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triton28

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In 2006, two years before we fired Croom, I came to the board as a user named HUD4coach to tell u guys about a young D2 from my 1a academy high school team. A guy named Hudspeth that we needed to get, because Croom wasn't getting it done, and no one good will stay here. I tried everything I knew to do to let you guys know that this guys is special, and you weren't having it.


Basically, you guys told me I was an idiot, made a badass Bruce almighty fark, told me he wasn't qualified, never would be, and that SLY was building a program, no need to fire him.


So we hire Mullen, the greatest offensive coordinator in the country, and our ninja hired underqualified HUD at the same time, from D2


two years later, HUD left to go on to become the only assistant coach on this staff to successfully advance. Some of you idiots even said good riddance. In his first year at Lafayette, he was in the mix for national coach of the year for a long time, with the biggest of the big names


Mullen has done **** here. And I have watched him lose every close game we have been in by making horrible decisions. So I created triton 28 to try and let you guys know. You know what y'all said, he doesn't have a chance to compete in this division, it's too tough. He's doing good, bowls bowls bowls! All the while, I was trying to drive home the point that one of the new premier up and comers was from 28 miles away and wants to be here. No No. Our Yankee is the man, best coach in the country, just ask him.


then you guys showed your collective stupidity by offering your list of potential candidates if Mullen left, lets look at your list shall we.


1. Manny Diaz- this board told me he wAs way more qualified than Hud to be the head coach at mississippi state
2. Chris Wilson- because he is badass
3. Most recently, Collins, mind you this suggestion was made before the season started, but it's collins


Everything I have done on a message board, has been out of my desire to see state become the best it can be, but if you aren't for yourself, you aren't gonna succeed. Let me remind you that hud4coach told you 7 years ago, that we needed to hire this young d2 guy, and he will be here forever, but I stressed the urgency of keeping him out of Oxford.


7 years later, we are the laughing stock of the country, our coach nor his wife no when to shut up, we were told to expect national championships, now we are told if you expect better, pony up on the assistants. We have no quarterback, we claim the state, and we ran our mouth nationally about the best player in college football being paid, all while having no true evidence of ****. What a joke.


So my question for the board is, now that Hud has made UL a more nationally recognized program than state, taken them to their first bowls in thirty years, and is poised to receive an offer from an LSU or someone like that, are you guys still right?


which of Diaz, Wilson, or Collins needs to be our new head coach? Those coaching errors I was telling you about three years ago get fixed? Is that D2 guy still unqualified? You know the 1a academy ball guy?


congrats on the new stadium. You have truly become the Larry templeton of fans. I decided to follow hudspeth instead of state, and I watch my team win, and we expect our coach to beat our opponents. Our coach came in and raised the money to make our worst sunbelt school in the country look like sec facilities in one year. Your coach needs more money to make your sec team not look like a sunbelt team.


So now that Hugh freeze has Mullen by the balls, and a sunbelt guy has shown u guys how to build a championship program at ole miss, what say you. Wanna know what I would do? Finally realize that there are people out there who are smarter than you, and listen to them.


when espn gets our name wrong, it's not because we get no respect, it's because we suck.


when the country thinks we are ole miss,it's because they have more history than us, no one is regarded as shittier than us with the exception of Kentucky or vandy(maybe)


when we are listed as a terrible team, preseason, and our coach is listed on the hot seat, it's not cause he is awesome, and we know something no one else knows, it's because we suck and everyone else knows something we don't.


we we have terrible recruiting classes, it's not cause we are good enough to coach guys up, it's cause they don't wanna play for Mullen. Likely because he will rat the, out if they cross him.


ive been to Atlanta, i remember the feeling of winning, and I am gonna go back, maybe not with state, but with HUD. over on the other board, coach34 with all his cred uses a win like Alcorn to discuss how creative we can be,, bla bla bla. Where is the title. Year five, talk the talk, walk the walk. Put up or shut up. Coach 34 picked up to finish 3rd behind Bama and LSU. He also picked ole miss to finish last of course and open 1-6.


