The NY Times Executive Editor admits the left does not want to engage in intelligent discourse

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And admits he is a liberal in this piece, no surprise there.

New York Times Executive Editor Accidentally Admits He’s A Liberal [VIDEO]


CHUCK ROSS
Reporter


New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet accidentally admitted on Wednesday that he is a liberal.

The not-so-shocking acknowledgement slipped off of Baquet’s tongue during an interview at Recode’s Code conference in Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif.

Baquet, who took over The Times’ top spot in 2014, was delivering a critique of liberals who recently criticized him for hiring Bret Stephens, a moderately conservative columnist who has questioned theories about man-made climate change.

“I don’t understand how one can actually have an intellectual discourse in this country if you cannot have the opportunity to read thoughtful people with whom you disagree. We’re at a moment in the country right now which I think, you know, the Left should do some soul searching too, right?” Baquet said.

He then began referring to “the Left” as “we” before catching his slip-up.

“We don’t want to hear anything — we’ve long said this about this about the Right — but I think the Left, we don’t — I’m not ‘we,’ I’m a journalist — but the Left as a rule does not want to hear thoughtful disagreement,” he said, to slight laughter from his liberal audience.
 

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You are noticing that says the same of the right too,correct?

No, I am not. Look at what is happening at college campuses. Conservative speakers are routinely stopped from speaking. Can you name any lib speakers stopped from speaking? This is on the libs.
 

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No, I am not. Look at what is happening at college campuses. Conservative speakers are routinely stopped from speaking. Can you name any lib speakers stopped from speaking? This is on the libs.
Sorry, I meant to say: you noticed that he says the same of the right too, correct?
 

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Sorry, I meant to say: you noticed that he says the same of the right too, correct?

He's a lib, what do you expect. But conservatives are NOT shutting down speech on campuses. The NY Times hired a modest conservative who wrote a piece on global warming and they lost a lot of subscribers that did not want to read a conservative viewpoint.

This is disease almost entirely on the left.
 

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He's a lib, what do you expect. But conservatives are NOT shutting down speech on campuses. The NY Times hired a modest conservative who wrote a piece on global warming and they lost a lot of subscribers that did not want to read a conservative viewpoint.

This is disease almost entirely on the left.
You're a conservative, what do I expect?
 

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He's a lib, what do you expect. But conservatives are NOT shutting down speech on campuses. The NY Times hired a modest conservative who wrote a piece on global warming and they lost a lot of subscribers that did not want to read a conservative viewpoint.

This is disease almost entirely on the left.
You're a fvcking drama queen
 

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You're a fvcking drama queen

Boom, you so quickly resort to invective and name calling. I thought libs were tolerant, understanding, compassionate, etc. I hope you don't react this way to your students that disagree with you.
 

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Boom, you so quickly resort to invective and name calling. I thought libs were tolerant, understanding, compassionate, etc. I hope you don't react this way to your students that disagree with you.
I'm citing a fact, follow the fact
 

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lol, "the left", probably about as encompassing and cohesive as "the right".
This has been a common theme to most conservative posters on here....breaking everything NOT GOP conservative down into one group of "leftists" that hate and seek to destroy America.
 

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That is your evidence? A professor is recorded saying insane, hateful, bigoted things and is turned in by students? And O'Reilly states what he thinks of it all? That's it?

Do you want some pics of fires, assaults, property destruction, etc., by libs? I have a suggestion boom. Read. Google campus speech being shut down. That is a neutral search and see what you find.
You didn't finish the article did you?
 

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You didn't finish the article did you?

What McCarthyism? Examples from the 50's? Come on. Engage in a realistic debate. Even the writer admits libs have a big problem on campuses at the very end.

Do you want me to post some pics? Do you want me to post article after article about how conservative speakers were shut down? Very easy to find.

Please locate one lib speaker that was shut down.

BTW, I am not saying all libs, but I am saying the problem lies mainly with the left. There have been a few brave libs to speak out against this. Zakaria of CNN, Maher of HBO are a couple off the top of my head.
 

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What McCarthyism? Examples from the 50's? Come on. Engage in a realistic debate. Even the writer admits libs have a big problem on campuses at the very end.

Do you want me to post some pics? Do you want me to post article after article about how conservative speakers were shut down? Very easy to find.

Please locate one lib speaker that was shut down.

