The Recruiter gets an NCAA Tourney-type schedule this week to handle
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This team is still a work in progress. I predict a loss to Bama. We are going to continue to have some growing pains, but I expect to be firing on all cylinders toward the end of the season and into the tournament.<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>
2008 John Pelphry- @Arky- L, Arky- W (1-1)
2008 Billy Gillespie- UK- W (2-1)
2008 Darrin Horn- USCe- W (3-1)
2009 Trent Johnson- @LSU- L, LSU- L (3-3)
2009 Anthony Grant- @Bama- L, Bama- W (4-4)
2010 John Calipary- UK- L (4-5)
2010 Tony Barbee- AU- W, @AU- L (5-6)
2011 Mike Anderson- @ Arky- L (5-7)
So since the 2007-2008 season, Stansbury has a 5-7 record over new coaches in the SEC (.4167).
2008 Billy Gillespie- UK- W (2-1)
2008 Darrin Horn- USCe- W (3-1)
2009 Trent Johnson- @LSU- L, LSU- L (3-3)
2009 Anthony Grant- @Bama- L, Bama- W (4-4)
2010 John Calipary- UK- L (4-5)
2010 Tony Barbee- AU- W, @AU- L (5-6)
2011 Mike Anderson- @ Arky- L (5-7)
So since the 2007-2008 season, Stansbury has a 5-7 record over new coaches in the SEC (.4167).
Like I said, I have no idea what his record was against new coaches.
However, Stansbury did not start coaching in 2008. There were a bunch of coaches left off of that list too. Where are Heath, Fox, Stallings, Kennedy, Lebo, and all the other coaches that have been hired/fired over the years? That is a cherry picked list if there ever was one.</p>
However, Stansbury did not start coaching in 2008. There were a bunch of coaches left off of that list too. Where are Heath, Fox, Stallings, Kennedy, Lebo, and all the other coaches that have been hired/fired over the years? That is a cherry picked list if there ever was one.</p>
If you want to add Andy Kennedy, we went 1-1 against him in 2007 (since that was the only SEC coaching change in 2006), but I'd have to sift through old PDF's and try to find all the coaching changes, and I'd rather not do that. I didn't "cherry pick" to skew results, that's all I really had time to go off of, but I figured 5 years would give us an idea what his record is.
Honestly, I wasn't too surprised by the results and I imagine the actual number isn't too far off from the sample I gave. If anyone wants to prove me wrong, have at it.
Honestly, I wasn't too surprised by the results and I imagine the actual number isn't too far off from the sample I gave. If anyone wants to prove me wrong, have at it.
He can't win against a coach he hasn't faced before with a decent team, it's a FACT....
Stans just can't game-plan worth a damn, if he hasn't played them before...Why??
Do he and our staff just not watch film for these other teams, or is it more too it?
Sweet 16 or Bust.....
Stans just can't game-plan worth a damn, if he hasn't played them before...Why??
Do he and our staff just not watch film for these other teams, or is it more too it?
Sweet 16 or Bust.....
2000- No SEC Coaching Changes
2001- Buzz Peterson (Tennessee)- Win
2002- Stan Heath- (1-1)
2003- No SEC Coaching Changes
2004- Jeff Lebo (1-1)
2005- Bruce Pearl- Loss
2006- Andy Kennedy- (1-1)
I'll have a hard time going back to the 1998 and 1999 season (I don't know of any coaching changes in that time), but this, plus his other record I posted of 5-7, becomes 9-11, or .45... a difference (from .4167) of .0333. So, my list was absolutely not "cherry picked," it was pretty damn close.
ETA- Kevin Stallings- Who we lost to in the 2000 season (he was hired in 1999). Make the total 9-12, or .4286.
Another ETA- David Odom in 2001. We beat them in 2002. Mark Fox in 2009. We beat them in 2010. Make the total 11-12, or .4783... a difference (from .4167) of .062.
2001- Buzz Peterson (Tennessee)- Win
2002- Stan Heath- (1-1)
2003- No SEC Coaching Changes
2004- Jeff Lebo (1-1)
2005- Bruce Pearl- Loss
2006- Andy Kennedy- (1-1)
I'll have a hard time going back to the 1998 and 1999 season (I don't know of any coaching changes in that time), but this, plus his other record I posted of 5-7, becomes 9-11, or .45... a difference (from .4167) of .0333. So, my list was absolutely not "cherry picked," it was pretty damn close.
ETA- Kevin Stallings- Who we lost to in the 2000 season (he was hired in 1999). Make the total 9-12, or .4286.
