The second amendment

atlkvb

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So God really does not care what goes on down here
He absolutely cares sammy!!! Matter of fact he cares so much he sent his only begotten Son here to free us from the wages of our choices to Sin...eternal Spiritual Death! It was a FREE GIFT he's offering to each of us which won't bring us any harm, but free us from the pain, sorrow, misery, ugliness, hopelessness, and horrors of Sin! He promised he's coming back to make sure all who accept that gift are justly rewarded.

What do you do when someone offers you a free gift sammy? Reject it and get mad them, or accept it and Thank them? 🤔

@sammyk (aka "wimpy")
I may not be ready to accept Christ's free gift, however for the luxury of a hamburger today I might accept that gift next Tuesday?

The nice thing about that free gift wimpy...unlike free hamburgers... you can get it anytime, and it lasts forever! ;)
 
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30CAT

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fentanyl and guns by themselves are no more dangerous than the other.

Bull$h!t. Fentanyl killed a 19-month old baby at an Airbnb, because previous tenants used. I have never seen a report where an infant (or anyone for that matter) was killed by unseen traces of gun residue at an Airbnb.
 

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But the braindead Trumptard on TV stated that there is nothing you can do to stop these shootings

There is.

1) Remove the gun free zones that have no teeth
2) Allow teachers to conceal carry if they're permitted and desire to.
3) Armed SRO's in every school. More than one if it is a large school.
 

atlkvb

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There is.

1) Remove the gun free zones that have no teeth
2) Allow teachers to conceal carry if they're permitted and desire to.
3) Armed SRO's in every school. More than one if it is a large school.
Common sense. Nut jobs and criminals are immediately neutralized by armed opposition.
(ditto for oppressive regimes)
 

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There is.

1) Remove the gun free zones that have no teeth
2) Allow teachers to conceal carry if they're permitted and desire to.
3) Armed SRO's in every school. More than one if it is a large school.
Send your kids to a private school that believes in the 2nd amendment .
 

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Of course there hasn't been any violence. Because there isn't any role players like Ray Epps there inciting it. Obviously protesting Capitol buildings is ok again.


 

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Maybe you should explain to your kids what's actually going on instead of allowing them to skip school to be used as a pawn in a Color Revolution.
 

atlkvb

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Lame response. Typical.
Imagine the audacity to think that the absolutely critical yet perfectly strategic positioning of the planet relative to our nearest star (the Sun... 93 million miles away) is all just by accident? Two miles closer to it as we rotate around the Sun we'd all be burned to a crisp. Two miles further away from its warming ultraviolet rays we'd all freeze to death!

Yet we travel through boundless, limitless space at the precise aperture from the Sun that we can exist comfortably here on Earth, both protected by its warmth and shielded from its harmful and even fatal ultra violet rays. Or consider the miracle of gravity...and how it invisibly yet forcefully keeps everything firmly on the surface of the planet as it spins at roughly 1,000 mph on its axis with nothing flying off into outer space?

Still more amazing is in nothing we can physically observe in either the cosmos or the creation is it ever duplicated! NEVER. No two exact same things of anything we (humans) didn't or can't make! Not even human beings! Each one of us is unique, with a unique DNA identifier, fingerprints, eye retinas, even facial images! Each one different from another, one of a kind, and in unlimited number! Same with animals, same with fish, same with birds, same with Stars, same with whole Galaxies.... even down to the pebbles of sand on a beach. (under a microscope, you'll never find any two granules of sand exactly alike ever... same with snowflakes!)

Imagine, all of that marvelous, miraculous, unique, creation in virtually unlimited combinations, and nothing ever, duplicated...nor can it be! That's only among the things we can see. There are unseen things, microbes, pathogens, and submicroscopic atoms too tiny for the naked human eye to see with the same unique uncopied characteristics.

Imagine the audacity to think that's all by accident and not the magnificent, omniscient, intelligent as well as unlimited mastery of a master Creator? Yes, there is someone who very much cares what happens to us. Look at all the attention that was paid to everything else?

Our magnificent blue marble



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Earth revolves around the Sun at a rate of about 67,000 miles per hour (107,000 km/hr or nearly 30 km/s). At the same time, Earth rotates around its axis at about 1,000 miles per hour (460 m/s or 1,600 km/hr). However, this speed varies because different points on Earth cover various distances within 24 hours. Some regions must travel faster than others. The equator, for example, has a circumference of about 24,901 miles (40,075 km), which needs to be covered in one day. On the other hand, a point at the North Pole simply spins in its place and can be considered nearly at rest.
 
