The Xavier v. Cincy Fight - Couple of thoughts

[dawgatUSM]

[list type=decimal][*]It's a shame. No way they should act like that, and I don't care how heated a rivalry is.[*]It looked like Xavier players started the fight, but Cincy escalated it.[*]Cincinatti at least took responsibility for what they did, and how they are embarrassed for themselves and their university. Xavier, on the other hand, their coaches, players, or administration hasn't said one thing to reprimand the actions, and I think that is detestable. If anything, the XU players tried to defend their actions afterwards, and I think that's sickening.[/list]<div><div>
</div><div>Soapbox over.</div> </div>

 

[dawgatUSM]

[list type=decimal][*]It's a shame. No way they should act like that, and I don't care how heated a rivalry is.[*]It looked like Xavier players started the fight, but Cincy escalated it.[*]Cincinatti at least took responsibility for what they did, and how they are embarrassed for themselves and their university. Xavier, on the other hand, their coaches, players, or administration hasn't said one thing to reprimand the actions, and I think that is detestable. If anything, the XU players tried to defend their actions afterwards, and I think that's sickening.[/list]<div><div>
</div><div>Soapbox over.</div> </div>

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

I watched the post-game interview with two of the Xavier players and one of the players admitted to taunting the Cincy bench after the game because he was disrespected on twitter. Are you 17ing kidding me?It reminds me of the NBA mentality and if that ever spills over into college basketball I will quit watching it as well.

 

[BulldogBasher]

I watched the post-game interview with two of the Xavier players and one of the players admitted to taunting the Cincy bench after the game because he was disrespected on twitter. Are you 17ing kidding me?It reminds me of the NBA mentality and if that ever spills over into college basketball I will quit watching it as well.

...you're joking right? What if players from the same team start fighting in the stands? Will you stop watching then as well? The NBA mentality is ingrained in these kids early on. I can't believe you just said that.

 

[Faustdog]

Why so people react so differently to fights in basketball than they do to fights in baseball or hockey?<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

having the mentality and to answer your question, yes. I will stop watching college basketball if players stop playing defense and give only a minimal effort like a majority of regular season NBA players/games. The brawl in Detroit a few years back did me in along with players like Iverson.College basketball is very competitive and nothing compares to March Madness even if situations arise like the Hawaii episode, which is inexcusable. But please don't try to insinuate that college and the NBA are similar in any regard.

 

[Eureka Dog]

The hockey players face each other and go toe-to-toe. One-on-one in front of everybody.

Review what #34 and # 13 did.

#34 sucker-punched Frease and immediately ran away. Then, his teammate, #13, kicks Frease while he's woozy on the floor. #34 and #13 defined themselves as cowards, cheapshot artists,and non-qualifiers to be called true men.They're both males, but neither is a true man.

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[mstateglfr]

Why so people react so differently to fights in basketball than they do to fights in baseball or hockey?<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>

I find all brawling in sports to be pathetic.
There is no reason to have it in baseball...that is about the least physical(you versus the opponent) game there is.
And fighting in hockey is just stupid. It adds nothing to the game. Its a defenseless part of the game.

 

[dogfan96]

but doesn't actually watch it. You just grabbed a bunch of false generalizations about the NBA and regurgitated them

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

Many recent reports claim that the NBA fan base is declining. Citing lack of ticket sales and big spenders unwilling to buy luxury suites in some of the NBA arenas. I do not have the data because I'm too lazy to look it up, but it's probably easy to find if we want to research fan base "trends" so we can distinguish between your so called generalizations and cold hard facts.</p>

 

[drunkernhelldawg]

Don't just spout off; know what you're talking about. Talk about what you know.

 

[jakldawg]

in the NBA back in the "good old days," but things like Kermit Washington putting Rudy Tomjonavich in the hospital, along with a more star-oriented league changed that. There's still some decent early 80's skirmishes like Dr. J and Larry Bird going at it. Can you even imagine the histrionics and hand-wringing that would happen today if two superstars went at it?

 

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Really?

