JOB! Embarrassing in so many ways! Time to move on regardless of outcome!
This is An indictment for Stoops ....
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No team has ever came out flat against a lesser opponent , definitely a black eye making history for that
A win is a win. Stoops crapping the bed against USM the first game of this year and against Vandy last year...show much more about his issues.
maybe its time for you to move on. find something else to ***** about on saturdays.
Yea, the growth and development of this team over the course of this season proves nothing. Just look at his past and negatives!!! Focus on all those only. Don't point to anything positive.
Because young teams never come out flat against over-matched opponents on senior day.
Jesus man, take a drink.
Jesus man, take a drink.
Kentucky fans have a really bad habit of forgetting how long the game is. I was mad as heck also the first quarter but I'm not about to parlay the success this team has had getting to a bowl game this year into a juvenile crap fest for all the other posters here. Some of you really do need to grow up.
I think Stoops did make a mistake. His defensive play calling was ultra-vanilla at first.....and they didn't play some of the starters they normally do......like Johnson and Snell. Now certainly there were some reasons for this....like Johnson's injury and trying to give people some rest but it sends a message to the team that we are over confident so kick back/relax and enjoy the "scrimmage."
I hope he learned that you have to prepare much the same you normally would. Play your starters for a few series to set the tone and smack the other team around......and then go to the bench quickly.
Stoops is still learning as a coach. Not expecting him to make mistakes is ridiculous. As of right now I have a good feeling that his floor as a coach is good enough to be like Brooks.....yr in/out getting 6-7 regular season wins. Over the last 3 yrs he's gotten us to 5-6 wins a yr with underclass undeveloped players and no reliable QB. So, routinely getting to 6-7 wins/yr shouldn't that much of a stretch once they build the personnel.
What we don't know is where his ceiling is. He might be already maxed out. He might become HOF. We just don't know.
Given UK's history over the past 60+ yrs of averaging 4 wins a yr, I'm inclined to be more patient and see what Stoops can do in the next 1-2 yrs.
He's not going anywhere... I doubt anyone on his staff is going anywhere...
The only people that might be going somewhere are fans.... Attendance has been disappointing...
The only people that might be going somewhere are fans.... Attendance has been disappointing...
My issue was with the handling of the QB situation in so many ways and I just don't mean the media! The penalties, the attitude of the players etc.... one player was playing air quitar in the second quarter trailing 13-7, he was on kickoff team who had just been issued a penalty! It is the character of the players and their approach to the game!
And do not get me wrong I wanted to see Stoops succeed more than anybody! But I am in the belief now that he is not the guy to get us where we should be!
ONLY at UK can we win in a blowout, get not one but 2 RB's over 1,000 yards, and achieve bowl eligibility after a 5 year drought, recruiting is the best it's been in our history.......and yet, fans complain?
I don't get it........
Agenda posters.
We weren't dominated for the first half. We led at halftime.
We came out flat in the first quarter. Righted the ship in the 2nd quarter, and dominated the rest of the game.
In hindsight, playing Wright and other reserves early was a "mistake", insofar as they played uninspired football. However, the fact remains that Coach Stoops correctly understood that if playing reserves and calling a vanilla game was not working out, he could always send in the crack troops and turn a few pages.
We were never losing to that team.
Yes, I'd have preferred gutting them before letting the reserves pick over their carcass, but I think I understand it as an experiment.
We were never losing to that team.
Yes, I'd have preferred gutting them before letting the reserves pick over their carcass, but I think I understand it as an experiment.
Weren't there any lessons that Stoops had learned or a few that he brought with him from his YEARS on the sidelines? That's my concern. Why is he so damn green when it comes to motivating, recognizing team deficiencies, game clock management, and discipline? All of which can cost a team any game against any opponent.
I, like many others, understand that the Kentucky is a tough job. Those in the coaching profession know that it is one of the toughest. So, you'd better bring an A game with you each and every day in this job. Brooks did so. That's why he succeeded here to a higher degree than others.
So, when players don't perform, bench them and play your heralded backup instead. When the game is on the line, play to win from the opponents one yard line. When the clock starts ticking have your team ready to play, at home, with a bowl bid on the line. Build towards a standard of excellence, of winning, of highest expectations.
That's what I ***** about. Paying a coach big dollars to learn-on-the-job is getting old after 4 years. Get the job done on your side so that it reflects how important it is that your players do their jobs equally as well. It works in business and other professional endeavors. I'll give this team it's youth as an excuse, but MS doesn't get that pass, not anymore. IMHO
I, like many others, understand that the Kentucky is a tough job. Those in the coaching profession know that it is one of the toughest. So, you'd better bring an A game with you each and every day in this job. Brooks did so. That's why he succeeded here to a higher degree than others.
So, when players don't perform, bench them and play your heralded backup instead. When the game is on the line, play to win from the opponents one yard line. When the clock starts ticking have your team ready to play, at home, with a bowl bid on the line. Build towards a standard of excellence, of winning, of highest expectations.
That's what I ***** about. Paying a coach big dollars to learn-on-the-job is getting old after 4 years. Get the job done on your side so that it reflects how important it is that your players do their jobs equally as well. It works in business and other professional endeavors. I'll give this team it's youth as an excuse, but MS doesn't get that pass, not anymore. IMHO
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That's all nice and great, and in a perfect world the above is what would happen every game. However, this is not a perfect world, and we are dealing with young kids aged 18 through 22. Good teams have let downs against lesser teams, it's a fact in football and it's always been a fact.… Just look at Alabama for the first quarter and a half last night.
I'm sorry, if Stephen Johnson had gotten injured last night because he had to play to elevate the team's chances of winning against possibly the worst team in the country, then you might feel differently.
No problem grasping anything for the past 45 years of watching and supporting UK football. Peace.
No problem grasping anything for the past 45 years of watching and supporting UK football. Peace.
I gotta admit that at the end of the first quarter I was having those same thoughts rattling around inside my head. But realizing that Stephen Johnson was warming up on the sidelines and getting ready to take over....I calmed down.
If what he tried had worked, everyone woulld be calling him a genious. I thought it was a good idea to sit players who were tweaked and not risk further injury, but it just didn't pan out. Oh well, it was a mistake in hindsight and didn't work. We learned from it. We learned where we stand on Luke Wright and other backups. They learned too that they aren't ready for primetime and need to improve. It's great to learn things and still have a blowout win. Cal makes mistakes too, he's pissed away two national titles, mahbe more, doing stupid stuff.
Absolutely he brought some knowledge with him from his previous position and coordinating experience. But the jobs are different. Would you expect every single top flight coordinator to make a good HC? Name any profession anywhere where you don't improve and gain knowledge the longer you are there.
I do have to agree with your 1st paragraph, his coaching acumen should be higher by this point in his career
As foreman of the Grand Jury, I hereby announce that the jury issued a true bill on an indictment against you for character assassination against Coach Stoops and recommends that you be exiled to Papa John's stadium for the rest of your natural life. Not that you have a life that's natural.