Another ETA- David Odom in 2001. We beat them in 2002. Mark Fox in 2009. We beat them in 2010. Make the total 11-12, or .4783... a difference (from .4167) of .062.
Thanks for your correction...
How about this.... <span style="font-weight: bold;">Stans can't win consistently against a coaches whose team he hasn't faced before..</span>
I hope he proves me wrong for the rest of the year and he finally makes it in the NCAA to the Sweet 16 or better.
Thursday night wold be a good start vs Tenn.
We gave the talent to finally make a real run in the NCAA...
Sweet 16 or Bust
Go Dawgs...
How about this.... <span style="font-weight: bold;">Stans can't win consistently against a coaches whose team he hasn't faced before..</span>
I hope he proves me wrong for the rest of the year and he finally makes it in the NCAA to the Sweet 16 or better.
Thursday night wold be a good start vs Tenn.
We gave the talent to finally make a real run in the NCAA...
Sweet 16 or Bust
Go Dawgs...
I guess Sean Miller, Billy Kennedy, and Bob Huggins don't have decent teams? <div>fishwater99 said:
</div><div>And wouldn't it be a credit to a coaches "game-planning" if he adjusts and does better against coaches the 2nd and 3rd times that he sees them?</div>
Also didn't Stansbury face Trent Johnson for the first time when he was at Stanford? What was the outcome of that I wonder?
Anyway this is just about the stupidest argument against Stansbury that I have seen on here. The man has a ton of faults as a head coach but this is ignorant. Wouldn't just about any coach fare better against a coach they have faced before? Is that not common sense?
Anyway this is just about the stupidest argument against Stansbury that I have seen on here. The man has a ton of faults as a head coach but this is ignorant. Wouldn't just about any coach fare better against a coach they have faced before? Is that not common sense?
I hope he continues that trend throughout the year and into the NCAA.
His past history does show he has a below average record against coaches the first time he has faced them, even when we have the better team.
Yes Stans does a better job game planning after he has played the team before. That's my point.
The problem is his in-game adjustments or lack thereof, especially if he hasn't played against them before.
But maybe the old dog is finally learning a new trick..
His past history does show he has a below average record against coaches the first time he has faced them, even when we have the better team.
Yes Stans does a better job game planning after he has played the team before. That's my point.
The problem is his in-game adjustments or lack thereof, especially if he hasn't played against them before.
But maybe the old dog is finally learning a new trick..
This doesn't exactly make logical sense. "Any coach" can't fare better against someone they have faced before because they are both facing each other multiple times. How would you explain "any coach" faring better when if one fares better, then the other fares worse?
Now you are getting it. Games that we won don't count.**DAWG61 said:
You also have to factor in where the games are played. I am pretty confident that if we had played Arkansas in Starkville then Stansbury would be 1-0 instead. Again it is just a retarded argument that does not prove a damn thing.
If Stansbury loses the first game against a coach but then wins the next 5 games against that coach then who is the better coach? Raise your hand if you want Stan Heath, Dennis Felton, Darrin Horn, orRod Barnes as our coach? Anyone? Anyone?
so we make excuses about how our budget, facilities, and such doesnt match the big boys- but then you want to turn right around and compare our program to Valley, Belmont, Rider, SE Lousiana, La Monroe, and the like???? The Recruiter makes more in salary than some of those teams' budgets
last Saturday night I'm not exactly high on him right now but you guys started the comparison and it's only fair to include every new coach we play. The tournament selection committee doesn't exclude wins and losses because a school has a low budget. If you are going to put up numbers on Stansbury put up ALL the numbers.
Especially since Fish stole this argument from me...I made this point 3 or 4 years ago.
It explains his marginal record against non-cupcake nonconference teams and his paltry record in the tournament paired with the fact that his teams always look better once the Conference slate starts.
It's not like he couldn't have watched a ton of Missouri games from the last few seasons though. Did he ever play Anderson when he was at UAB?
In my opinion, this and his inability to make meaningful in-game adjustments, other than moving a guard to PF, are his two most glaring weaknesses.
It explains his marginal record against non-cupcake nonconference teams and his paltry record in the tournament paired with the fact that his teams always look better once the Conference slate starts.
It's not like he couldn't have watched a ton of Missouri games from the last few seasons though. Did he ever play Anderson when he was at UAB?
In my opinion, this and his inability to make meaningful in-game adjustments, other than moving a guard to PF, are his two most glaring weaknesses.