This is the conclusion I have come to after last night.

[GOODDAWG]

I went to the game last night and these were some of the things I found out (my opinion of course).




1) I feel that Renardo Sidney was the main reason that this team couldn't come together. I realize that this is no shock to most of you. However, if all I had done was watch the games on TV this year, I would have never known how lazy that big fat butt truly was.



2) I don NOT feel that this teams lack of "team-ness" is a direct result of Stansbury's coaching. I watched Stans throughout the night, and I agreed with nearly every decision he made. He gets a bad rep because of the type of people on this team (i. e. Renardo). While ultimately it is Stans' fault that Sid is even on the team, it is NOT his fault that Sid acts like a 320 lb. two year old. Stansbury was NOT the problem on this year's team.



3) Aming the many other people I watched last night was Wendell Lewis. I have seen complaining on here about his lack of effort, his lack of composure, etc. But I want to tell you right now, Wendell brought his A game last night. He hustled. He rebounded. He was a team player. He even cheered his team on AFTER HE HAD FOULED OUT! That man deserves some respect so I got some for him right here. Good job Wendell, you played good last night!



4) If Moultrie is to come back, you better watch out for our team next year. If we sign Pollard, this could be a amazing class. So chill out. Next year will be fine. Especially since Renardo will be gone. We might actually overachieve next year! Wouldn't that be a great feeling?



Not everyone will agree on how I feel about last night, but thats ok with me. Hail State!

 

[GOODDAWG]

I went to the game last night and these were some of the things I found out (my opinion of course).




1) I feel that Renardo Sidney was the main reason that this team couldn't come together. I realize that this is no shock to most of you. However, if all I had done was watch the games on TV this year, I would have never known how lazy that big fat butt truly was.



2) I don NOT feel that this teams lack of "team-ness" is a direct result of Stansbury's coaching. I watched Stans throughout the night, and I agreed with nearly every decision he made. He gets a bad rep because of the type of people on this team (i. e. Renardo). While ultimately it is Stans' fault that Sid is even on the team, it is NOT his fault that Sid acts like a 320 lb. two year old. Stansbury was NOT the problem on this year's team.



3) Aming the many other people I watched last night was Wendell Lewis. I have seen complaining on here about his lack of effort, his lack of composure, etc. But I want to tell you right now, Wendell brought his A game last night. He hustled. He rebounded. He was a team player. He even cheered his team on AFTER HE HAD FOULED OUT! That man deserves some respect so I got some for him right here. Good job Wendell, you played good last night!



4) If Moultrie is to come back, you better watch out for our team next year. If we sign Pollard, this could be a amazing class. So chill out. Next year will be fine. Especially since Renardo will be gone. We might actually overachieve next year! Wouldn't that be a great feeling?



Not everyone will agree on how I feel about last night, but thats ok with me. Hail State!

 

[KurtRambis4]

Stansbury's fault that Sid is worthless and has no desire or discipline, it is his fault that he is no the team. He should have been gone long ago. I know it's hard for someone to turn away such a talent, but after strike 5000, he should have cut him loose. I do blame him for that.

 

[GOODDAWG]

But I think Stansbury knew the right thing to do was to let him go after the season ended. And I agree with that too. After last night, I felt that FatSack was the ultimate problem on that team. No hustle. No effort. Nothing. He was literally just there. And I would have never known how bad it was till I watched the game in person last night. Unbelievable.

 

[Tds & Beer]

If a player joins a team and acts like he doesn't give a **** for three whole years, never gets in shape, repeatedly causes his team to give up easy buckets, writes stupid **** on twitter, never gives 100% effort, walks down the court, stays on the other side when the team is on defense, etc, it's not the coaches fault? It may be the player's fault too but if the coach allows it to happen, it's his damn fault that it continues to happen.

