This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

[HippyDawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

you make him one of the highest paid coaches in the country. Saban money. And by him I also mean the staff. MSU out of necessity has to bet on the come if it wants to compete. Time to put up or shut up. In return have a significant buyout even if on a sliding scale but that would show real commitment and belief by both parties. I personally think he is that good of a coach and worth being one of the highest paid coached in the nation. Playing safe and cheap ain't going to cut it.

 

[HippyDawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

you make him one of the highest paid coaches in the country. Saban money. And by him I also mean the staff. MSU out of necessity has to bet on the come if it wants to compete. Time to put up or shut up. In return have a significant buyout even if on a sliding scale but that would show real commitment and belief by both parties. I personally think he is that good of a coach and worth being one of the highest paid coached in the nation. Playing safe and cheap ain't going to cut it.

 

[Dawg E Style]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

nt

 

[Goat Holder II]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

If so, keep it coming. If not, you might want to put your money where your mouth is before you try and make tough statements. Just keeping it real....

 

[HippyDawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

You think we can have a Top 20 program paying the league average?

 

[Columbus Dawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

we aren't just going to throw 3 million at him and give huge raises to all the assistants. We need to keep things in perspective. We finished 5th in the SECW. How many teams did we beat with a winning record?1.

We all think Mullen has the potential to be a great coach, but just like Greg Byrne, you have to consider his predecessor. Anyone would look great following Croom. I am sureStricklin is working on a big pay raise, but not one of the highest paid coaches in the country. </p>

 

[Dawg E Style]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

nt

 

[Goat Holder II]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

but you can really only pay what you can afford. It'd be a good investment I am sure. But money doesn't grow on trees. Our boosters are going to have to sack up and pay up.

 

[Goat Holder II]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

I assume you agree that bowl eligibility is considered winning.

 

[snoopdog]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

however, I wish that was complete about a week ago, not in negotiations right now.

 

[HippyDawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

Or let me put it to you another way. What do you think of a coach that consistently competes to play for the SEC Championship? Not getting there or winning it every year but realistically in the mix for the Division. Even at a place like Georgia, LSU, Alabama it is not that easy to accomplish that. Being able to achieve similar at MSU is even tougher so any coach that can accomplish that is one of the best coaches in the country.

 

[Columbus Dawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

I can't believe I had to post that.

 

[Goat Holder II]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

It's bowl eligibility, period. 6 wins, you had a winning season.

 

[Columbus Dawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

but I don't think Stricklin is going to go from 1.2 million a year to 3.5 million a year. I think somewhere between 2.2 to 2.5 with incentives is more than reasonable.

As for the body of your post, if Mullen achieves your specualtion then yes, he will become one of the highest paid coaches in the country either at MSU or somewhere else. But I also don't think it's as hard to win at MSU as a lot of people think. Especially if you dominate the state of MS in recruiting.

 

[HippyDawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

Florida can afford to be reactionary because their program is already built. MSU cannot afford to be so reactionary. We have to gamble a little bit and recognize value earlier and better than others to compete. Same principle really that is involved with player evaluations (winning with 3 stars versus bluechips). Waiting to pay him until after a program such as Georgia or Florida recognizes he is good enough to lead their program does not show much commitment or belief. If we think he is good enough for one of those type jobs right now then we should recognize that and compensate him as such. Not only would that be a very public & emphatic declaration to everyone (including recruits) that we mean business and are here to play but it would be huge a show of faith. Not that any one thing, or any of those things I'm talking about, will play any significant role in what is ultimately a professional decision but it can't hurt to have a little loyalty on your side.

 

[Incognegro]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

Even in the media eye we have only beaten 1 team with a winning record. Even more so... Houston isn't even bowl eligible so I don't even know why you threw them in the mix. Having a winning record and being bowl eligible are 2 different things. the allow .500 teams to go bowling to give them a chance to finish the season off with a winning record (also an excuse to get more money, but still...). Being .500 != winning record. Although, we do have a chance of beating 4 teams in total who have a winning record though.

 

[ckDOG]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

Agreed 100%.

 

[Big Sheep81]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

All this talk of throwing the Count of Monte Cristo's treasure at Mullen to get him to stay is goofy. Just because 1/2 of the college coachs may be money grubbin bandits ignores the fact that the other 1/2 may not look at things through c-notes. The Joe Pa's may be rare, but there's still a few out there. Mullen seems to geniunely like it here. State gave him his shot at being the head dog, so why wouldn't he stick around a while? It could be because he is a straight up guy. And he can't twitter every 2 damn minutes to counter some wide-eyed idiot's small peckered insecurity and latest theory.

