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Im sorry if I personally have offended anyone. This board is supposed to be enlightening and fun. Don't take anything I say personally, I will not attack or berate anyone on the board. If you can't let go and not accept my sincere apology, Then I guess you can KISS MY SWEET ***!!! LOL :p
 

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Irreverent at its worse. Definitely no peacemaker in you. Following board rules as well as rules for decency are not your forte.

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You will.

Some here seem to lurk in the shadows until they feel their confidence soaring by the unmerciful voices of like-minded others. They then advantageously pounce on what they perceive as the already weakened prey because they can sense and know they'll receive the support from a certain few others - allies, or pack, if you will. If one pays enough attention, it's not too terribly difficult to see.

Such cowards find comfort in these supportive, fertile, and loathsome breeding grounds.

As always, I could be mistaken.

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Man, it's really hard to read this board sometimes. It's like TMZ in here. I've been critical of the coaching staff...Mike Stoops in particular. I think he's done a pretty decent job this season on the whole with periods of "what the hell is going on" thrown in, but that's not unusual, and I don't recall anyone griefing me about it. They may disagree and think I don't know what I'm talking about, but I really don't recall anyone jumping on me so hard that I felt I couldn't say what I wanted to.

All sides in this make it embarrassing to read this stuff. I'm betting if everyone were face to face that it would be much more civil. It's easy to get on here and troll other people like high school kids on facebook, but people visiting this site see this and it forms an impression. Think about that and realize that your post represents an impression not just of you but of the school, the fan base and the people of Oklahoma in general.

I know I get on here and act goofy once in a while but it's all in good fun and I try not to really put anyone down or call them out and I like that aspect of the board. The mean spiritedness that I've seen the past few weeks is not fun and it's not in the spirit of what this place should be about. Let's have a little self control and make it fun again.
 

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Man, it's really hard to read this board sometimes. It's like TMZ in here. I've been critical of the coaching staff...Mike Stoops in particular. I think he's done a pretty decent job this season on the whole with periods of "what the hell is going on" thrown in, but that's not unusual, and I don't recall anyone griefing me about it. They may disagree and think I don't know what I'm talking about, but I really don't recall anyone jumping on me so hard that I felt I couldn't say what I wanted to.

All sides in this make it embarrassing to read this stuff. I'm betting if everyone were face to face that it would be much more civil. It's easy to get on here and troll other people like high school kids on facebook, but people visiting this site see this and it forms an impression. Think about that and realize that your post represents an impression not just of you but of the school, the fan base and the people of Oklahoma in general.

I know I get on here and act goofy once in a while but it's all in good fun and I try not to really put anyone down or call them out and I like that aspect of the board. The mean spiritedness that I've seen the past few weeks is not fun and it's not in the spirit of what this place should be about. Let's have a little self control and make it fun again.
"Speaking words of wisdom, let it be".

Outstanding post Zero. All of us here act goofy - sometimes embarrassingly for an adult - at times.

It seems the board is returning to those self-serving cliques. Voices of reason is all it takes to set it back on a proper foundation.

It seems some folks are more interested in their ego and in taking advantage of the fact (not so sure if it is a fact) that this board is modless at the moment. Absent the threat of consequences (banning/rebuke), some are emboldened to turn this forum into an uncivil free-for-all.

What's truly disturbing is that those that know or should know better are the biggest advocate for the mayhem. You can see it in the "likes" registered to self-serving, self-promoting negative posts.

