), was taken under the wing of the hardened criminal who runs the prison because they can play chess together, survived a homemade napalm attack, beat the **** out of another inmate, participated in the murder of an inmate, got "Sinbad" tattooed across his knuckles, shaved his head and got tatted up during trial, developed a crack habit and had his attorney smuggle him contraband.

What part of that seems forced? I guess they could have had him bang another inmate, but that may have been too much.

And that all happened with no frame of reference on timeline other than knowing trials take a long time.

This was a totally realistic critique of the American justice system.

Yeah, when they showed him last night getting a crown tattooed on his neck right in the middle of his trial I almost turned off the tv. If the trial had lasted another few days, who knows what else he might have done to "survive". BTW, I believe it is heroin they are smoking and not crack. They smoke and then are basically comatose afterwards.
 
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One other thing - I hear so many people talking about the great acting on this show. Yes, much of the acting was very good. But the woman who plays Chandra was awful. She used the same, stoic expression throughout the show (except when she was literally crying at counsel table during the trial - wtf!) I was unsure if we are supposed to think she was doing a good job or not, and had no idea why she would have gone to the lengths she did (smuggling drugs into jail) to help Nas. Basically I thought Chandra was a bad character made worse by a bad performance.
 

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Nasir's development in prison was the point of the show. This was never a whodunit that was going to have a satisfying ending.

At the end of the show, Nasir is free but not totally exonerated, his relationship with his mother is ruined, his dad's career is ruined, and he's addicted to drugs. All because he was falsely accused of a crime.

I did enjoy the ending, but the stuff with his lawyer and their kiss, the drugs, etc, was awful. Not sure what purpose it served.
He was not falsely accused.
 

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Are you just a dumbass or trying to be obtuse? He was charged with a crime that he didn't commit. It's not an especially difficult statement to comprehend.
It was never proven he did not commit the crime. Half the jury thought he was guilty. That's why there was a hung jury.
 
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