There's a New QB in Town...
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The kid looked good and at least deserves a chance to play. Our offense seems to come alive when the kid is on the field for whatever reason. Who knows why? We need wins and we need the guy that gives us the best chance at winning some games the rest of the year.
I think he should start the next game, he came in when it looked bad and stayed calm and led the offense, he should start, he never froze like Drew has been doing.
That doesn't mean he's not good. But nice start. It remains to be seen where it goes. Making a pronouncement either way now is pretty ridiculous.
I don't know if he is good or not. Start him next week and let's find out. Now Snell is the real deal.
Yeah I mean Lindsey Wilson could've put up 50 against that New Mexico St. defense. I'll reserve my judgment. He got tossed around like a rag doll and looked like a NAIA quarterback against Florida last week. I do like him over Barker at this point, if nothing else for the fact that when he's in the game it seems like the coaches use more of his running ability and we use more of the read-option offense which really opens up the passing game. I liked what I saw from him but with as bad as the defense is we're not going to be able to score 60 points against any other teams besides maybe Austin Peay. I mean our defense is one of, if not the worst in UK history, it's that bad. I mean we struggled to get by New Mexico State tonight..even in a game where you'd think we'd come out and try to hammer them considering the way we played the first two weeks. Nothing I saw tonight makes me any more hopeful for this season. We continue to make the same mistakes over and over and over and our coaches look even more lost than usual.
Johnson DID look good. Against NMSU. I would feel better if he looked that good against an SEC team.
I think that would be a stretch.
I think that would be a stretch.
I feel like half our fans should just start pulling for UL. Yes, we played a bad team and yes, our D gave up a lot of points. But Johnson looked far better against a bad team than any QB we've had in a long time has looked against any other bad team. That alone should be something we should be HAPPY about, not bitching about. UK football fans have had a hard time lately, but bitching about a back-up QB looking good against a non-power 5 opponent makes us look even worse than we should.
Glad we got a win but we played a very bad team. Going to be a lot tougher game next weekend.
Agreed. I think he brings more to the table and is tougher to gameplay for at this time.
Exactly, they are absolutely terrible. It's unfortunate but Kentucky, Kansas, and Rutgers are the worst P5 programs in the country. We spotted a C-USA team 25 points and still lost. I understand people trying to find enjoyment but giving up 42 points to that team is embarrassing.
UTEP beat NM state 38-22. Army just beat UTEP 66-14. Our defense has some serious issues.
You (and others) were way too optimistic about this team in the off season. Don't make the same mistake with Johnson now. Let it play out.
you have to go with the mojo. Like the hot hand in basketball.
SJ has some good feelings going into SC, lets see what he does.
Barker probably shouldn't have played anyway today after that beat down in the swamp and starting off 0-2.
I would have started SJ if for no other reason than to get Barker back on track with some good old fashioned pine riding.
SJ seemed to have a natural flow. A smoothness and confidence, and I think the squad picked up on that and clicked with it.
SJ has some good feelings going into SC, lets see what he does.
Barker probably shouldn't have played anyway today after that beat down in the swamp and starting off 0-2.
I would have started SJ if for no other reason than to get Barker back on track with some good old fashioned pine riding.
SJ seemed to have a natural flow. A smoothness and confidence, and I think the squad picked up on that and clicked with it.
Way too early to say Johnson's 'the man'. He didn't look any better than Barker did the first half against a much better USM. He looked really, really good. Against an awful defense. Made some plays Barker couldn't. Has potential, perhaps, to be pretty decent. However, I look at yesterday's game about like the Blue/White game. Discount everything you see.
If he has a similar game vs. USC, I'll believe it then. But, NMSU was awful on defense and that has to be accounted for.
Glad we won and he played really well when we needed it. I'm still not convinced a healthy Barker doesn't also move the ball up and down the field at will.
If he has a similar game vs. USC, I'll believe it then. But, NMSU was awful on defense and that has to be accounted for.
Glad we won and he played really well when we needed it. I'm still not convinced a healthy Barker doesn't also move the ball up and down the field at will.
Johnson looked good and played with poise, leading KY to the second most yardage total ever in the history of KY football. That says something, in and of itself. It appeared the team responded to him. Hopefully, he will learn and grow from this game, moving forward to prove he can play well against SEC teams, regardless of whether he starts or comes in as a change-of-pace, different look.