All I have done is prove that you guys have been wrong the entire time, and it's not too late, but it almost is.


Open your eyes people. I will talk to you guys in five years or so, can't wait to see where we are then.


Triton28
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if you wanna see what we could have been seven years ago, just look north, to ole miss, Who will compete for the west this year with a girls basketball coach (+1moral victory). Good day.
 

horshack.sixpack

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"Everything I have done on a message board...". If "doing" things on message boards changed football programs, it would make the CFB world very interesting. And you changed allegiances because people didn't support your ideas on a message board? And you still use "we" to describe you and ULL and "we" to describe you and MSU in the same post. I don't suspect many people do that...
 

uptowndawg

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Congrats on being a Hud fan

But you really need to consider not taking message boards so seriously.
 

triton28

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Until HUD passes us, which will be soon, I will say we. I hold out hope that maybe state still gets him. But I am not oneof you. I am a realist. You can't fool me with smoke and mirrors, and big talk. And as far as what you can do on a message board goes, I got on a message board because I knew about someone special and wanted them to be recognized. Looks like it worked. Think smarter.
 

Sutterkane

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Congrats on starting 1-2 with a win over Nichols State. Hud is really showing his dominance. You're so vindicated, bro.

I don't know where you got the idea that people here thought Croom was building anything. Honestly, most people on this board saw the writing on the wall after Maine. I challenge you to find posts that state that people thought Croom was building something at State that wasn't endlessly ridiculed or 200% sarcastic.

Hudspeth wasn't qualified then, just like Freeze wasn't qualified then either. Both are qualified at this point (obviously Freeze is) to be head coaches in division 1. ****, in 2006 Mullen probably wasn't qualified yet. He was still a QB coach and hadn't won a national title at Florida.
 

Joe Schmedlap

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Hudspeth is number one on my list to replace Dan. The problem is - we are likely two seasons away from making a new head coach hire. Will Mark Hudspeth be available in two years? As much as I realize the pisspoor job Mullen has done recently, you cannot fire a man after one bad season at Mize State. We made what looked like a good choice when we hired Dan Mullen. He was certainly more attractive "at that time" than a Mark Hudspeth. Mark has since paid his dues and progressed to head coach level. He will get a shot at a major school in due time. I'd love for that school to be Mississippi State. Once again though, we are two years away. Could we pay Coach Hudspeth $850k to return as offensive coordinator and associate head coach? The proverbial "coach in waiting"? I would love to see that happen, and yet that wouldn't necessarily be the best professional move for either Mark or Dan. Plus, there might be ego clashes to boot.
 

triton28

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Ole miss disagrees. If the people stand up, you don't have to wait for political correctness to pass before rebuilding. Think smarter
 

triton28

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My post is about you. If you want HUD, do something about it. Unite. It works. Make it happen. Take control of the ship.
 

dawgstudent

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It's easier to stand up when you come off a 4 win season. Trust me - there will be more outcries if we win 4 this season and struggle at the beginning of next season.
 

triton28

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And it will be too late DS. Your message board will be stronger if we win. I found out about you in 99. Ever think about the ability you have from where you sit? Crazy stuff man.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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I am still waiting for this season to end before I agree we need to change coaches. We still have to see if Dan is willing to learn and adjust as a coach.

I have yet to see a coach in today's football who was able to call every shot correctly right out of the gate. I think even Saban had a few rough years and lost some games.

IF we do changes coaches, I am in the minority that does not want Hud. I would rather have someone with zero previous ties to MSU. No ties to the cigar boys or LT realm.

I am sure I would be immediately shouted down should we go down this road to the tune of, "We can get anybody we want once we git rid of Dan!"