BTW, I am not saying all libs, but I am saying the problem lies mainly with the left. There have been a few brave libs to speak out against this. Zakaria of CNN, Maher of HBO are a couple off the top of my head.
https://www.thefire.org/list-of-campus-disinvitations-2000-2014/

A good list. More conservative speakers for sure (although I haven't added them up - just assuming). Violence probably missing in most conservative cases, but the sentiment is the same.
 

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https://www.thefire.org/list-of-campus-disinvitations-2000-2014/

A good list. More conservative speakers for sure (although I haven't added them up - just assuming). Violence probably missing in most conservative cases, but the sentiment is the same.

Those were attempts Boom. Why not show those that were denied speaking engagements? Why not show those that suffered from violence, rioting, assaults, etc.?

I admit some conservative groups have tried to stop lib speakers (Notre Dame had protests with Obama based on his support for abortion at any time). But they did not succeed.
 

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Those were attempts Boom. Why not show those that were denied speaking engagements? Why not show those that suffered from violence, rioting, assaults, etc.?

I admit some conservative groups have tried to stop lib speakers (Notre Dame had protests with Obama based on his support for abortion at any time). But they did not succeed.
The list does....it's color coded.
 

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https://www.thefire.org/list-of-campus-disinvitations-2000-2014/

A good list. More conservative speakers for sure (although I haven't added them up - just assuming). Violence probably missing in most conservative cases, but the sentiment is the same.

The list only goes through 2014. As you know, this has gone up dramatically over the past few years. And by looking at the list back through 2012, far more conservatives or those that had views libs hate (e.g. support for Israel), were blackballed.

Let's try and find out who is committing all the violence that is used to stop these speakers.

List from 2015-2016

As far as I can tell, only 3 libs on this list (but I am not certain because two are entertainers).

http://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-disinvited-speakers-at-colleges-2016-7
 

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The list only goes through 2014. As you know, this has gone up dramatically over the past few years. And by looking at the list back through 2012, far more conservatives or those that had views libs hate (e.g. support for Israel), were blackballed.

Let's try and find out who is committing all the violence that is used to stop these speakers.
You know I conceded those points already. This is something that everyone needs to learn, it isn't a "liberal disease"....it's a byproduct of a lack of political discourse that has respect and tolerance....frustration and fear manifested in an attempt to affect a change in public conversation by using violence and nonviolent means
 

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You know I conceded those points already. This is something that everyone needs to learn, it isn't a "liberal disease"....it's a byproduct of a lack of political discourse that has respect and tolerance....frustration and fear manifested in an attempt to affect a change in public conversation by using violence and nonviolent means

Boom, you're being disingenuous, it is mainly from the left with lots of evidence over the past several years. And I believe ALL of the violence is from the left.
 

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Boom, you're being disingenuous, it is mainly from the left with lots of evidence over the past several years. And I believe ALL of the violence is from the left.
I contend you're part of the problem with your personal vendetta against "the left" daily. Once we make it about choosing one side or the other, the results will be more of these divisive actions. Many young liberals on college campuses, as well as some liberal professors, are behaving in contrast to the liberal ideology and are contributing to the drawing of lines between two sides in the US. Call them out, sure, just don't make it all about "lib versus conservative".....it's the root of the problem. Is my point
 

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I contend you're part of the problem with your personal vendetta against "the left" daily. Once we make it about choosing one side or the other, the results will be more of these divisive actions. Many young liberals on college campuses, as well as some liberal professors, are behaving in contrast to the liberal ideology and are contributing to the drawing of lines between two sides in the US. Call them out, sure, just don't make it all about "lib versus conservative".....it's the root of the problem. Is my point

We have always had lib vs. conservative. That is the nature of debate. Only one side has changed the rules. Only one side is resorting to violence to stop debate.

You're a lib, I'm a conservative. But we can have constructive debates. Don't blame me when libs behave badly on issues like free speech and I point it out. Libs should speak out more forcefully against what colleges and universities are doing today to destroy free speech, coddle their students and stop preparing them for life and career.

It is these institutions that are "the problem" and creating a whole new generation of squishes that don't understand our Constitution and why it is so important.

I could also point out the destructive nature of the main stream media, picking sides and trying to sway opinion and elections. That is not how our press is supposed to operate.
 
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