One thing I noticed at the Blue-White game about him, while going against our #1 defense (the best we have), was that he is capable of accurately throwing on the run. Very few quarterbacks can do this at any level. I like seeing him rolling out, after play action, and looking for receivers. If nobody is open, he can tuck and go with it. He seems comfortable looking for receivers without panic and I sense our receivers know this.
One thing I noticed at the Blue-White game about him, while going against our #1 defense (the best we have), was that he is capable of accurately throwing on the run. Very few quarterbacks can do this at any level. I like seeing him rolling out, after play action, and looking for receivers. If nobody is open, he can tuck and go with it. He seems comfortable looking for receivers without panic and I sense our receivers know this.
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You sir are a dumbass. I think you see the reason Gran and Hinshaw were recruiting Johnson to Cinncinati. He IS a good QB, if you can't see that, even if it was against NMSU, you are just blinded by hate or frustration of the way this season is started, or some other thing has your panties in a wad.
But so what if those yards came after the catch on short passes, ala Tim Couch. That's the way the play was designed dumbass, not every play is a damn go route to throw it deep!
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Johnson had a good game. New Mexico State is terrible. It is what it is.
Some of his stats are deceiving in that roughly 70 of his passing yards came on a play in which he merely had to throw it 5 yards to a wide open Conrad, who proceeded to break some tackles and run it the distance. That play could not happen against any SEC opponent. Tates Creek's QB could make that throw.
I think we should start Johnson over Barker at this point. He gives us a better chance. Albeit still a very, very small chance to win a game against a team that doesn't suck royally.
Some of his stats are deceiving in that roughly 70 of his passing yards came on a play in which he merely had to throw it 5 yards to a wide open Conrad, who proceeded to break some tackles and run it the distance. That play could not happen against any SEC opponent. Tates Creek's QB could make that throw.
I think we should start Johnson over Barker at this point. He gives us a better chance. Albeit still a very, very small chance to win a game against a team that doesn't suck royally.
Gotta go with Johnson. Yes NMSU defense is probably on the level of a high school team, but truth be told Barker could've easily lost that game yesterday with another pick or two.
While SMU would beat us as well. They play in Dallas and haven't made their way on our schedule as of yet. USM is the fighting Brett Favres out of Hattiesburg.
Some of it will depend on Barker's health. If I was betting, I'd say Johnson will start and Barker will be available in an emergency situation. You never want injuries, but it may have worked out for Gran and co that way because they can roll with Johnson now and not be second guessed about it.
The biggest difference with Johnson is that the defense has to account for all 11 guys now. This was the type of offense I imagined Gran running here. You can see why they have recruited the DT QBs. Johnson is really good at running RPOs.
Our RBs are our best position. Johnson at QB allows us to use them even more. We need to pound Boom and Snell exactly like we did yesterday. Run the RPOs and get the ball to Conrad and our WRs when the DBs are giving a 7 yard cushion. Johnson did a good job of seeing that and just getting the ball out very quickly.
I know NMSU is a bad team. But our offense put up 62 points and close to 700 yards. That's what you're supposed to do against bad teams.
Roll with Johnson from here on out.
The biggest difference with Johnson is that the defense has to account for all 11 guys now. This was the type of offense I imagined Gran running here. You can see why they have recruited the DT QBs. Johnson is really good at running RPOs.
Our RBs are our best position. Johnson at QB allows us to use them even more. We need to pound Boom and Snell exactly like we did yesterday. Run the RPOs and get the ball to Conrad and our WRs when the DBs are giving a 7 yard cushion. Johnson did a good job of seeing that and just getting the ball out very quickly.
I know NMSU is a bad team. But our offense put up 62 points and close to 700 yards. That's what you're supposed to do against bad teams.
Roll with Johnson from here on out.
Sorry, but where did you get that G & H were recruiting SJ to Cincy? Had never heard that. Cincy had/has plenty of QB's.
G & H were recruiting Gunnar Hoak to UC before he committed to UK. As far as I know, Hinshaw didn't look at SJ till H came to UK & we were short QB's due to Towles leaving. Regardless, good thing we have SJ.
Thanks.
Offense played pretty darn well against a team we should play well against.