 

[AssEndDawg]

Why so people react so differently to fights in basketball than they do to fights in baseball or hockey?<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>

The fights in Baseball and Hockey are actually part of the game. They have unwritten rules around them and they happen for a reason. Basketball fights seem to happen because of people mouthing off and just losing control. It's chaotic and unpredictable and people generally don't like that. You have certain expectations when you watch a sport, you expect rules to be followed. When you turn on the TV and you see a pitcher throw a ball at a batter you know that if he does it again someone is charging the mound. When you watch hockey and you see one guy taking shots on vulnerable guys that he's building up toward a fight. But those fights generally have rules. When someone hits the ground in hockey the fight is over. When the coaches and umpires make it to the mound in baseball the fight is over.

Fights in basketball tend to be brawls. There are people running everywhere, throwing cheap shots, slamming people down. They ignore the refs and continue trying to get in cheap shots. You don't see a teammate come flying in from the side in a hockey fight. I know you really wanted the answer to be racism, but I don't believe it is.

 

[thatsbaseball]

nm

 

[dogfan96]

at least basketball fights usually happen for a "good" reason.. baseball fights happen because some ***** got offended because a guy flipped the bat or looked at him the wrong way.. or bunted when he wasn't supposed to... Then the pitcher proceeds to throw at him or another guy and then it's on. That's the epitome of bitchassedness. And they hide behind the "unwritten rules". %%$$ that weak excuse. Basketball fights usually happen because of some physical confrontation between guys in close proximity pushing, grabbing, bumping each other.

 

[dogfan96]

relative to the other major sports, fighting in basketball is MUCH less frequent. Baseball players fight more and they rarely have any physical contact during the game, other pitchers being bitches and throwing at people.

 

[hatfieldms]

It is ok to fight in baseball and hockey, but thuggish in basketball might be one of the more idiotic arguments I have seen on this board and that is saying something. I think the Klan hoods are cutting off air to some of your brains

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

As I stated earlier, there is a difference between wanting to be in the NBA and having the NBA mentality once the small percentage of college players reach that point. NBA attendance numbers have declined over the past 3 years with as much as a 12% decline in attendance since 08-09.' The business insider as an article about this on-line from last season if you care to look it up.</p><div style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; TEXT-ALIGN: left; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff; COLOR: #000000; OVERFLOW: hidden; BORDER-TOP: medium none; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; TEXT-DECORATION: none"></div>

 

[jakldawg]

during a 20-point win, and then having your superstar yell something like "this is my city" (with some F-bombs thrown in) to the opponents bench his last two trips down the court not qualify as breaking some sort of unwritten rules in basketball? <div>
</div><div>(and just in case anyone's interested)</div><div>here's video of Kenny Frease recovering from getting stomped by going after some UC fans @ 1:30.</div>

 

[mstateglfr]

Why so people react so differently to fights in basketball than they do to fights in baseball or hockey?<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div>

The fights in Baseball and Hockey are actually part of the game. They have unwritten rules around them and they happen for a reason. Basketball fights seem to happen because of people mouthing off and just losing control. It's chaotic and unpredictable and people generally don't like that. You have certain expectations when you watch a sport, you expect rules to be followed. When you turn on the TV and you see a pitcher throw a ball at a batter you know that if he does it again someone is charging the mound. When you watch hockey and you see one guy taking shots on vulnerable guys that he's building up toward a fight. But those fights generally have rules. When someone hits the ground in hockey the fight is over. When the coaches and umpires make it to the mound in baseball the fight is over.

Fights in basketball tend to be brawls. There are people running everywhere, throwing cheap shots, slamming people down. They ignore the refs and continue trying to get in cheap shots. You don't see a teammate come flying in from the side in a hockey fight. I know you really wanted the answer to be racism, but I don't believe it is.

Baseball fights have a purpose? What?

What purpose is there in hockey? The rules could easily declare no fighting and auto suspensions for those that fight, and nothing would be taken away from the game. Thats because fighting doesn't add anything to the game. It makes for entertainment, but adds nothing.

I like that you mention fights in basketball tend to be brawls. WTF are baseball fights then? Entire benches clear and a scrum ensues. You don't think that is a brawl?
Bad points, guy.