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Gunny46

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The 1st Amendment also under attack.




The hearing — held to examine the Biden administration's alleged collusion with Big Tech to violate First Amendment rights — featured testimony from Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, Sen. Eric Schmitt, formerly Missouri's attorney general, and the former Missouri deputy attorney general for special litigation, D. John Sauer.

Weaponization hearing devolves into chaos as Democrat shouts at Republicans over witness testimony​

 

dave

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Darkness does not exist. It is the absence of light.

Cold does not exist. Cold is the absence of heat generated from energy.

Evil does not exist. Evil is the absence go God.

God cares and when people choose to do as he wishes evil cannot stand.
 

atlkvb

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Darkness does not exist. It is the absence of light.

Cold does not exist. Cold is the absence of heat generated from energy.

Evil does not exist. Evil is the absence go God.

God cares and when people choose to do as he wishes evil cannot stand.
 

SoCo

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You truly are one ignorant bleater.

Show me one source that shows by merely touching a firearm can kill you.

Touching Fentanyl can kill you.

Fentanyl kills you, people or not.

Ipso facto.
Yep, I'm sure belater is the first thing everyone here thinks when I post.

If a person touches a firearm in the wrong place while it is aimed at them, they can die. I can't beleive you actually posted that.

Fentanyl doesn't kill anyone. People kill people.
 

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Yep, I'm sure belater is the first thing everyone here thinks when I post.

If a person touches a firearm in the wrong place while it is aimed at them, they can die. I can't beleive you actually posted that.

Fentanyl doesn't kill anyone. People kill people.

Are you arguing to make Fentanyl legal for recreational use?
 

SoCo

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Well the Cartels and Gangs have both and bad intentions. You want Biden to stop enabling them and do something?
There you go again. I didn't say anything about cartels or gangs. Or Biden.

I am doing nothing more than mocking your stupid logic.
 

dave

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Yep, I'm sure belater is the first thing everyone here thinks when I post.

If a person touches a firearm in the wrong place while it is aimed at them, they can die. I can't beleive you actually posted that.

Fentanyl doesn't kill anyone. People kill people.
It's not a great logical argument. Fentanyl gets hidden in other substances and kills people. Fentanyl has killed first responders when an overdose victim throws up onto them and causes a reaction.

A gun can kill people just as dead but the gun isn't hidden mixed with heroin.
 

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If a person touches a firearm in the wrong place while it is aimed at them, they can die

LOL!

Can you remove a firearm from a room and its unseen trace amounts of it kill you? Absolutely not. It takes irresponsibility, mental issues or carelessness for a firearm to kill someone. A firearm is merely a tool.

Can you remove Fentanyl from a room and its unseen trace amounts of it kill you? Absolutely. Just being in a room, hotel room, restaurant, Airbnb, public restroom...etc where Fentanyl was Can kill you. Fentanyl is a illegal and deadly drug.

Stop trying to compare Fentanyl to firearms. You look foolish

And I apologize for calling you a bleater, especially if you're not one.

That was uncalled for and I should not have made the assumption.
 
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SoCo

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It's not a great logical argument. Fentanyl gets hidden in other substances and kills people. Fentanyl has killed first responders when an overdose victim throws up onto them and causes a reaction.

A gun can kill people just as dead but the gun isn't hidden mixed with heroin.
Fentanyl, like a firearm, isn't dangerous until a human gets involved. Fentanyl can even cause a death by accident, just like a firearm.

Fentanyl doesn't kill herion users. Herion users kill herioin users.

It is a stupid argument. No inanimate object kills someone without human involvement. I guess there may be an exception somehwere.
 

dave

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Fentanyl, like a firearm, isn't dangerous until a human gets involved. Fentanyl can even cause a death by accident, just like a firearm.

Fentanyl doesn't kill herion users. Herion users kill herioin users.
That is all true. It is a tool or in some cases a weapon of death.
 

SoCo

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LOL!

Can you remove a firearm from a room and its unseen trace amounts of it kill you? Absolutely not. It takes irresponsibility, mental issues or carelessness for a firearm to kill someone. A firearm is merely a tool.