On the other hand, the defense really stunk the place up against a team we should have shutout or perhaps allowed a score or two in the later stages of the game when a decent defense with a big lead against a weak team substitutes freely.
Our defense is as bad as I've seen since the Marvin Major teams of the Mumme Era. Perhaps even worse.
The Elliot/Stoops defenses during the entire Stoops have been weak fundamentally. And, unfortunately, the trend in defensive fundamentals seems to be on a downward trajectory.
On the other hand, the defense really stunk the place up against a team we should have shutout or perhaps allowed a score or two in the later stages of the game when a decent defense with a big lead against a weak team substitutes freely.
Our defense is as bad as I've seen since the Marvin Major teams of the Mumme Era. Perhaps even worse.
The Elliot/Stoops defenses during the entire Stoops have been weak fundamentally. And, unfortunately, the trend in defensive fundamentals seems to be on a downward trajectory.
I am by all accounts not a sunshine pumper. But regardless of the level of competition he was playing against. He did nothing but put the ball where it needs to be. Every single pass he made, was thrown in the window it needed to be thrown in. The deep ball down middle of field he had, the receiver had a DB draped all over him didn't even have a qrtr of a step on the DB. And the pass, with that kind of coverage, couldn't have been thrown better. Those type of plays are all the same regardless of competition. Our offensive line I'm convinced can't keep pressure off a QB vs some KY high school teams. So the pressure is going to get much worse for Johnson as the competition steps up. But when he had pressure, he always seemed to be able to scramble away and make plays with his feet. He looked very calm and collective. I love the dual threat he gives us and if he keeps utilizing the TE we might have an up and coming offensive power. MIGHT. After that performance, no way should we not play him. Feed him while he's hot.
You never know what some players capabilities are. Some players regardless of the competition they play against just always show up. He needs to show more than just this one game obviously. But he truly looked like a player very confident in his abilities and not rattled in any way, shape, or form. He looked like a ball player. Some players just handle the moment better than others. His JC tape was very impressive to say the least. And sometimes players have a very easy time transitioning because they just have a certain poise about them that can't be coached. He looked like a ball player. I still think we suck and that our defense is putrid and stoopid stoops needs to be fired. But I liked what I saw from Johnson. A lot. If he plays a great game vs USC. Then we might have caught lightning in a bottle. He's gonna get hit in the face eventually, that has yet to happen. He's certainly going to next week (assuming he starts). Let's see how he responds.
Needless to say. What I saw from Johnson and Snell is so far the first and only things to excite me this season. Besides that we're a dumpster fire.
You never know what some players capabilities are. Some players regardless of the competition they play against just always show up. He needs to show more than just this one game obviously. But he truly looked like a player very confident in his abilities and not rattled in any way, shape, or form. He looked like a ball player. Some players just handle the moment better than others. His JC tape was very impressive to say the least. And sometimes players have a very easy time transitioning because they just have a certain poise about them that can't be coached. He looked like a ball player. I still think we suck and that our defense is putrid and stoopid stoops needs to be fired. But I liked what I saw from Johnson. A lot. If he plays a great game vs USC. Then we might have caught lightning in a bottle. He's gonna get hit in the face eventually, that has yet to happen. He's certainly going to next week (assuming he starts). Let's see how he responds.
Needless to say. What I saw from Johnson and Snell is so far the first and only things to excite me this season. Besides that we're a dumpster fire.
I think that the use of the tight ends has been in Gran's game plan all along, but Barker has not even looked for the tight end in the first two games and most likely would not have looked for a throw to a tight end against NMSU either.
I also think that Barker telegraphed to the defenses who he was going to throw to without going through his progressions. While everyone wants to blame the OL, how come they blocked for Johnson and not Barker?
Considering the players obviously want Johnson to start this week, I wonder how they will react if Barker starts against the Gamecocks.
I also think that Barker telegraphed to the defenses who he was going to throw to without going through his progressions. While everyone wants to blame the OL, how come they blocked for Johnson and not Barker?
Considering the players obviously want Johnson to start this week, I wonder how they will react if Barker starts against the Gamecocks.
I was, I freely admit that, and I've recently been as hard on Stoops and this "team" as anybody else here, but let's not be ignorant. What he did wasn't easy, regardless of opponent.
I don't know if he's the QB of the future, I won't proclaim that he is, but I think he's the best option for THIS team.