The War on the Shore - NT v. LA
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Just listened to it. It is as you say.
Can't wait until they come to Loyola next year...or maybe we'll see them in the playoffs this year.
Forget the apology. I really don't care if he offers one or not.
Love how he said that kids go to New Trier because of the academics first, and football second The fact that a NT education is free apparently has nothing to do with the 4,000 kids who go there.
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There are some other gems in the podcast, he basically infers that the rain delay was the reason they lost, as they came out flat
He also bemoans his lack of depth and his inability to play two platoon football.
Coach last I checked, you have a student population of over 4k and are one of the largest high schools in the state, depth shouldn't be an issue
He also bemoans his lack of depth and his inability to play two platoon football.
Coach last I checked, you have a student population of over 4k and are one of the largest high schools in the state, depth shouldn't be an issue
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Average ACT from 2017 at LA - 27.5 / New Trier 27.8 ............I think those must be pretty smart football players !
Wow. That is inexcusable behavior by a coach. Imagine what he says about other schools that are not nearly on Loyola's level academically (and financially). Typical behavior of someone from that area. He needs to be a better leader of young men and set a good example.
Don't know how accurate this is, but Maxpreps lists 178 players on the NT varsity roster. http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/new-trier-trevians-(winnetka,il)/football/roster.htm
The New Trier website lists 85 players on the varsity roster, only one of whom is not a junior or senior. https://www.trevianschedule.org/pub...enie/124/school/124/agl/268/1/199/rschool/124
Overstated.
I see no controversy in his comments. Boys do attend LA to play football - and there's nothing to apologize for that. Plenty of kids inch their way into the NT district for a variety of reasons, football not one of the primary reasons at the moment.
Also, NT lost their best back early - game has a different dynamic if he's in.
Hopefully, the rivalry game continues.
I see no controversy in his comments. Boys do attend LA to play football - and there's nothing to apologize for that. Plenty of kids inch their way into the NT district for a variety of reasons, football not one of the primary reasons at the moment.
Also, NT lost their best back early - game has a different dynamic if he's in.
Hopefully, the rivalry game continues.
You don’t think kids go to Loyola just for football? Of course they do. Education is also very good there but when you come from all these different areas and zip codes you have to realize they go there for some reason and in many cases kids do go to Loyola for football first. And yes they are recruited to go there. Loyola does a great job getting great players to attend. He also says they were a very good team and that the weather is where they lost momentum. He didn’t blame the outcome on weather.
ramblinman:
Nor do I.
I sat (stood, rather) through the hour-and-a-half delay at NT last Friday and was a bit concerned it was only 7-0 when the officials suspended play. Naturally, my anxiety revolved around whether the delay would soothe the inflamed passions which accompany a rivalry as heated as this. I am happy to say I was wrong; and I loved every minute of the game.
His remark is intended as a broadside.
I took a glance at the hype surrounding his hire a few years back, and have to say it was, as with everything else New Trier, overblown. After I read the original post by moebias, I contacted a neighbor who is familiar with the program and its past three coaches. The neighbor reminded me the current NT coach was passed over twice for the head coaching job when it opened after Mortier stepped down over a decade ago. According to this neighbor of mine, the current coach threw a tantrum after being passed over a second time. Perhaps the previous ADs were onto something about the current coach.
Since this man was hired in 2014, NT has gone 10-2, with a quarterfinal round loss to Stevenson; 9-2 in 2015, with a second-round blowout loss to HF; 8-3 in 2016, with a second-round loss to STCN; and went 6-4 in 2017, with a first-round loss to neighboring LA.
New Trier's football program is actually going in reverse under the coach in question. In fact, what NT fans are witnessing is their football program turning into a slow-motion car wreck.