 

[powwowdawg]

2) I don NOT feel that this teams lack of "team-ness" is a direct result of Stansbury's coaching. I watched Stans throughout the night, and I agreed with nearly every decision he made. He gets a bad rep because of the type of people on this team (i. e. Renardo). <span style="font-weight: bold;">While ultimately it is Stans' fault that Sid is even on the team, it is NOT his fault that Sid acts like a 320 lb. two year old. Stansbury was NOT the problem on this year's team. </span>

It all falls under the coach's responsibility. If one of his players is acting like a baby, you do something about it! How is that not Stans' fault? If Sid was ultimately the cancer of the team, then it is the coach's job to take care of it. In this case he failed, and it's not the first time. If you or I fail at our job as many times as Rick has failed at his, we would lose our job. It's only fair that he lose his.

 

[neb86]

Did you watch the same game I did Lewis can't guard anyone. His effort was really bad. The tv guys were all over him.</p>

 

[Dental Dawg]

HE SCORED 2 POINTS, FOULED OUT AND PLAYED NO DEFENSE!

 

[KurtRambis4]

he agreed wth this, by agreeing with my post.

 

[Incognegro]

You've admitted that it was up to Stans to get Sidney off the team if he really was such a big detriment to team chemistry, but you try to deflect all of that blame on Sidney even after admitting that? There's no way it's NOT the coaches fault if that's the case. He's supposed to be an authoritarian. He needs to do everything in his power to ensure his team works together.<div>
</div><div>It's no secret that Sid underachieved, was veryjuvenile and was lazy to a degree that he completely hurt his own game. This is why that sounds absolutely stupid to me...:</div><div>
</div><div>1) It's Stans job to make sure that Sidney is in optimal playing shape. If he's too lazy to do what needs to be done you either get rid of him there or make sure he has little to no minutes. Main problem solved right there. I've never heard of a bench player destroying team chemistry...</div><div>
</div><div>2) If his actions harmed the team in multiple times and harmed them in a physical and/or mental areas...guess what... YOU GET RID OF HIM. Do not put up with ******** that directly harms your team. There is no way that you can seriously say that's all on Sidney. It's Stans 17ing job and he did not do this point even though he should have done something when point 1 became a problem.</div><div>
</div><div>That's just retarded saying Sid is the only cause to this ********. Despite whether I believe that if under the right leadership he would have performed better is irrelevant now... the fact of the matter is his actions have hurt our program. He simply did not fit in Rick's mold, and when any player can bring your entire team down, you do not let that **** persist. Nothing you said even came close to convincing me otherwise.</div>

 

[Irondawg]

We've signed a gazillion guards lately and very few big bodies that can rebound and play defense

 

[maroonmania]

Rick understands team chemistry. I'm starting to think that when Rick gets in front of the media and says his program has no problems that it is NOT coach speak, apparently he REALLY believes that. I don't know if its just him being naive, totally in denial or just the fact he lacks an ability to understand what's going on around him but I do think he actually believes that stuff when he spouts it. He's like the ultimate polyanna I guess. Anyway, since Rick apparently doesn't perceive these team chemistry problems when they ARE occurring it only follows that he wouldn't have a clue on how to fix them.

 

[KurtRambis4]

was that Stansbury recognized that Sidney had a great deal of physical talent. Stansbury tried time and time again, to get this experiment to work. However, it ultimately failed due to Sidney's overwhelming attitude and lack of discipline. It was most definitely Stansbury's fault for allowing it to go on for way too long, but it was a risk he was obviously willing to take.

 

[GOODDAWG]

And that is definitely a good thing.

 

[DAWG61]

did anybody watch Iona last night? That team has 1-2 possible pro's yet they looked like the Miami Heat in the first half. When Stansbury started coaching he had fresh ideas and was ahead of the pack. His teams led the nation in rebounding and defensive fg %. Now he has gotten so far from those teams even he doesn't know how to get back. He has lost his vision and control over his team. It happens. He's been the coach for 14 17ing years. MSU has made him a very rich man. We don't owe him ****. It's time to go in a new direction. He's made over $18 million mother17ing dollars. I can guarantee you MSU can get a much better coach.