 

[BulldogBasher]

In baseball and hockey, there are clearly defined "unwritten rules" to the fights. No sucker punches, no kicking guys in the head while they're down, no throwing chairs at one another, no ignoring refs/umpires, and no attacking fans. I cannot remember a single baseball or hockey fight where fans' safety was in danger. Basketball fights get out of control, and people are in very real danger. By the way, the thug that kicked the Xavier player while he was down deserves to be kicked out off the team. Don't try to compare the two, you 17'n morons.

 

[patdog]

By the way, the thug that kicked the Xavier player while he was down deserves to be kicked out off the team.

I'd say this guy not only deserves to be kicked off the team, he deserves to spendsome timein jail for aggrevated assault.

 

[jakldawg]

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[mstateglfr]

In baseball and hockey, there are clearly defined "unwritten rules" to the fights. No sucker punches, no kicking guys in the head while they're down, no throwing chairs at one another, no ignoring refs/umpires, and no attacking fans. I cannot remember a single baseball or hockey fight where fans' safety was in danger. Basketball fights get out of control, and people are in very real danger. By the way, the thug that kicked the Xavier player while he was down deserves to be kicked out off the team. Don't try to compare the two, you 17'n morons.

What in the he'll are 'clearly defined unwritten rules'? That has to be the funniest comment in this thread. They are unwritten, but clearly defined. WHERE? Where are they clearly defined? They must be written to be clearly defined...these are pro leagues...they define everything.

Fan safety isn't even on my radar here. That isn't even being considered. Fighting in hockey and baseball add nothing at all to the game. Nothing. There isn't a reason within the game to allow fights to happen.
Fights in football must be banned. Fights in basketball must be banned. Fights in baseball must be banned. Fights in hockey must be banned.
Fighting adds nothing to the game. It isn't part of the game and so it shouldn't be tolerated.

Hockey fights are just brutal to watch because they are completely unnecessary. Two dudes throw off their gloves and glide around in a circle taunting while refs are all right next to them allowing the fight to build up and eventually happen. Why? WTF for? Just toss the offender in the penalty box and get back to playing.
Baseball fights are hilarious to me because they are flat out brawls and happen in one of the least contact sports around. Two teams can go an entire 4 hour game and never make contact with anyone from the other team, yet entire benches clear at the drop of a bat. And it's accepted! It's not part of the game. It doesn't add anything.

That Cincy player should be tossed, I agree.

 

[Skink]

declare 'I don't care if he ain't got no feet.'"

Sincerely, Ty Cobb

"And I would never lower myself to be thuggish enough to hit a helmetless catcher in the head with a bat."

Sincerely, Juan Marichal

 

[AssEndDawg]

or you are +%@@%$$ retarded. If you can't understand what we are saying I'm voting retarded.

 

[jakldawg]

Gates/Ellis/Mbodj get 6 games<div>Guyn gets one.</div><div>I expected more, especially from Gates (the human windmill) and Mbodj (the stomper).</div><div>
</div><div>X pres conf. later today. Expect fireworks from the most gangsta of Jesuit liberal arts colleges.</div><div>Zip 'em up.</div>

 

[KurtRambis4]

me that someone has no idea what they're talking about when discussing the nba, is when they mention "no defense."

 

[jethreauxdawg]

In the press conference one player said they had a locker room full of gangsters. What kind of leadership do you have on that team? It's one thing to be hot headed on the court, but to go to the press conference and continue tobe an embarassement to you university is worse. Of course nothing they did was more embarrasing than watching two teammates fight over nachos, while wearing wife beaters,after a game at a certain holiday tournament.

 

[eurotrash]

Some Chinese bball team found out last year while playing Georgetown. Or did the Chinese win?

 

[BulldogBasher]

***. Complete thuggery on both sides if you saw that fight. The Chinese were actually worse.

 

[mstateglfr]

It's not that throwing punches adds oohing to any of the listed sports, it's that I am either not a sports fan or my mental capacity is legally below the level of consent.

You got me man, you got me.

All you have said in defense of fighting in sports where it adds oohing to the game is that it's done because fans won't get hurt and because there are clearly defined unwritten rules.
And I'm the one who isn't smart enough to sign legal documents?

 

[eurotrash]

in this country.