The SEC Big 6 nightmare

[00Dawg]

Alabama wins.
Kansas State squeaks by Baylor.
Wisconsin squeaks by Ohio State.
Arizona wins or Oregon squeaks by.
TCU wins.

The result?
3 Big 12 teams, 3 Big 10 teams, 2 ACC teams, 2 Pac 12 teams, Boise St, and Bama in the Big 6 bowls.

 

[Crazy Cotton]

I'm still confused as hell - I thought if a conference champion was in the playoffs, the next conference team automatically went to the big six - otherwise why is Georgia Tech in this conversation?

 

[8dog]

Thats only if your contract bowl is not a playoff game.

And for some reason kellenbeger thinks om is going to peach or cotton. I think the media understands this less than anyone.

 

[00Dawg]

Strangely, UM can still get to a Big 6 bowl. They need Wisconsin to lose and Kansas State to lose convincingly enough that they jump them.

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

Ole Miss has a decent shot at a major bowl. Right now they are the last team out. If Kansas State loses to Baylor and the rest of the seeding holds (Bama and Ohio State win), they are in I think.

 

[rynodawg]

In that scenario, I really think the committee would just rig the rankings to ensure each power conference gets 2 teams minimum. So in this case they would just put us at #9 and Baylor #10, which wouldn't be that out of line if Baylor dropped their home finale.

Same thing with Arizona, they will want to keep the Pac 12 with two teams and Zona in the Fiesta. The Baylor/Kstate loser is likely out.

Another team to pull for is Boise St. I don't want to risk Marshall or some other east coast team getting back into the picture.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Here's the protocol straight from the CFP website....


Pairings for Selected Other Bowl Games.
All displaced conference champions and the highest ranked champion from a non-contract conference, as ranked by the committee, will participate in selected other bowl games and will be assigned to those games by the committee. If berths in the selected other bowl games remain available after those teams have been identified, the highest ranked other teams, as ranked by the committee, will fill those berths in rank order.’(Note: A “displaced conference champion” is a champion of a contract conference that does not qualify for the playoff in a year when its contract bowl hosts a semifinal game.)
The committee shall create the best matchups in these bowl games in light of the following considerations. None of these considerations shall affect the ranking of teams. Also, none of these considerations will be controlling in determining the assignment of teams to available bowl games.
The committee will use geography as a consideration in the pairing of teams and assigning them to available bowl games.
The committee will attempt to avoid regular-season rematches when assigning teams to bowls.
To benefit fans and student-athletes, the committee will attempt to avoid assigning a team, or conference, or the highest-ranked champion of a non-contract conference, to the same bowl game repeatedly.
The committee will consider regular-season head-to-head results when assigning teams to bowls.
The committee will consider conference championships when assigning teams to bowls.


Selection Sequence.
Selection committee will rank teams 1-25.
Selection committee will place teams in the playoff semifinals bowls.
Contract bowls will fill their berths in accordance with their contracts.
Selection committee will assign teams to remainder of the Cotton, Fiesta and Peach Bowl berths.

 

[8dog]

Mcmurphy and schlabaugh now both saying they did projections before rankings (which makes no sense on a tues but whatevee). They thought we would be ahead of mich st which we of course should have.

 

[Bulldog from Birth]

Assuming Alabama beats Missouri, I think Ole Miss just needs Wisconsin and Kansas State to both lose. If so, they are in. It's dicey if Arizona and Wisconsin both lose - not sure they jump Arizona in that scenario. Would be pressure to let the Pac-12 get a 2nd team into the Big 6 Bowls.

 

[rynodawg]

Yep, the only upset they need is Ohio State who are 4 point dogs to Wisconsin. If there are no other upsets they would likely jump Kstate and SEC would have 3 teams.

 

[patdog]

SEC gets 3 teams in the major bowls if that scenario plays out. Ohio St. and Baylor would drop out of the top 11.

 

[Tomas Smid]

My crystal ball says . . . . .

the stars are aligning to place Ga Tech v. MSU in the Orange, OSU v. MSU in the Peach, OM v. Baylor in the Cotton and Boise State v. Arizona in the Fiesta. The first MSU is the school up north.

 

[00Dawg]

We dropped 6 places with a 2 TD loss to a top 20 team. The Buckeyes and Bears aren't dropping that far with squeakers to Top 10 opponents.

 

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

We dropped 6 places with a 2 TD loss to a top 20 team. The Buckeyes and Bears aren't dropping that far with squeakers to Top 10 opponents.

OSU definitely could free fall with a convincing loss. They will be playing a 3rd string QB and the Committee could be hesitant to send 3 Big10 teams to the big 6 bowls since everyone knows the Big10 is garbage.

If not, then we need to hope OSU wins (Wisc. will likely jump us with a win), FSU wins (GT is going anyway, but would likely jump us with a win and it would send FSU to another Access bowl instead of semis), and Bama wins (Mizzou would automatically make one of the Big 6 and likely take our spot unless SEC gets 3 in)

 

[00Dawg]

The original scenario in the thread was close losses only. I'm in total agreement that a thrashed-OSU could free fall.

Theoretically, if GT loses and OSU, 'Zona, and the loser of Baylor/KSU all get blown out, we could rise as high as #7.

I've stopped hoping for that sort of thing, though. I can't even wrap my head around how KSU and Michigan State are ranked above us....KSU has 1 Top 25 win, and the Spartans have 0 (1 at the time they played). Heck, KSU lost at home to Auburn. Common opponent results are frickin' criteria. Those two teams are 1-4 against the current Top 25, and we're 2-2, with the best win out of the 9 games (#19 Auburn).

 

[MagnificentBastard]

If the playoffs and bowls were set today

Sugar - Bama vs FSU
Rose - Oregon vs TCU
Orange - Ga Tech vs Ohio St
Fiesta, Cotton, Peach - Combination of Baylor, Michigan St, Arizona, Kansas St, Mississppi St and Boise St

First 2 out - Ole Miss and Wisconsin

Projection for Miss St - If Bama wins we are in either Fiesta, Cotton or Peach

Projection for Ole Miss- They are in for sure in Fiesta, Cotton or Peach if Ohio St, Bama and Baylor wins. I don't think the committee is going to drop Arizona out of the top 10 if they lose.

I don't think Bama drop from top 10 if they lose and Missouri will move up. If Baylor wins K State will drop from Top 10. If K State wins I think Baylor drops behind us but stays in the top 10. Ohio St would stay in with a loss unless they look terrible with their 3rd string qb but probably drop below us.

 

[Shooter McGavin.sixpack]

Yeah these rankings were the first that made me say WTF. I'm ok with the TCU over FSU part but KSU and Sparty over us is bunk, although KState probably won't stay above us after Saturday.

 

[morningwood]

I believe Opie has figured out the Ouija board and he is correct, right on.

 

[fishwater99]

SEC gets 3 teams in the major bowls if that scenario plays out. Ohio St. and Baylor would drop out of the top 11.

I agree... OSU and Baylor would fall hard with a loss.
If AZ loses too then we would move up to #7.

I don't see us dropping out of the Top tier of Bowls..

 

[patdog]

The Big 10 (or SEC) champ can't play in the Orange Bowl. The contract specifically says that. Move Michigan St. into the Orange and Ohio St. into the 3 unattached major bowls.