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Been said before and it still holds true. There are different groups of posters on this message board. One group (a handful), demands that posters keep all things OU sacred, which in their mind means that no one is permitted to be critical of a coach or player unless THEY feel like doing it themselves. And they justify doing so because THEY understand the game of football more than other members of the board. They use words like *******, dumb ***, douche bag, stupid, and idiot to describe those that are in the other, smaller group. That particular small group "dares" to challenge the first group, and they pick at the sore because they know that eventually those in group one will crack and go to using phrases like or similar to "eat ****", "you don't know the first thing about football", "feel your own dick", "fellate yourself", "you obviously are ignorant or utterly stupid". Then group one does exactly what group two does. They challenge group two, e.g., "bring it on", which group two comes back with "are you drunk", knowing that the sore is now wide open. So as in the thread about the Baylor QB, a simple post "we have a long history of making inexperienced QB's look like AA" turns into a 4 page thread that shouldn't have be allowed to go beyond page 1. Yet another group, which IMO is the larger group stays away from threads like this when it gets so filthy and rude. Members of that group seem to know when to stop trying to make their point and just go on without becoming so upset about what someone else feels about the subject. I haven't posted in over a week because I didn't feel like I could add to any thread, but I have been following the board and have "liked" posts written by members of all groups. I'm not defending any poster in group 1 or 2, and I am on record as saying that I don't think Bob Stoops will win another national championship at OU. But I also feel and have posted that I can't think of another coach that OU could bring to Norman that would be better than Coach Stoops. If there is one out there that is better and OU could hire, I don't know who he is. I've asked the board and haven't gotten any name that I would want more than Bob. I guess some would say that I am just riding the fence. I don't see it that way. Its my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their opinion without being demonized, ridiculed, and made to feel that they need to just forget about the Sooner Message Board. That is too bad....and sucks. It doesn't have to be that way.
 

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Man, it's really hard to read this board sometimes. It's like TMZ in here. I've been critical of the coaching staff...Mike Stoops in particular. I think he's done a pretty decent job this season on the whole with periods of "what the hell is going on" thrown in, but that's not unusual, and I don't recall anyone griefing me about it. They may disagree and think I don't know what I'm talking about, but I really don't recall anyone jumping on me so hard that I felt I couldn't say what I wanted to.

All sides in this make it embarrassing to read this stuff. I'm betting if everyone were face to face that it would be much more civil. It's easy to get on here and troll other people like high school kids on facebook, but people visiting this site see this and it forms an impression. Think about that and realize that your post represents an impression not just of you but of the school, the fan base and the people of Oklahoma in general.

I know I get on here and act goofy once in a while but it's all in good fun and I try not to really put anyone down or call them out and I like that aspect of the board. The mean spiritedness that I've seen the past few weeks is not fun and it's not in the spirit of what this place should be about. Let's have a little self control and make it fun again.

Well said Absolute. You are definitely one of the posters whose comments I always look forward to reading. Keep up the good work.
 

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Been said before and it still holds true. There are different groups of posters on this message board. One group (a handful), demands that posters keep all things OU sacred, which in their mind means that no one is permitted to be critical of a coach or player unless THEY feel like doing it themselves. And they justify doing so because THEY understand the game of football more than other members of the board. They use words like *******, dumb ***, douche bag, stupid, and idiot to describe those that are in the other, smaller group. That particular small group "dares" to challenge the first group, and they pick at the sore because they know that eventually those in group one will crack and go to using phrases like or similar to "eat ****", "you don't know the first thing about football", "feel your own dick", "fellate yourself", "you obviously are ignorant or utterly stupid". Then group one does exactly what group two does. They challenge group two, e.g., "bring it on", which group two comes back with "are you drunk", knowing that the sore is now wide open. So as in the thread about the Baylor QB, a simple post "we have a long history of making inexperienced QB's look like AA" turns into a 4 page thread that shouldn't have be allowed to go beyond page 1. Yet another group, which IMO is the larger group stays away from threads like this when it gets so filthy and rude. Members of that group seem to know when to stop trying to make their point and just go on without becoming so upset about what someone else feels about the subject. I haven't posted in over a week because I didn't feel like I could add to any thread, but I have been following the board and have "liked" posts written by members of all groups. I'm not defending any poster in group 1 or 2, and I am on record as saying that I don't think Bob Stoops will win another national championship at OU. But I also feel and have posted that I can't think of another coach that OU could bring to Norman that would be better than Coach Stoops. If there is one out there that is better and OU could hire, I don't know who he is. I've asked the board and haven't gotten any name that I would want more than Bob. I guess some would say that I am just riding the fence. I don't see it that way. Its my opinion, and everyone is entitled to their opinion without being demonized, ridiculed, and made to feel that they need to just forget about the Sooner Message Board. That is too bad....and sucks. It doesn't have to be that way.
Awesome post Oklabama. Yours is a voice of reason. If more would post similarly, peace could be achieved on this board.

All sides have issues. And, that should be healthy. I find most posts here interesting whether I agree, disagree, or am indifferent to. Everyone has valued input.

This is an OU forum for respectable OU discussion. Enjoy OU, this board, and all it entails. Civility, inclusion, and decency should be promoted and not ego.