Rick Ray approves.**
 

Joe Schmedlap

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Ole Miss and Nutt were a different situation. Nutt had completely lost his team and were absolutely horrific Nutt's last two seasons. M State has yet to be horrible under Dan Mullen, merely mediocre to slightly bad with no signs of creativity. That's my opinion, anyway.
 

triton28

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What you just said: I want someone who will either suck, or be good and jump us as soon as the next best thing comes along. Someone with ties here needs to go away.
 

triton28

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Keep fighting it DS. Your boy Diaz is available. My years may be off, and I may look dumb on message boards, but I want what's best for MSU, and I see a chance for it. But all the people of power need to come together, make it happen. I just looked at the other board, they are ready to make it happen, and I've never posted there, this board needs to get there. Everyone reads this ****. Who is our Archie Manning? Is it sherrill? Wyatt? They probably both read the board. New day. No one wants an empty stadium.
 

dawgstudent

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How is Diaz my boy? If Mullen is let go, Hudspeth is my first choice. Just I am not ready to let Mullen go.
 

triton28

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Gotta unite the fan base. Let people of influence know, hey we are here and here is what we want. It's ok. Let Mullen go, he never has to work again, he wins, deep down, I promise you he isn't happy here anyway. You don't think a guy like Matt Wyatt or Jackie Sherrill is smart enough to see what's going on here? There are 1000 people looking at this forum right now. Everyone of them knows different people, but people like the board admins have to unite as well, make it a damn known fact. If I have to look at freaking scaffolding in the end zone for three years, I'm ready to do it. Buy this joke out. Who is our Archie. We could determine that, and then tell that person what we want. We are the money.
 

dawgstudent

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I did. Your last sentence eliminated Hudspeth. And rumor for Hudspeth - this is his dream job. So he wouldn't necessarily leave for the next best thing. So you eliminated him two times in your post. And let me reiterate - I would love for Hudspeth to be our next coach when/if Mullen is fired or leaves.

I'm all for us being a stepping stone school. That means we are winning. I'm just confused where you say you are a Hudspeth fan but you have pointed out two things that don't fit Hudspeth's credentials.

And I assume you followed Hudspeth after he left in 2010. So you quit on Mississippi State after a 9-4 season and beating Michigan 52-14 in the Gator Bowl.
 
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Maroonlegacy

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What's going on in here? You forgot to take your meds again didn't you triton28? I kid, I kid. You have been a Hud guy from day 1, I'll give you that.
Like many on here (outside of triton), I jumped on the HUD train late. Unlike many on here, I was on the Mullen Sucks D train early. Anybody with half a brain could see Mullen was/is a joke of a coach.
Mullen's MO -Talk a big game, schedule 6 games versus the Sisters of the Poor, behind the scenes try like hell to get out of Starkville (this is a damn fact, he would have crawled to Happy Valley if offered), when nobody wants you (because you stink) act like you turned the big boys down because you are "building something special at State." Give me a freaking break.
What's funny is its all rainbows and butterflies when Ole Miss sucks. But let Ole Miss get a real coach, pass our program in the blink of an eye, and all of a sudden all the zombies that blindly follow Mullen start to wake the F up.

I agree with triton in that we cant sit back and just let stuff happen. "Oh, we are stuck with Mullen for 2 more years at least." Screw that. Demand better. Let's make our voices heard. A good coach can make all the difference in the world, I don't give a damn what the name of the school is. After we win 4 games this year, and get destroyed by Ole Miss, SS needs to be on a plane the very next day to see Hud, work the deal out, and send Mullen's *** packing. The alternative would be to wait around for 2 more years like a bunch of freaking sheep, sink deeper into mediocrity, and watch Ole Miss continue to rise all because "we are State and we can't fire a coach after 1 bad season." I've been saying it for 3 years, its time to wake up and demand better.
 

gtowndawg

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I'm not saying I want to buy Mullen out...yet....BUT

can anyone clarify what the buyout would be? I've seen anything from 1.6 million to 6 million. I want facts, not guesses or assumptions.
 

