This baseball team is garbage.

GhostOfJackie

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They are strike out machines and boring to watch. We just made midweek pitching from a 1-6 Southland team look like All-Americans. Now I know why Andy was sexting in the dugout.
 

klong-dog

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Lmao appreciate that laugh. I needed it after keeping up with the final couple innings.
 

Oldman.sixpack

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Calling this team, or any of our teams, garbage is childish and unnecessary. Give them a chance. Basketball team turned things around.
 

BulldogBlitz

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Whatever you do don’t go to ED
They make this place seem like Swan Lake at times.

I do a scan of the other two forums every 2 years or so. All three forums had about 75% of the exact same posts .. Titles and all.
 

HumpDawgy

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Henderson better crank this machine up if he wants to keep the skipper hat full time.
 

maroonmania

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Calling this team, or any of our teams, garbage is childish and unnecessary. Give them a chance. Basketball team turned things around.

I agree that its way too early to start labeling a team like that , however, I would advise all MSU fans, in order to avoid significant disappointment, that you keep your expectations for this team low, very low. Likely going to be a very rough year to be opening a brand new ball park.
 

HumpDawgy

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Agree. SEC play is not going to be pretty unless some of these players wake up.

When you bring back your ace pitcher, Mangum, Stovall, and a couple guys who you thought would step up nicely as starters (Vansau and Macnamee) as well as having a healthier pitching staff and some new studs that Cann was supposed to bring in, I was expecting better.
 

SyonaraStanz

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Agree. SEC play is not going to be pretty unless some of these players wake up.

When you bring back your ace pitcher, Mangum, Stovall, and a couple guys who you thought would step up nicely as starters (Vansau and Macnamee) as well as having a healthier pitching staff and some new studs that Cann was supposed to bring in, I was expecting better.

I don't understand why Pilk is frequently labelled the "ace" and probable first rounder (you didn't say this, but I've read it numerous times). His stats are decent, but he struggled a lot last year getting through the lineups a second time. He seems overhyped to me.
 

HumpDawgy

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I don't understand why Pilk is frequently labelled the "ace" and probable first rounder (you didn't say this, but I've read it numerous times). His stats are decent, but he struggled a lot last year getting through the lineups a second time. He seems overhyped to me.

Because last year he had the second lowest ERA among all pitchers (3.08...Price, our closer, was tops with 2.91), the most wins with 8, and the most Ks with 111. I'm not saying those are earth shattering numbers, but he was the best starting pitcher on the team that had a pretty good season. Yes, that guy is your ace going into this season. He has a 2.00 ERA so far this year, so I don't see an issue yet.
 

philduckworth

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Pitching is going to have to save us until the young bats come around. KP needs to pitch like the ace that he is. I think Small is going to continue to get better the more he steps on the mound-he has pro stuff. I would like to see France move to the 3 spot. He has looked good and Billingsley would strengthen our bullpen. I trust James and Blake Smith out of the pen as well. And of course Riley Self as long as he is 100%. So that's 7 good arms that can be trusted in a 3 game series.

Position wise, Foscue at 3B, Hatcher at 1B, Mangum in CF, and Stovall at 2B should be written in with a permanent marker.

I would like to see Gilbert in there at C everyday. Corner OF spots, I would like to see Jordan Anderson and Tanner Allen out there. And then go righty/lefty at DH with Vansau and Mac. I would still roll with LA at SS.
 

5049

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Pitching is going to have to save us until the young bats come around. KP needs to pitch like the ace that he is. I think Small is going to continue to get better the more he steps on the mound-he has pro stuff. I would like to see France move to the 3 spot. He has looked good and Billingsley would strengthen our bullpen. I trust James and Blake Smith out of the pen as well. And of course Riley Self as long as he is 100%. So that's 7 good arms that can be trusted in a 3 game series.
Pitching should have been a strength, but for whatever reason, Pilkington is not as electric as he was last year and in the fall. Small and James are just now getting back into the swing of things, so you cannot expect perfection there. We really didn't think we'd have to lean on them, but Billingsley and Gordon HAVE to be better. Our other immediate transfer help, Neff, Marsh and Liebelt, aren't getting it done.

Then you have the injuries to Self and France slowing them down. Injuries to Ashcraft and Price are killer. I am guessing Breaux is not a real option until next year. Smith has done his job. McQuary and Barlow need to learn to throw freaking strikes.

