This happening in Jefferson County schools?

JumperJack

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Dumbing them down with each passing year. Just pitiful for these kids stuck in that district.

Fun fact: you liberals are responsible for this nonsense. You could have spoken up and killed it in its’ cradle but now it has engulfed public education. And we are supposed to believe there should be no alternative to public schools.
 

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…..and yet another day that I did not use the Pythagorean Theorem.
Talked to a high school kid tonight about the train word problems... idgaf what speed train A or B travels at from Philly to Chicago. Idgaf when they pass. When do I need to get on the train to be there by.. say 6pm?
 
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It doesn't look like it. The "article" just shows JCPS teachers were invited, and the registration link doesn't even work (try to click it). The links to the tweets aren't working, either.

Do you have a date/location/time on this program?
 

kyeric

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The program’s goal is to “eliminate curricular violence and innovate mathematics education” through “anti-bias, anti-racist, and racially equitable practices.”

In our desire to nerf the world, the insistence of abject pussies to equate ideas with violence was inevitable and insufferable.

There's gotta be a Dave Chappelle sketch in there somewhere...

...which focus on topics like white supremacy in mathematics, racial trauma in mathematics, and creating anti-racist lesson plans.
 

funKYcat75

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It's a huge reach connecting "showing your work" to racism, but the outcome to some of these ideas are not bad. Instread of explaining through written words, students would be able to give math talks, make videos, etc. to show their thinking. That's a very good thing.

It's not "dumbing down" if you allow other ways to show your work. As a high schooler I remmeber something about derivatives or some caculus thing that I guarantee I'll never use (in my line of work, at least). I could do the problems over and over, usually get the right answer, but had zero sense of WTF they were for. Then a friend of mind explained it using real-life terms (I wish I remmebered them, but it was damn near 30 years ago) that the teacher never would have mentioned. Step-by-step or written word descriptions didn't suit me in math, but talking about math did.

So if you can unwad your panties a bit, there can be good ideas in these obvioulsy slanted links that describe a fringe concept of racist math.
 

John Henry

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Louisville has become a liberal ********. Give it to Indiana.
Do they still use the term "Kentuckiana" I heard that term back in the 1960's when I was a student at UK. I thought it was the dumbest thing I had heard. Kentuckiana. Then my fraternity brother told me it was fitting because the rest of Kentucky wanted nothing to do with them and making them part of Hoosier Land was brilliant.
 
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funKYcat75

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Until the black community acknowledges their problems today stem from their own community, they're never going to move forward. Stop playing victim, stop blaming shortcomings in school on everything other than lack of parenting and disciplined study, stop blaming police for doing their job, just stop. Enough, enough, enough.
Hoo boy, OK. So for the sake of argument, let's say you nailed it. That doesn't change the fact that kids come to schools and still need to learn. They're going to show up every morning. Some will be hungry, so the school feeds them. Some will need socks or a coat, so the school get them some clothes. Some will not have any help with homework at home or will have no scholastic expectations from parental figures, school will still try and teach them. No matter what buzz words are used by the "woke", as people get called around here, the end result is trying to get kids to learn.

Some of you can't look past the who in order to be able to focus on the what or how.

Not to mention, it's not like Ms. Teacher looks at little Jamal's math test and then looks at little McKayla's math test and says, "It's OK that you got them all wrong, Jamal. Math is mad racist." In fact, one of the things in the article (or linked from it) specifically addresses the fact that some teachers have lower expectation for black students, and how that is wrong. But when we see the title "‘Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations’ And Its Role in Maintaining White Supremacy through Mathematics Education." it's an automatic NO to half the population because they automatically assume tHeY'rE sAyIn' We'R'e WhItE sUpReMaCiStS!!!!!!.

In other words, to most folks online it's all about the packaging and not the contents.
 

mdlUK.1

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Do they still use the term "Kentuckiana" I heard that term back in the 1960's when I was a student at UK. I thought it was the dumbest thing I had heard. Kentuckiana. Then my fraternity brother told me it was fitting because the rest of Kentucky wanted nothing to do with them and making them part of Hoosier Land was brilliant.
Yes! And what pisses me off is, most of the local news will mention Indiana and then Kentucky. They cover southern Indiana better than the counties outside of Louisville/Jefferson county.
 
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Hoo boy, OK. So for the sake of argument, let's say you nailed it. That doesn't change the fact that kids come to schools and still need to learn. They're going to show up every morning. Some will be hungry, so the school feeds them. Some will need socks or a coat, so the school get them some clothes. Some will not have any help with homework at home or will have no scholastic expectations from parental figures, school will still try and teach them. No matter what buzz words are used by the "woke", as people get called around here, the end result is trying to get kids to learn.

Some of you can't look past the who in order to be able to focus on the what or how.

Not to mention, it's not like Ms. Teacher looks at little Jamal's math test and then looks at little McKayla's math test and says, "It's OK that you got them all wrong, Jamal. Math is mad racist." In fact, one of the things in the article (or linked from it) specifically addresses the fact that some teachers have lower expectation for black students, and how that is wrong. But when we see the title "‘Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations’ And Its Role in Maintaining White Supremacy through Mathematics Education." it's an automatic NO to half the population because they automatically assume tHeY'rE sAyIn' We'R'e WhItE sUpReMaCiStS!!!!!!.

In other words, to most folks online it's all about the packaging and not the contents.
Sounds like curricular violence to me.
 

Beatle Bum

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It's a huge reach connecting "showing your work" to racism, but the outcome to some of these ideas are not bad. Instread of explaining through written words, students would be able to give math talks, make videos, etc. to show their thinking. That's a very good thing.

