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trob115

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trob115 said:
This would probably change quite a few players. If JUCO doesn't count towards your eligibility, that's going to open up a lot of players to the potential transfer portal. I realize this is only one ruling, but the wheels are in motion

www.cbssports.com

Diego Pavia granted eligibility for 2025 season: Vanderbilt QB wins injunction in antitrust case vs. NCAA

Pavia is arguing that junior college seasons should not count against NCAA eligibility
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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Next up…eligibility limits of any kind.
 
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QuaoarsKing

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So if you're a 2 star recruit, why go to a 4-year school at all out of high school? Play for a junior college, get some good experience, keep training, and after 2 years you can sign somewhere as a 20 year old freshman.

This may have a huge long term impact.
 
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Bulldog from Birth

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85Bears said:
This is just minor league baseball, play until you are 35 years old or you are told to retire.

Pavis will go in the portal. D2 shouldn’t count either.
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Unlimited eligibility is ABSOLUTELY coming. If college sports are a profession, limiting eligibility to 4 or 5 years will never survive challenges of age based discrimination.
 
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Bulldog from Birth

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OG Goat Holder said:
That is idiotic. These guys just want to maximize the mid time in college to get more NIL. Period.
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100%. But wouldn’t you? If they’re not top NFL prospects, they’ll be likely go from making a million plus bucks a year to being lucky to clear $60k per year selling insurance. They will sue the NCAA for age discrimination. And they’re going to win.
 
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Bulldog from Birth said:
Unlimited eligibility is ABSOLUTELY coming. If college sports are a profession, limiting eligibility to 4 or 5 years will never survive challenges of age based discrimination.
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I'm no labor law expert, but I believe a players' union could collectively bargain eligibility rules. So that will probably come in the next few years, and whether it's 5 years to play 4, 5 years to play 5, or something else, it will be negotiated and agreed upon.
 
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QuaoarsKing said:
I'm no labor law expert, but I believe a players' union could collectively bargain eligibility rules. So that will probably come in the next few years, and whether it's 5 years to play 4, 5 years to play 5, or something else, it will be negotiated and agreed upon.
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I don’t know why the players would ever negotiate anything when they’re getting everything they could ever want in the courts.
 
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Bulldog from Birth said:
100%. But wouldn’t you? If they’re not top NFL prospects, they’ll be likely go from making a million plus bucks a year to being lucky to clear $60k per year selling insurance. They will sue the NCAA for age discrimination. And they’re going to win.
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I blame our idiotic leadership or lack of it. So…..no one to blame.
 
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Bulldog from Birth said:
100%. But wouldn’t you? If they’re not top NFL prospects, they’ll be likely go from making a million plus bucks a year to being lucky to clear $60k per year selling insurance. They will sue the NCAA for age discrimination. And they’re going to win.
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It’s the Tosh joke about Farve. You are going milk those years for all they are worth, and you can’t really blame them.
 
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How in the hell can the NFL have a "3 year after high school" rule. That's over soon too. That rule exists only for the interest of college football. Period.
 
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onewoof said:
How in the hell can the NFL have a "3 year after high school" rule. That's over soon too. That rule exists only for the interest of college football. Period.
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Courts have also shown a deference to age rules on the young side protecting someone from themselves, who the courts view as the weaker party. Examples being child labor laws protecting kids from being taken advantage of by business owners. Rules restricting 19 year olds from playing in the NFL also have a clearly safety aspect to protecting a developing body from the brutality of grown NFL men. Courts have been much less deferential to age based rules that have no tangible benefit to the worker, to the benefit of a stronger party like the NCAA.
 
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It will still be represented as unlawful restriction for a legal 18 year old adult. Claim will be 2 years salary lost of a 5 star QB college salary vs top 5 pick NFL salary for a QB. Or defensive tackle. It's eventually going to be challenged.

Look at Jayden Daniels. Malik Nabers. Two examples of players that were NFL ready in college. There are many more.
 
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”Ignorance is bliss” is fast becoming the only way to enjoy college athletics. Meaning just watch the games if you enjoy them without any knowledge of the business.
 
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Let's get rid of amateurism altogether. Think of JaMarcus Russell. Stud in college. Bust in the NFL. He was 24 when his NFL career ended. Now that college players are getting paid to play, what is the argument against a player like JaMarcus Russell returning to college (assuming a school wants him)?
 
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I’d like to tell Greg 17-ing Sankey face to face to never ever never use the word “student athlete” when talking about college football players again!
And I could probably include mens basketball and maybe even baseball players in the very near future.
Those days are long gone
 
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patdog said:
It's collectively bargained with the players union and the NFL. Courts would uphold it if it were ever challenged.
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It was challenged by Maurice Clarett of Ohio State wanting to enter the 2004 draft, only 2 years removed from high school. He lost.
 
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Bulldog from Birth said:
Unlimited eligibility is ABSOLUTELY coming. If college sports are a profession, limiting eligibility to 4 or 5 years will never survive challenges of age based discrimination.
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How is this related to age? I don’t believe there is an upper age limit to be a college athlete.

If there are no rules WRT to amateur status, you could also hav players coming back to school who maybe were flops in the NFL as well right?

The lack of rules at the moment comes from the fact the NCAA was ruled a monopoly. The major conferences could move together to come up with reasonable eligibility requirements, transfer rules, salary caps etc. IMO, they are going to have to do something.

I think in the short term you have increased tv viewership with new fans, but I think many who were mid level boosters and season ticket holders are going to start dropping as the chaos continues. I am already hearing that sentiment from life long Bama and Auby friends.

The minor league baseball analogy is spot on. It can be entertaining, but it is a casual, passionless watch due to in part to player turnover etc. If a fan doesn’t feel like the “most” of the players share the passion for playing for the school, how long will the fans feel the passion?
 
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Captain Ron said:
How is this related to age? I don’t believe there is an upper age limit to be a college athlete.

If there are no rules WRT to amateur status, you could also hav players coming back to school who maybe were flops in the NFL as well right?
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It’s de facto age in that it basically accomplishes the same thing. It forces older players out by its nature. It would be like an employer of a hardware store mandating that you can’t work there after your first 4 years are up.

And yes, you should absolutely worry about NFL flops coming back. That’s in play here too. The courts have basically said “amateurism” isn’t allowed.
 
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I've said all along that the ultimate aim of this stuff coming from the courts was to eventually do away with big time college sports. Nothing that has happened so far has changed my mind.
 
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It's going to to get overturned imo because they said it's the same as a transfer but on a transfer, eligibility is still burnt.
 
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