We have nobody that throws gas
 
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Shamoan

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Just curious...what have I said that was "****" on the baseball team? I'm all ears. I could also make a pretty strong argument that had we been better coach in basketball, we would easily be in the tournament already, but please, continue
 

KurtRambis4

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I could also make a pretty strong argument that had we been better coach in basketball, we would easily be in the tournament already

Yeah, that Howelund is and dubmass.

Winning 7 of the last 10, with 2 of the losses being on the road with a **** call and terrible luck and the other loss against the best/2nd best team in the league, is terrible.

18-2 at home this year was also pathetic.
 

Shamoan

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Just saying, had he coached us better, we would be dancing. I suspect he would be one of the first to admit that. There is no doubt we are improving, so he gets credit for that as well. For the first time in a very long time, I have optimism for our men's hoops.
 
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5049

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Just saying, had he coached us better, we would be dancing. I suspect he would be one of the first to admit that. There is no doubt we are improving, so he gets credit for that as well. For the first time in a very long time, I have optimism for our men's hoops.
If he coached us worse, we wouldn't have made the NIT. Do you realize how fugging stoopid you really sound

If I don't brush my teeth tonight my breath will smell worse oh wow !!!1
 

Shamoan

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I honestly don't care what you or anyone else for that matter thinks about what I say. We let some critical games against bad teams slip away. Why is that so difficult to acknowledge? Probably because you know I'm right.
 

Shamoan

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If he coached us worse, we wouldn't have made the NIT. Do you realize how fugging stoopid you really sound

If I don't brush my teeth tonight my breath will smell worse oh wow !!!1

look, if you want to be best internet friends, just ask me. Don't beat around the bush.
 

WrapItDog

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Aug 23, 2012
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Rooker toted the team last year with about 25% of the RBIs add Brown, Gridley, and Lovelady's RBIs and were talking 60-70% of the run production.
 

ronpolk

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I honestly don't care what you or anyone else for that matter thinks about what I say. We let some critical games against bad teams slip away. Why is that so difficult to acknowledge? Probably because you know I'm right.

What bad losses does the basketball team have?
 

Drebin

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Yeah, that Howelund is and dubmass.

Winning 7 of the last 10, with 2 of the losses being on the road with a **** call and terrible luck and the other loss against the best/2nd best team in the league, is terrible.

18-2 at home this year was also pathetic.

The answer can be both. Howland could have done a good job this year while at times allowing some opportunities slip away. It's very reasonable to throw an emphatic WTF his way over a couple of losses we had.

I admire your zeal to blindly and enthusiastically defend howland and the team at all costs, but you know that's not what this site is.
 

maroonmania

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The answer can be both. Howland could have done a good job this year while at times allowing some opportunities slip away. It's very reasonable to throw an emphatic WTF his way over a couple of losses we had.

I admire your zeal to blindly and enthusiastically defend howland and the team at all costs, but you know that's not what this site is.

One specific thing Howland does that I don't agree with is putting NOBODY on the lane when shooting free throws at the end of the game with a lead. I personally think that turned the Vandy game into a loss. We've done it pretty consistently but I don't like it. Put 2 back and 2 on the lane and I'm good with that but not leaving the lane unopposed. Much better chance that you come up with a rebound there than commit a foul. Against Vandy we missed the 2nd free throw and Vandy was allowed to rebound the miss with ease and dribble the full length of the court uncontested and hit a wide open 3 with only 6 seconds remaining. That should have never happened like that.
 

KurtRambis4

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I'm not blindly

defending Howland.

His leadership is the reason we were where we were, fighting for an NCAA birth.

Basketball shamoan is just pulling his dumb card bc when Howland had the program trending up, he was proven wrong.

Then, we lose one game (to TN, at that) and he's back on the 'tard train

It is just silly to sit there and watch the last 10 games we played and even remotely think coaching is a shortcoming.

If you read that as me saying Howland can't make mistakes, then you just can't comprehend.

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BossDawg78

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I'm so depressed about this team and State baseball in general...I'm trying to make myself laugh at the absurdity of how this has all played out.

It really doesn't matter if this team wakes up or not, because if they do, I'll just be expecting some Bruce Lee blindsided kick in the nuts. Some ******* teams will just come along and pick apart our coaching staff or something like that.

I need fresh air.
 
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