It's not "dumbing down" if you allow other ways to show your work. As a high schooler I remmeber something about derivatives or some caculus thing that I guarantee I'll never use (in my line of work, at least). I could do the problems over and over, usually get the right answer, but had zero sense of WTF they were for. Then a friend of mind explained it using real-life terms (I wish I remmebered them, but it was damn near 30 years ago) that the teacher never would have mentioned. Step-by-step or written word descriptions didn't suit me in math, but talking about math did.

So if you can unwad your panties a bit, there can be good ideas in these obvioulsy slanted links that describe a fringe concept of racist math.
Nothing you just describe amounts to racism.
 
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Beatle Bum

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Did you read my first sentence?
I read all of your sentences. You act as if people are upset when there is an acknowledgment of socioeconomic and cultural distinctions in learning when people have expressed no such thing. People are disgusted by the racialization of everything. Your story is not relevant to the latter.
 
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funKYcat75

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I read all of your sentences. You act as if people are upset when there is an acknowledgment of socioeconomic and cultural distinctions in learning when people have expressed no such thing. People are disgusted by the racialization of everything. Your story is not relevant to the latter.
It is precisely relevant to the link. It's all about the frame you put things in. If these same steps were being taken without the terms race, racism, white, black, etc. then there would be no discussion about it on here. The ideas within are healthy though, and that's what gets lost in all the race talk.
 

Beatle Bum

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It is precisely relevant to the link. It's all about the frame you put things in. If these same steps were being taken without the terms race, racism, white, black, etc. then there would be no discussion about it on here. The ideas within are healthy though, and that's what gets lost in all the race talk.
No. I think what gets lost in the race talk is cause and effect. When everything is racialized, people are led to believe race is the issue. Blaming race is the foundation for all racism. When we see troubling statistics, we should want to know the actual cause before we prescribe a remedy. Because, fake causes lead to inconsequential or even detrimental “remedies.”
 

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So Louisville will teach racist math to students and Floridia high school grads will be taught basic financial matters to succeed in life. If I am a parent in Louisville I find a private school for my kids or move to Oldham County.

 

funKYcat75

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When we see troubling statistics, we should want to know the actual cause before we prescribe a remedy
We're talking about school children. Whatever the cause for them falling behind, they're showing up at school tomorrow. Could be any ethnicity. Kid is poor and didn't eat well last night. Doesn't matter to me on Friday morning if his mom was working and didn't cook, or if they didn't have enough food before the month ran out, or he spent his food money on drugs. Either way, there's a fix. Give him some food. We can deal with the cause later. Same with learning. if there's a way to teach the kid in a way that he'll learn, I don't particularly care why that method came about or by whom.

Blaming race is the foundation for all racism.
OK. And? How does that matter to people who are persecuted because of race? (This is apart from the above discussion)
 

John Henry

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Doesn’t Oldham Co have a furry problem?
I have no idea. I just threw that out because it was the only county I could think of for some reason. I live 900 miles from Louisville so I guess I should hush up about Louisville. I don't even know anyone living in that city and the only time I have been to it was driving through on the Interstate. Except for attending the Final Four at the Fairgrounds in 1958.

I don't think I have ever been to Oldham County. Hush my mouth.
 
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mdlUK.1

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Do they still use the term "Kentuckiana" I heard that term back in the 1960's when I was a student at UK. I thought it was the dumbest thing I had heard.
One of the radio stations in the southern part of the state uses Tuckessee.
 
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So Louisville will teach racist math to students and Floridia high school grads will be taught basic financial matters to succeed in life. If I am a parent in Louisville I find a private school for my kids or move to Oldham County.


No.

Did you read the article?

Someone tweeted at JCPS teachers inviting them to participate in a training, but the registration link, and the links to the tweets themselves, didn’t even work.

So that’s not right to say Louisville students will be learning this curriculum.
 

John Henry

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No.

Did you read the article?

Someone tweeted at JCPS teachers inviting them to participate in a training, but the registration link, and the links to the tweets themselves, didn’t even work.

So that’s not right to say Louisville students will be learning this curriculum.
Do you actually think teachers who attend such training will not take it back to the classroom? Why train teachers to start with if you are not going to teach it.

That would be a waste of time and money. But again, let me butt out of this. I am not a resident.
 
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It was literally a tweet inviting them. Read the article. The registration link doesn’t work. The tweet link doesn’t work. There’s no schedule/time/location.

Should you verify the source or see if anyone is actually attending before deciding the end result of your made up scenario?
 

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Hoo boy, OK. So for the sake of argument, let's say you nailed it. That doesn't change the fact that kids come to schools and still need to learn. They're going to show up every morning. Some will be hungry, so the school feeds them. Some will need socks or a coat, so the school get them some clothes. Some will not have any help with homework at home or will have no scholastic expectations from parental figures, school will still try and teach them. No matter what buzz words are used by the "woke", as people get called around here, the end result is trying to get kids to learn.

Some of you can't look past the who in order to be able to focus on the what or how.

Not to mention, it's not like Ms. Teacher looks at little Jamal's math test and then looks at little McKayla's math test and says, "It's OK that you got them all wrong, Jamal. Math is mad racist." In fact, one of the things in the article (or linked from it) specifically addresses the fact that some teachers have lower expectation for black students, and how that is wrong. But when we see the title "‘Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations’ And Its Role in Maintaining White Supremacy through Mathematics Education." it's an automatic NO to half the population because they automatically assume tHeY'rE sAyIn' We'R'e WhItE sUpReMaCiStS!!!!!!.

In other words, to most folks online it's all about the packaging and not the contents.
You're right. I forgot to include enabling white liberals as part of the problem.

Accountability. No other race seems to have issues with it.
 
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