 

[AROB44]

was that Stansbury recognized that Sidney had a great deal of physical talent. Stansbury tried time and time again, to get this experiment to work. However, it ultimately failed due to Sidney's overwhelming attitude and lack of discipline. It was most definitely Stansbury's fault for allowing it to go on for way too long, but it was a risk he was obviously willing to take.

And by taking that risk,he put his job on the line.By making that big of a gamble and failing to cut his losses much sooner..that aloneis reason enough to cost him his job. It is time for Stans to go...I just wish he would voluntarily step down, but we all know that is not going to happen. And I am in the top 5%of Bulldog Clubmembers based on the accumulated points.

 

[fishwater99]

I went to the game last night and these were some of the things I found out (my opinion of course). <span style="font-weight: bold;">(Read more Post less, keep your opinion to yourself))</span><br style="font-weight: bold;">
1) I feel that Renardo Sidney was the main reason that this team couldn't come together. I realize that this is no shock to most of you. However, if all I had done was watch the games on TV this year, I would have never known how lazy that big fat butt truly was. <span style="font-weight: bold;">(Really, what hole in the ground do you live in?)</span>

2) I don NOT feel that this teams lack of "team-ness" is a direct result of Stansbury's coaching. I watched Stans throughout the night, and I agreed with nearly every decision he made. He gets a bad rep because of the type of people on this team (i. e. Renardo). While ultimately it is Stans' fault that Sid is even on the team, it is NOT his fault that Sid acts like a 320 lb. two year old. Stansbury was NOT the problem on this year's team.<span style="font-weight: bold;"> (Stansbury is totally responsible for the team, and the RSS had him by the balls so to speak b/c of all the Time and Money we had invested in him, now who's fault is that, Stans, that's who. He recruited and signed the RSS, he should have let him go at the end of last season)</span>

3) Aming the many other people I watched last night was Wendell Lewis. I have seen complaining on here about his lack of effort, his lack of composure, etc. But I want to tell you right now, Wendell brought his A game last night. He hustled. He rebounded. He was a team player. He even cheered his team on AFTER HE HAD FOULED OUT! That man deserves some respect so I got some for him right here. Good job Wendell, you played good last night! <span style="font-weight: bold;">(Wendell is the worst post player in the history of MSU basketball, that actually gets minutes in a game. He can't make a dunk or layup, plays no defense, and he can't make or catch a pass or dribble without making a turnover. Not sure what you were drinking or smoking last night, but it must have been good.)</span>

4) If Moultrie is to come back, you better watch out for our team next year. If we sign Pollard, this could be a amazing class. So chill out. Next year will be fine. Especially since Renardo will be gone. We might actually overachieve next year! Wouldn't that be a great feeling?
<span style="font-weight: bold;">(Moultrie is taking the money and doesn't want to play under Stans, we will overachieve next year if we make the NIT)</span>

Not everyone will agree on how I feel about last night, but thats ok with me. Hail State! <span style="font-weight: bold;">(You are right about that...)</span>

 

[BiscuitEater]

did anybody watch Iona last night? That team has 1-2 possible pro's yet they looked like the Miami Heat in the first half.

Did you happen to catch the 'rest' of the game where BYU went zone and Iona blew a 25 point lead? Ional team you are using as an example set the NCAA record as the 'greatest' colapse EVER in NCAA dance history.


That's the coach you want to replace Stans?

 

[GOODDAWG]

But it was Stansbury-esqe. (see LSU 17 point lead)

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

...but everyone is a 17ing expert.

 

[BiscuitEater]

I went to the game last night and these were some of the things I found out


Aming the many other people I watched last night was Wendell Lewis. I have seen complaining on here about his lack of effort, his lack of composure, etc. But I want to tell you right now, Wendell brought his A game last night. He hustled. He rebounded. He was a team player. He even cheered his team on AFTER HE HAD FOULED OUT! That man deserves some respect so I got some for him right here. Good job Wendell, you played good last night!