Geeze....

Give the man a chance and don't treat him like his only motivation is money. I think he's a stand-up guy and he stays.

 

[HippyDawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

nm

 

[Big Sheep81]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

word does not mean 100% of them are the same. Big money only guarantees big paychecks and bigger egos. Running the man down to stuff gold coins in his pocket won't earn his loyalty. Let him and the University work this out. I'm telling you, the man wants to stay and he will get paid an appropriate amount of money to do so.

and, I already have two damn dogs......

It ain't about friends, it's about relationships and feeling comfortable with Mullen.

 

[Big Sheep81]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

nm

 

[HippyDawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

What color is the sky in your world? Mullen is not dumb and knows his worth. He is also ambitious. But carry on with your fantasy.

 

[Big Sheep81]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

The man has won 13 games in two seasons. One bowl game. What part of that is fantasy? I think he is going to be a hell of a coach. But if you want to reward him, give him a solid base with great incentives. Then he is rewarded for success, not just for being here.

My sky is blue unlike yours which is green with somebody else's money......

 

[Reb95]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

It was the same with Tuberville at Ole Miss. It is not whether he liked it there or not, it was the fact that at the time he was at Ole Miss he became one of the hottest young coaches in the country. He knew that you can go from one of the hottest to the coldest overnight. One losing season at State and half of the fanbase would be all over Mullen. 2 in a row and 80% of the fanbase would want him gone. It is easier to lose at Ole Miss and State than Florida. Head coaches have short careers for the most part. They need to make all the money they can...while they can. Right now Mullen makes less than any other SEC coach. He doesn't put in long hours away from his family out of 'loyalty', he does it for the pay and he isn't paid enough for his results. The turn around at State has been nothing short of monumental.

 

[HippyDawg]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

I don't know you posted here.

 

[Big Sheep81]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

nm

 

[BiscuitEater]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

Not getting there or winning it every year but realistically in the mix for the Division. Even at a place like Georgia, LSU, Alabama it is not that easy to accomplish that. Being able to achieve similar at MSU is even tougher so any coach that can accomplish that is one of the best coaches in the country.

Except ... when his name is Stansbury. Sorry, know the OP is 'football' but just could not resist the 'irony.'

Biscuit

 

[cowbell88]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

I really believe that Mullen and wife wants to be in Starkville and is appreciative of the support from fans, staff, administration, and players. Dan wants the challenge of making MSU into a National Contender and taking us to places we've never been, (wait for it, wait, here goes) BUT if you think that loyalty can't be bought you're mistaken (see Cam Newton). I have confidence that our administration will make a very reasonable offer to Mullen and Company. However, at this time I think our"max" offer would still be in the "good deal range" at Florida.

 

[KingBarkus]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

Show me where he is worth 4-5 million a year.......

The man has won 13 games in two seasons. One bowl game. What part of that is fantasy? I think he is going to be a hell of a coach. But if you want to reward him, give him a solid base with great incentives. Then he is rewarded for success, not just for being here.

My sky is blue unlike yours which is green with somebody else's money......

We urinated away how much on Croom when he was both on the sidelines and outta here? The meteoric turnaround of this program by Mullen (and Byrne, Stricklin, new Prez) screams Pay the Man. I realize we may have to overpay, but Mullen comes off as driven, hungry, and motivated. Perfect for our program.

 

[Big Sheep81]

This is simple. If you think Mullen can get MSU to be a consistent contender the West

And I have seen a lot of shitastic fooball and coaching here. Look, I know that you get what you pay for but it is insane to just throw piles of money at a coach. Do you think Alabama fans think 5 million was a bargain at AT this year? What I am saying and you guys seem to miss is that if you lay down a solid base (2-2.5 mm) and load up the incentive wagon he has reason to stay AND produce results. If Mullen goes 7-5 next year would ya'll say he earned the same? Or, what if he was 6-6 this year instead of 8-4?

My point is, if ya'll have been paying attention to Mullen and the type guy he is the key to him is NOT just money. LT jumping up with money to Croom was the exact reason we got stuck paying the walrus 3mm to ride his golf cart out of Starkville.