Totally agree. Isn’t that a penalty if the players do it? At least in the NFL it is, right?
Things to ponder following 2OT loss to Oregon
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Rankings are useless this early. They’re a holdover from a the pre-portal era when returning starters meant something.
The portal really confuses team quality because there’s an ability to lose lots of starters and replace them with guys who are as good or better.
No way that poll voters can know that so these rankings mean nothing.
Amazing, isn’t it?! Some might say Penn State was lucky to score 2 late TDs after literally doing nothing for 50 minutes.
Or, some could argue that Franklin is getting more out of lesser players that don’t quit on him? There’s a million different ways to look at it. We look at it from an “inside” perspective. The outside perspective may be different.
Personally love loud music. At 58, I’m losing my hearing because I crank the volume. The “production” part of the game is far and away the worst part of the game experience. No pun intended, complaints about this fall on deaf ears. Has anybody ever heard a positive comment on the subject?
I have and there's certainly a little bit of that involved but he's also done a terrible job in his 3 years starting of throwing guys open as well as not locking on to the primary target. His TD throw was a gem. The throw to KLS vs WVU was a gem. The rainbow to Evans vs MSU at Ford Field was perfect. The sling into traffic vs Villanova is the stuff we like to see. But those are exceptions rather than norms. And yes, that's on coaching just as much as it is the player.
Not obviously wrong ... this could be a wake-up call ... for everyone. They played lackluster through 3 early season easy wins. At least the offense played horribly the first 3 quarters last night ... things went from frustratingly at a stalemate, to being completely down in the dumps REAL fast. They didn't fold. The guys responded and came up huge. We ultimately fell, and that could have been the result of being worn out from carrying too much of the load early on ... but the kids all battled hard in the end.
This could be the kick in the *** everyone needs. OSU lost to friggin crappy Michigan at the end of last regular season. Everyone counted them out. Then they responded by running the table.
Let's see if this energizes the troops (and their generals). Or maybe they quickly slide into mediocrity, feeling sorry for themselves. TBD. I think they respond and whoop up on OSU.
I understand the frustration with him given the picks (yesterday and ND) but look at scheme and how we're using him. He's not going to look great in this offense because it doesn't play to his strengths. When we stop the nonsense and gimmicks he's fine. He should NEVER run a zone read or read pitch...the fact those are in our playback is asinine.
I think it's 90% on the coaching limiting him and not putting him in position to succeed which is why I think he should have transferred if he was going to forego entering the draft.
I do think you're wrong about locking onto his primary target. He's one of the best I've seen at going through progressions but he rarely has time to do so.
The pass to Dinkins that went for 16 is what NFL scouts want. The throw he made when he slipped was something half of the NFL starters can't do. He's not a finished product because we aren't coaching him effectively.
Watch Josh Allen as a rookie with the Bills. They literally had to teach him basics. Drew isn't Allen but it's going to be the same think. He just needs a good OC and QB coach.
That’s his MO and it’s been that way since he became the starter.
I see so many comments about how bad our WRs are and it does look like sometimes they aren’t going 100%, but it does have to be frustrating to constantly get a 1/2 step or 1 or 2 steps on a DB and the ball never gets thrown your way.
It's not incompetence.....it's by B1G design. In the eyes of the B1G, PSU is a Tier 4 conference stepchild and is on the receiving end of pre-orchestrated officiating especially when playing teams like OSU, Michigan, USC, Oregon etc (B1G favorites). Rutgers is a Tier 5 stepchild.
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In the first OT, Oregon tried to set up a screen to their left, we had it covered so he scrambled a bit and threw to the right, for a big gain. A few OL were 5 yards downfield to block for the screen pass, should have been a penalty b there as well.
Just watched it. They had a lineman 1.5 to 2 yards downfield, and no one else was past the line. They were good.
My 2 takeaways are that Kotelnicki is not up to standard for a top 10 team. It's not just play calling it's schemes. Oregon OC was able to scheme easy 1st down plays every time on 4th down. AK? Uh. No. Last night we looked like a Joe team. The only misdirection was the jet sweeps. Almost all of the presnap motion vanished leaving a very vanilla offense.
I agree we should've ran in the 2nd OT, but Drew's throw was fine. It was just a beat late, which allowed the LB to get out there. It might've been a TD if he throws it on time. That's allar tho. He holds it a bit too long a lot.
I agree we should've ran in the 2nd OT, but Drew's throw was fine. It was just a beat late, which allowed the LB to get out there. It might've been a TD if he throws it on time. That's allar tho. He holds it a bit too long a lot.
A few more things. It seemed like Dawkins got manhandled a lot last night. Hudson had a bad drop immediately followed by a lazy half assed block on a WR screen. Unacceptable.
It's because it's a senior-loaded team. The assumption is that an experienced team of upper classmen is going to push around the competition.
Exactly what I would've done as an opposing HC.
I have to believe it's what anyone would've done.
No, he stinks.
He goes down to initial contact constantly. No power. No elusiveness. He never displays any agility. Never makes cuts. Never seems to have any vision. Just takes the ball, runs the play exactly as it's designed, and goes down.
He had no business getting 11 carries in that game, and that very well could have been the difference.
FWIW, Oregon lined up for 8 4th downs last night and converted 5 of them (with one penalty then punt). We lined up for 3 and converted all 3.
It’s what Villanova, FIU, and Nevada did even though they were completely overmatched. It’s what every other team on the schedule will do unless they are stupid or if their secondary is trash (UCLA, MSU maybe).
Some interesting parallels of the PSU and Eagles games. Both were out gained by their opponents by wide margins. However, the Eagkes made the plays to win their game. I wonder why that was the case.
They finished +2 on Turnovers and got a blocked punt for a Touchdown. Those are things that don't show up in the yardage but will greatly swing a game.
There is a reason Hudson was the #5 WR in the USC rotation last year.
these two are related. He’s playing to his audience and is brilliantly recruiting his but off and the team is channeling their immature, punk coach.
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U forgot the pick at end of big ten champ game. 2nd and one I think running it well forces into well covered spot. Thats him.
Need to be more than 3 yards downfield when the QB releases it to be a penalty.
They got an easy draw. Not a top 4 team. ~10-12.
His vision and ability to be elusive is poor and he is tackled too easily.