Not everyone will agree on how I feel about last night, but thats ok with me. Hail State!

will definitely take issue with your 'take' on Wendell. The line on him last night ... 22 minutes ... 2 points ... 4 rebounds ... 2 TOs and 5 fouls.


I saw Wendell unable to guard 'anyone' on the other team, unable to block out at all (Umass ended with 21 offensive rebounds, and unable to movewith or without the ball.


I watched both OOC games in MSG this year and saw him contribute, score, guard and hustle. I didn't see that at ALL last night.

 

[DAWG61]

did anybody watch Iona last night? That team has 1-2 possible pro's yet they looked like the Miami Heat in the first half.

Did you happen to catch the 'rest' of the game where BYU went zone and Iona blew a 25 point lead? Ional team you are using as an example set the NCAA record as the 'greatest' colapse EVER in NCAA dance history.


That's the coach you want to replace Stans?

actually no I hadn't seen the second half when I posted that. I saw the first half, made my post and now am back after watching the second half. Absolutely amazing choke by Iona. Iona had almost 60 points in the first half and finished with 72 points for the game. Wtf happened last night to Valley and Iona?!!? Back to back biggest collapses I've ever seen.

 

[99grad]

The time to do something was the last half of the last game of the season, after we had already wasted what should have been a successful season, instead of trying to salvage some form of team chemistry?

 

[GOODDAWG]

There are more important things than basketball. LIKE SOMEONE'S LIFE. Get over yourself.

 

[fishwater99]

They were up 20 in the 2nd half vs Texas Southern and won by 2. Same thing happened last night, and they lost.

 

[majp51]

Well though out post, if you believe that people want RS gone only for this years debacle, deleted

<div>The Problem Gooddawg is that this is not a one year aberration, but a continuing trend. Rick has managed only 2 NCAA trips in the past 7 years, and only 1 At large berth. Every year during the Rick Roll, we have identified a "cancer" on the team. This year the anointed scapegoat is Renardo Sidney. Now he may have been a cancer but he joins a long list of "cancers", including the likes of Ravern Johnson, Walter Sharpe, Gary Ervin, The Delk Twins, and the list goes on.</div><div>
</div><div>2 Tourney invites in 7 Years. A horrible record in the Tourney over 14 years. An over inflated record due to cleverly scheduling horrible OOC opponents. A very overrated recruiting prowess. Those are the reasons people are wanting a change, and this season is just the tipping point for others.</div><div>
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[Eureka Dog]

Sidneyloose after the Punchfest in Paradise, but he didn't. Stans could have made the move instead of sending Renardo toHouston, hoping that JohnLucas could work some counseling magic with Sidney. (Is Sidney onthe cover of the brochure for Lucas's business?) Stans saw how the team performed, without Renardo, on the European tour. Stans saw how physically fitSidney was on the first day of practice. I believe in second chances, but after that,a pattern is established... the mold is set and hard to break.

I don't hate Sidney... and to a degree, Stans seems to have acted as an enabler. Tough disciplineis often the only way to correct some things.

 

[gravedigger]

1. Renardo Sidney is one of many hundreds that have had the chance at millions of dollars and been unfortunate enough to be raised by a bunch of leaches who made sure he never had the character to make it.

2. A coach has no other 17ing job you moron. The idea that they know basketball by the time they rise above jr high head coach is a given. You cant get to this level and not know how or know how to gather people around you who do.

3.Wendells fouling out wasnt a result of the idea he hustled. He hustled this season because he lacked the talent to play barring that. It was his only chance to see the floor. Problem is, this group of 17ing morons on this board would rather ***** about untalented people trying than talented people using up maroon and white towels on their face to wiple off the sweat of 10 minutes of playing time in 40.

4. He's not coming back. Sat behind his older brother at the game.Great famliy...great guy....he....is....GONE.