NT's coach couldn't use the "recruitment" dodge, so he went on a fishing expedition. For this person to have the unremitting gall to utter such words as LA is forsaking academics for athletic interests is a mortifying display of passionate illogic, but an illogic invoked in the immediate wake of a humiliating loss. One can always harbor grudges, and you can threaten and seek vengeance for even the most minor of perceived slights, but for this man to suggest LA has sacrificed academics at the altar of football is a smear and not factually based.
What should have been dinner table conversation has now reached a large audience, some of whom are LA coaches, athletes, and future athletes. What this NT coach revealed, besides a badly wounded ego, was the fact he places little value in the art of refined communication.
I delight in reminding readers, including NT's coach, LA enrolls roughly 2,100 students. NT enrolls over 4,000. Despite the febrile cry of hurt over injuries, and endlessly bemoaning the loss of a starting RB, NT boasts twice the enrollment at LA, and LA's second-string QB shredded NT's secondary for four touchdown passes and over 200 yards passing.
When you find yourself in a hole, you should stop digging.
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Disagree on it being overstated. He is diminishing the accomplishments of Loyola student-athletes and taking a swipe at them. He is also making excuses for his own players. And, further, he is wrong. Most students attend New Trier because it is the school in their district, it is a well-rounded school and free. If they really put academics first, they'd attend Latin or some elite boarding school.
Mike Clark of the Trib is on record as saying that the NT coach is the one who pursued this game. If true, then perhaps he was thinking that a W or another close L vs Loyola would assuage the so easily bruised psyche of the NT fan base should that slow motion car wreck continue this year.
BTW, can you imagine John Hoerster or John Holecek ever taking a post game verbal swipe like that at another opponent?
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The comments are counter intuitive and illogical. Running clock next year, boys!
Just listened to it. What a punk. Weird how NT was the only team that experienced a rain delay.
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Doll would have gone Bat spit crazy if he coached either warren or Glenbard North. Sheesh
ramblinman:
No, not in the least. Both men are joined by numerous other coaches in Illinois whom exercise restraint following a loss. I am not sure if this NT coach holds a deep loathing for LA, he is simply dense, or this is who he really is, but judging by his 1-1 record and having MS on the schedule and perhaps two other likely losses, he is facing a 5-4 season.
Should they go 5-4, it fits rather nicely into my narrative NT's football fortunes are declining and resemble the slow-motion car wreck I described in my previous post.
Incivility toward a neighborhood rival is not the kind of temperament you want in a head football coach.
Whoa, slow down there Mwittman. NT is 1-1. Lost to a perennial state finalist which most in the area wouldn't want to face that early or at all. 5-4???? really? I can see 8-1 possibly or 7-2, but 5-4 won't happen. What other 3 teams do you see them losing too? York is better than advertised as noticed in their week 2 win. It's only week 3. interested to see how all the csl south teams fair in the next few weeks?
Will be a typical New Trier. Go 6-3, 7-2. Win a playoff game and lose in round two. Wonder if they get smoked by Maine South or a good public school if their coach will whine after that one too.
evanston:
5-4 is a possibility. Why should it not? Are you suggesting NT will rebound from the season-crushing injuries the Trevians have suffered? According to NT's coach, any delay in a game saps momentum from his players, NT, a school of over 4,000, struggles with depth, and he appears to be plagued with poor weather conditions.
On top of this self-serving mantra, NT's coach has the temerity to say: "I'm the only coach willing to play it," when asked how the game with LA came about. This is soooooooo New Trier: It reveals the NT coach as believing himself sui generis (look it up).
As far as their schedule, I saw York won one week after NT escaped with a win. NT has MS remaining, a likely loss. NT also has Palatine, Fremd, and Evanston, all three of which could be losses.
Who knows? Perhaps you are right, and NT will go 8-1, defeat MS, brush aside LA in the playoffs, and win the 8A title. However, the rationale of my prediction of a possible 5-4 record for the Trevians is based solely on his comments in which he described the dire consequences NT's football team faces.
NT will go 8-1, provided it's 80 and sunny for the remainder of its games.