DAWG61

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Jesus dude you've been lurking in the shadows for two years just waiting to push your Hud ********. We lost the lead AT AUBURN with 10 seconds left. For almost 3 quarters State was the better team. The only change that needs to be made is at the OC position.
 

triton28

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DS, the post begins with, what you just said and I was referring to the other poster. come on man why are you so in bed with Mullen. Earlier today I saw a discussion on your board about what we consider success and if we are. Success is when you don't have to start a thread about whether we are successful. Look what's happening at state. Is it just bowls with you? It's ok if it is, bowls are fun, but Ole miss is a loss now, and killing us in recruiting, it's getting harder to suck and still go to bowls, then when you get to the bowl, you wanna win it? A good athletic director can swag up a program and get what we want by scheduling without spending millions on a coach. What do you want DS. Mullen said this is our state. It's not. Do you see national championships as he said, cause that's what I was going for, not state championship. Thats not cause i think state is a nc contender, but because thats whAt my coach said. Hugh freeze said they were gonna suck last year. Smart guy. Your board is gonna be fire Dan all season, you might as well acknowledge that at least.
 

triton28

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Would you acknowledge that I simply had the privilege of being at the right place at the right time? I saw a winner. That has now been proven, so there is no such thing as HUD bs. I claimed him as my coach for a while in high school, everyone at Winston, the tiny school, knew HUD was gonna make it big, I was just the dumbass that thought posting his résumé to thousands of people the only way I knew how, would help promote him. Lurking in the shadows, living an adult life, same thing. I let go way before y'all. But it's happening slowly, needs to speed up though. That tiny school advanced in every way because of that dude.
 

wayneland5025

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We lost the game to Auburn, that is what matters. It is even worse when it is done with only seconds left. We are trying to have a coach who can win games that he leads with one minute left and the opponent 80 yards away from scoring, right?
 

triton28

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Congrats to you, bro, on your 1-2 start with one win over Alcorn. Nichols state would skull 17 Alcorn. Congrats on last in the west, maybe next to last, ahead of Arkansas, who HUD should have obviously beaten, according to you. Are you saying UL sucks and we are good? Sorry HUD isn't undefeated. And yes, man my ego is so big right now, thanks. Yet, now, then, bla bla bla, HUD is still qualified, obviously, Mullen still isn't, obviously. Wake up.
 

Maroonlegacy

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At Auburn? Auburn won 3 games last year. They are pathetic. Everybody in the entire country knew when Mullen elected to punt on 4th and 2, we were cooked. I looked at my buddy and said, at a minimum we are going to OT. If you want to win on the road in the SEC you gotta take it. Don't give the ball back to Malzhan's offense. Keep the ball. Go for the 2 yards. Take the win. We were getting 5 yards a run on the read option keep.
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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Gotta unite the fan base. Let people of influence know, hey we are here and here is what we want. It's ok. Let Mullen go, he never has to work again, he wins, deep down, I promise you he isn't happy here anyway. You don't think a guy like Matt Wyatt or Jackie Sherrill is smart enough to see what's going on here? There are 1000 people looking at this forum right now. Everyone of them knows different people, but people like the board admins have to unite as well, make it a damn known fact. If I have to look at freaking scaffolding in the end zone for three years, I'm ready to do it. Buy this joke out. Who is our Archie. We could determine that, and then tell that person what we want. We are the money.

Sounds like we need some of that mass communicatin'

 

dannyripms

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are you serious? "We only lost to auburn", auburn shouldn't even of been in the game in the fourth quarter. if you can see that we have regressed the past 2 years your blind. im all for hiring hud, fire dan now.
 

triton28

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Question, what does a guy who bleeds maroon expect? If we could go back, there have been threads about expectations, and they were larger than this, I can assure you.
 

triton28

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It's not cool to have triton on your side, but it's nice to see there are still people with sight. Tell your friends.
 

Maroonlegacy

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I've got a plan. Lets keep Mullen because we are State and not being the laughing stock of the SEC is good enough. And we can hope that Texas hires Freeze. .......Wait, if that happens Ole Miss will probably hire HUD. Never-mind. I'll keep brainstorming and come up with something.