the short-lived Cotton District Cafe, what happened?

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he was in pharmaceutical sales, and didnt live in starkville......more like a side business for him.....their thing was that they never used frozen wings....alwasy fresh....they were good too....

but him not being there all the time cost him the business, they were stealing him blind..
 

uhhct1

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is because its in middle of bum-17 Egypt aka the highlands and Starkville cops make it priority to look for drunk folks cruising around.
 

opieT

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I had eaten at the CDC a couple of times and the food wasn't bad, but I could see it struggled during the summer. During the Fall I expected the food business would pick up, especially during football season. It doesn't make sense to close right before the busiest time.
 

Big Elly 901

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I agree completely with you mcfly,

In a bar like CDC was and Mugshots is, alcohol is a lagniappe...it's not paying bills, it pays bonuses. I imagine rent in the Cotton District is ridiculous and the volume of
alcohol you'd have to sell would have to be redonkulous to make it strictly
on majority alcohol sales. It got me thinking about actual numbers an this is what I came up with...

A bottled beer (domestic) bought from Mitchell Dist, Clark Beverage or Better Brands costs .77 cents. A keg of Bud Light costs $91 and contains 140 beers which puts it at .65 cents a mug.

A fifth of house whiskey is gonna cost you $9. If you pour 1.5 ounces of whiskey per drink you get roughly 17 drinks out of a bottle. Which is basically .53 cents at cost per drink.

So broken down, if you sell a bud light bottle for 2.50 it's a 31% food cost, a 12 oz bud light draft for $2.00 is a 33% food cost, a house whiskey and coke sold for $3.50 is a 16% food cost. Liquor is where it's at, no doubt. I think this is why Mugshots is so successful. I bet they go through 30 bottles of whiskey on a busy night, but let's say they only go through 20. At $3.50 a drink that would be 1190.00 in sales minus $100 is people ordering doubles and bartenders giving away drinks (it's inevitable) that gives you $1000 in sales on just whiskey. If you look at beer, if you sell a keg in one night, you only make about $180 a keg. If you sell 10 cases of bud light, you only make $415...assuming everything gets rung up.

The problem is, restaurants in Starkville only sell in this quantity for maybe 40-50 nights a year. When you're open for lunch and not selling much alcohol at all, you have to rely on your food. Labor costs put more restaurant owners out of business because it's not justafied to even open your doors in you are only doing $500 from 11-5. That means after food costs you're only putting $350 in your accout and that plus a lot more is coming out to pay utilites and labor. CDC had crappy food, that's why they failed.

Any bar and grill restaurant has to run as close to a 30% food cost as possible to succeed. You have to sell food to make it, especially in Starkville, MS. If your food sucks, it doesn't matter how much alcohol you sell....you will fail. Think of the most successful restaurants in the Golden Triangle and what do they all have in common....good food. I wish I could say the same about service in most of these restaurants, but I'd by lying if I did....but good food with below average service will pay bills.

Relying strictly on alcohol will not 9 times out of 10. The Flying Saucer is one of the few bars that I know that probably doesn't sell nothing for food that is successful in the relative traveling area.

Food is where restaurants make ends meat, liquor + food is where a restaurant bank rolls. Liquor is the cherry on top. But you can't have a sundae with only a cherry.
 

Big Elly 901

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<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">found this on their facebook from a month ago...desperation. I hate it for them. I hate seeing people go out of business. It's sad, but predictable.
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<h6 class="uiStreamMessage">Cotton District Cafe
we need your voice what do you want from the biggest bar in the Cotton
District what matters more to you? Drink Specials? Patio? Pool Table? we
wanna know how you feel tell us now!!!! Your voice means everything at
this moment...this is so important to us do you want a bar? or a
restaruant? your call your voice matters vote now....tell us what you
think
</h6><span class="uiStreamSource"><abbr title="Wednesday, July 21, 2010 at 10:47pm" class="timestamp">about a month ago</abbr></span>
 

mcfly.sixpack

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if you can hit a 25-30% food cost and sell consistent good food you can make it as a restaurant. With a space as big as the cdc it would be impossible to sell enough liquor and beer to keep it running. I believe the rent on that building is roughly $3000 a month so you do the math. Plus the place had the weirdest atmosphere a mix between dance club and sports bar which I never understood.
 

MaverickAG

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I may be reading too much into this and I was not a business major but what I gather from that is two things: 1. They banked on a bad concept. Some market research would likely have shown that relying on pure alcohol sales was not a recipe for success. Perhaps they were relying on their other business's profits to make up for their shortfall. In any case, not a good recipe for success and because of such they 2. are trying to become too much to too many people. As a result you get dance club types mixed with frat guys mixed with people looking for a good beer which then results in no one because the first group doesn't want to be around the second group and so on.<div>
</div><div>In any case, I hope they can get it together.</div>
 

bulldogbaja

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I actually ate there a bunch of times. The wings were great and I really wanted it to succeed. The problem was, it was probably the most poorly managed restaurant I've ever been in. They were always out of food. I usually went there with the wife, who only likes boneless wings. Guess what? They never had boneless wings. If they did, then they were out of fries. One time I went and they were open, but basically not serving any food because they were out of the little paper bowls. Talk about a waste of time. Why not just drive to walmart and buy a stack of paper plates? At least then you can make SOME money.