Can you remove Fentanyl from a room and its unseen trace amounts of it kill you? Absolutely. Just being in a room, hotel room, restaurant, Airbnb, public restroom...etc where Fentanyl was Can kill you. Fentanyl is a illegal and deadly drug.

Stop trying to compare Fentanyl to firearms. You look foolish

And I apologize for calling you a bleater, especially if you're not one.

That was uncalled for and I should not have made the assumption.
Right, a human exposed another to fenatnyl which caused a death. Much like a human uising a firearm to casue a death. Neither are deadly without human involvement.
 

atlkvb

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That is all true. It is a tool or in some cases a weapon of death.
I'm just having a hard time following the ultimate logic of the argument? Since people kill people (using guns or Fentanyl or whatever) is SoCo saying it makes no sense to blame those things? Or is he saying since it's people doing the killing using those things, why not just limit or restrict the use of those things so they won't/can't use them to kill folks?

Either way, people are the "X" factor in the argument, and unless you change their behavior against killing, it doesn't matter if you take away the guns or Fentanyl. They'll still kill each other, they'll just use something else!
 

dave

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I'm just having a hard time following the ultimate logic of the argument? Since people kill people (using guns or Fentanyl or whatever) is SoCo saying it makes no sense to blame those things? Or is he saying since it's people doing the killing using those things, why not just limit or restrict the use of those things so they won't/can't use them to kill folks?

Either way, people are the "X" factor in the argument, and unless you change their behavior against killing, it doesn't matter if you take away the guns or Fentanyl. They'll still kill each other, they'll just use something else!
He is saying guns and fentanyl are both deadly and bad. He isn't wrong.
 

atlkvb

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He is saying guns and fentanyl are both deadly and bad. He isn't wrong.
Agreed. All I'm trying to understand is if he thinks banning them ends "people killing people"? Sounds to me he's attacking the logic of NOT banning guns and forgetting about Fentanyl because as long as folks take it, some will die? Sounds like he's arguing unless you're willing to restrict folk's access to either, more will die?
 

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He is saying guns and fentanyl are both deadly and bad. He isn't wrong.

I disagree. Fentanyl is deadly. Guns are immorally deadly in sick and evil people's hands. Guns also have many positive aspects that Fentanyl can never acquire.
 

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He is saying guns and fentanyl are both deadly and bad. He isn't wrong.

Fentanyl is dangerous in hands of anyone but a Doctor. It's also being used as a Chemical Weapon against us. Guns are deadly in the hands of Criminals and Insane evil people.
 
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atlkvb

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I disagree. Fentanyl is deadly. Guns are immorally deadly in sick and evil people's hands. Guns also have many positive aspects that Fentanyl can never acquire.
For that matter you can say the same thing about Fire. It can kill you, or heat you. Cook your food, or destroy your home. We don't "ban" the use of Fire, but we do control how it's used.

You can't say that about Fentanyl. What are it's "useful" controlled purposes? All I understand about it is how addictive it is and how deadly it can be in the wrong quantities.
 

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I disagree. Fentanyl is deadly. Guns are immorally deadly in sick and evil people's hands. Guns also have many positive aspects that Fentanyl can never acquire.

Next thing you know they will want to castrate all the men to prevent future rape. Instead of holding the rapist accountable.
 

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Right, a human exposed another to fenatnyl which caused a death. Much like a human uising a firearm to casue a death. Neither are deadly without human involvement.

Two rooms. One that stores firearms and one that stores Fentanyl. You are forced to enter one of the two. Which do you choose?

Are you afraid to walk into a Cabela's for fear of being killed by firearms?
 

30CAT

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He is saying guns and fentanyl are both deadly and bad. He isn't wrong.

Wholeheartedly disagree and they aren't comparable.

Compare Fentanyl deaths to murder by guns.

Go a step further and compare Fentanyl deaths to murder by AR-15s.

Go a step further and compare Fentanyl deaths to murder, accidental or suicide by AR-15s.

Let's single AR-15s out because the left claims banning that weapon will cure the mass shooting issues.

Go even further and compare Fentanyl deaths to deaths by any gun for any reason

Apples and oranges. Ridiculous to make such a comparison.

Fentanyl has already killed more people than COVID-19 in the same time period.
 
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4h·
This is one of those graphics that speaks volumes, to all who care to listen.

America has never had a ‘gun problem’ - we have a problem with refusing to recognize root causes, because such recognition has been made culturally/socially unfashionable.