This is our starting QB...and model for future QB's at WVU
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I wouldn't say outstanding. But he gives a different look with his legs.
Just that threat alone will force opposing defenses to account for him. They won't feel his arm is a threat, which means we should see a lot of man coverage, and that should free up Ford-Wheaton and James and Prather. It should also help running lanes.
Greene is a good athlete, but even moreso he has heart. He plays with fire and has a winning demeanor. That alone should've afforded him more playing time before now, despite his shortcomings.
The read option stuff didn't make much sense with JT since he'd rarely keep it and wasn't a good runner.
It did for sure. Except the couple of series they had him stand in the pocket and try to be a passer. If the coaches try to make Greene stand in the pocket it will hurt. He's better when they move him around the pocket with run / pass option.
Rod didn't start Pat White.
The current offense by Harrell is not set up for RPO. That will change now. But the defense is still the same crapshoot.
Was it decent defensive play or just a crap OU team that has been beaten badly most of the year.
Nobody knows if we will be better or worse. Oklahoma was a bad team just as WVU is. OU couldn't take advantage of a piss poor secondary. Receivers dropped balls or were overthrown. They were not prepared for a QB switch.
I liked Greene determination and will to win. How will he do when teams know him and prepare?
I liked Greene determination and will to win. How will he do when teams know him and prepare?
I do welcome the idea of going back to the run pass spread option with a running QB. We beat some very good defenses with that offense including Georgia and Oklahoma. In fact, in the modern era of football, we have only beat OU with the run pass option, considering it saved the game for us Saturday and is the only reason we won.
It seems to fit WVU. Lets do it.
It seems to fit WVU. Lets do it.
I have asked this guy this question several times. He always says no to everything. He can't answer it because what he likes has been proven to not work here.
I like a balanced attack that pushes the ball quickly down the field, spreading the defense out, which primarily is passing the football by the quarterback, and then the running back hitting the hole and getting going downhill. Running qbs are a bore and nightmare with all their scrambling and juking. And this has worked here.
You guys want and think lightning in a bottle Pat White can be replicated. That aint happening. RPO is too slow to develop.
You guys want and think lightning in a bottle Pat White can be replicated. That aint happening. RPO is too slow to develop.
The truth is, our best season ever in the Big12 we finished with 10 wins. Skyler Howard was the QB and much of his damage was done with his running. Poor Skyler did nothing but win and overachieve but fans were down on him because he was not a 6'4" pocket passer, but rather a RPO style QB more in the mold of Garrett Greene. He was fk you'd on the way town after giving us our best season since the Big East.
So we can keep trying to be sexy with this air raid attack which requires a very good, pro style QB to run, or we can do what has always worked at WVU. When the best QB's usually go to the bigger schools and those schools want to take kids like Pat White and Greene and make them WRs, the Pat White's of the world have a landing spot in WVU. I welcome that, but I dont care about passing stats, I just want to win games plain and simple. Doesnt really matter what it looks like. Run pass option has never really failed WVU.
Honestly, if we actually get a real good coach it wont matter what system it is, because a good coach will win regardless. If we get an average coach like Dana, we'll most likely be in the same boat we were with Dana. If we get another bad coach like Brown, we are finished.
Skyler Howard 7,302 yards passing 8.0 yard avg, 1105 yards rushing 3.4 yard avg in 30 games. He had 60 passing TD's 24 INT and 16 rushing td's. Looks to me like he did more damage passing than running. He finished his career as 4th most passing yards at WVU. Finished 55th in rushing yards.
19-11 and 1-2 in bowl games
it's still Oklahoma with all those 4 star players and all the university resources to go with it all. Down or not, WVU got it done to keep hope alive! Greene's performance could have been merely situational, adrenaline driven, and aided by a poorly coached/positioned OU team, but it remains to be seen if he is a longer term answer at QB. I hope Nicco is the longer term answer. Not sure yet on who it will be.
I agree.
It has nothing to do with can he be RPO or not RPO. If they possibly are a threat to run or can stretch the pocket is what matters. Even if they're under pressure and have that ability to squeeze out of a pass rush.
OU has far mor 4 star players than 5 stars. They had 17 of their 22 recruits listed as 4 star players.
As far as Greene, Nicco or Goose. I wouldn't know but are we sure they will be here when Brown gets fired?
Howard converted a ton of 3rd downs with his feet. People say they want a qb that can extend plays well he extended drives. It was his running ability that led us to 10 wins more then his passing ability.
Problem is some good coaches wouldn't be all that good here if their system requires too much talent.
That Stat would be hard to prove if it was Howard that got majority of 3rd downs rushing. But just the threat and the ability of Howard running opened up the offense a lot.
Like a traditional pro offense could be like that. I'm hoping to see more spread, just hopefully better coaching overall. Sometimes it's not the plays but how badly they are executed. Take our OL for instance. That unit holds the passing game back, imo. So hopefully whoever we get has good assistants
Prepare yourself for another year of misery just in case they don't fire him this coming season.
