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The Stans/ Renardo Sydney dilema

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clydefrazier

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I have heard/read about Stans giving Sydney slack because if he doesnt have basketball, he will struggle in life. Agreed, but by not requiring the same from him as the other players, all he has done is stall his failure for three years.

Shame on Stans for not requiring this kid to be in shape, not talking about decathlon shape, but basketball shape. If he didn't follow rules and requirements you set, get rid of him. By looking the other way and not being a coach with a backbone, he has very little respect from his team and a 5 star McDonalds All American that is a huge liability on D and is getting about 10% of his potential on offense. He hurts the team in the long run. Your the freaking coach making big money, you had this guy on campus for 15 months before his first game and he couldnt play more than 5 minutes? 15 months later, a little better, but not much. Where is the accountability from the head coach? Where is the discipline? </p>
 
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drunkernhelldawg

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Starting with not knowing how to spell Sidney's name, you don't know what you are talking about. If all that were required for success was treating all the same, life would be as simple as your idea of it.

"Shame on Stans"? Are you some kind of school marm? What "kids" are you referring to? Did you mistake us for a PeeWee league team? What do you know about Sidney's conditioning program? Are you actually saying that Stans and ouir staff made no effort to help Sidney get into condition? The truth is that neither you nor any other fan on this board has any idea what is behind Sidney's conditioning struggle. i don't believe that laziness and inattention from our staff are even minor factors You end by saying that there is no discipline or accountability within our team or our coaches. That is just silly, as "Moultrie knee" and other incidents have shown. The lack of accountability is with yours and others spout offs of total ******** and absurd assumptions.
 
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clydefrazier

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And if they did and the player doesnt follow their directions, do you reward him? I do happen to know something about his "conditioning" and Stans is getting paid to be in charge and he has let the player decide the final results. Absurd assumptions? Is a 5 star center an out of shape defensive liability who cant make it up and down the court? Pretty much a fact not an assumption.
I would have " assumed" Mullen would have said go through Balis's program and report at a certain weight our you sit. Not Stans.
 
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mstateglfr

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No matter how i try, they cant be motivated to do more. And by more, i mean only do all the required parts of their job. Not even complete all the parts, but even try to get to all the parts.

Nothing short of threatening to fire them would work. And that isnt good since its a terrible motivator beyond the short term and also because they are solid employees overall, in spite of their refusal to do everything they are supposed to.

So what happens? This is exactly like Sidney.

You can suggest they train. You can suggest they try new approaches. But ultimately they have to want this for themselves. At this point, 3 years in, you know what he is good for and you can gameplan with that knowledge.
 
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BlankStare

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Re-evaluate him for the player he is, plan and use him according, and quit banging their heads against the wall because he's not the "basketball deity" that some expected. (Warning, I went all "RebelBruiser" on this post)

Apparently, a large part of the MSU fanbase was expecting the equivalent of a 6'10" point-guard/center with the ability to reject a shot, hustle the rebound, lead a one-man fastbreak (leaving a trail of broken ankles behind him), and then slam it home with an authority that hasn't been seen since "NBA Jam" debuted at the nearest Noah's arcade....
(**Disclaimer: Yes, i am facetiously exaggerating his expectations, but judging by some people's vehement disdain for Sidney, I must not be exaggerating by much.**)

Reality check..... He's a large, physically-imposing center with moderate athleticism, yet some pretty impressive (but not phenomenal) touch with the ball for a center. That's a pretty good pick-up in my book. He didn't pan out as some had hoped, but that **** happens all the time. I guess since he was supposed to be an NBA draft pick out of highschool that people considered him to already be an NBA All-Star caliber player...Not so fast my friend, back then the NBA was strongly basing draft picks on potential. For every Kobe or Garnett, there were numerous players like Kwame Brown, Darius Miles, Sebastian Telfair and....wait for it.....Jonathan Bender.

In my opinion, Sidney isn't really that fat, if fat at all. In fact, I think he looks pretty solid, especially for a 6'10" center. I know that I have seen far fatter centers, yet there wasn't any of the discussion about "It's pathetic that he refuses to lose weight" However, I think his face looks fat as 17, and for those afflicted with tunnel vision, an optical illusion is created and they see Fat Albert playing center for MSU.

For MSU comparison, I think his build is comparable to Mario Austin's build when he was at State (I'm basing this purely off my bad memory, so I may be completely wrong). For a comical MSU comparison, when Renardo and Elgin Bailey made national news headlines, they looked to be pretty close to the same size by video account (sans a few inches for Sid), yet Bailey had recently lost a ton of weight garnering him endless praise by MSU fans.

That last sentence leads me to wonder if some people are so upset with Sidney's off-the-court antics that anything less than National Player of the Year for will leave them unsatisfied.
 
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