Some take it way too seriously and make it difficult for everyone to enjoy and be a part of.

Boomer Sooner
 

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Oklabama that was a great post..funny yet got the point across. You are one of the most respectful posters on sooner scoop and I hope you feel like I've always been respectful to you. Keep on posting.... Even if its to tell us quit talking like idiots lol
 

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When I was in Grammar School...about 100 years ago...there were those who, the moment the teacher stepped out of the room, allowed their, dark, ugly, inner selves to come out to play. It wasn't pretty, served no purpose, and never ended well...

Just sayin'...
Been there, done that...on both sides. What's funny is that I was an attention seeker as a student. I was a pain many a day to my teachers back then. Now, I'm on the receiving side. One of life's ironies.

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I am, always have been, and always will be, a "little ****" (as Pa used to say).

Share your opinions with valid insight and support and we can discuss anything with civility.
 
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bcsooner, you are a smart guy. I know it. So you have to understand that an opinion is a viewpoint about a subject that is not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. Requiring a poster to support or validate his/her opinion is what opens up the door for all the crap that has been dominating this board recently. Doing so sounds like an invitation to verbally rumble.
 

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Bama, for some clarity on my position:

Supporting one's opinion here takes minimal effort. Remarks like, "Sanchez is awful", and repeating it ad nauseum without supporting evidence is uncalled for. It becomes baseless and disrespectful when there is overwhelming evidence suggesting Sanchez is pretty damn good. One who comprehends the game could easily be critical of a specific tendency of Mr. Sanchez to bite on the double move.

I'll respect anybody's opinion if it's presented in kind.
 
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Well, I said you were smart. I understand completely in those situations, but I'd like to think I can post my opinion such as the reference to Bob Stoops I made several posts earlier without my having to validate it. Frankly I don't really know why I feel the way i do about some subjects. It's just the way I feel and I should be permitted to tell everyone. JMO.
 
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Give it up Bama. This is why I use the ignore feature with just a few posters. I should have done it months ago
 
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BW, I'm not going to fuss with anyone. I try to quit sparring after about two back and forths. bc has always been easy on me and never disrespectful. I don't go there, and appreciate it that he doesn't either. I think you're a good poster as well. Too bad you two don't like each other. Boomer!
 

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BW, I'm not going to fuss with anyone. I try to quit sparring after about two back and forths. bc has always been easy on me and never disrespectful. I don't go there, and appreciate it that he doesn't either. I think you're a good poster as well.
You are a smart man bama
 
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Well, I don't know nearly as much about football as I would like based on what seems to be required here. :D
 

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Bama, your opinion on whether or not Bob will win another NT was given in respectable fashion. It was suggested as a criticism, just your thoughts. It also doesn't require much critical thinking to understand the difficulty in attaining such lofty goals. Add in Bob's accrued tenure and it's reasonable to surmise that he likely has a limited window of opportunity to achieve said goal. The percentage that any coach is going to win the NT within the next 5 years is minimal when viewed specifically.

Again, its not so much what you say, but how you say it. You can be both critical and respectful.
 

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Here's another way of looking at it:

Some here say, "post as if you're standing face to face". Well thats fair, but how applying that same principle as if you were face to face with the coach or player one is so eager to critique.
 

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Bama, your opinion on whether or not Bob will win another NT was given in respectable fashion. It was suggested as a criticism, just your thoughts. It also doesn't require much critical thinking to understand the difficulty in attaining such lofty goals. Add in Bob's accrued tenure and it's reasonable to surmise that he likely has a limited window of opportunity to achieve said goal. The percentage that any coach is going to win the NT within the next 5 years is minimal when viewed specifically.

Again, its not so much what you say, but how you say it. You can be both critical and respectful.

Thanks, bc. I think you just told me why I think the way I do about Bob. Seriously. I'm a gambler. I would wager a good sum that Bob isn't going to win another natty within the next 5 years because of the current state of the program and how fricking difficult it is to win the damn thing. I also think the odds are pretty good that Bob hangs it up by the time he is 60. I'd like to know if and when that line comes up in Vegas.
 

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Here's another way of looking at it:

Some here say, "post as if you're standing face to face". Well thats fair, but how applying that same principle as if you were face to face with the coach or player one is so eager to critique.

Now you know that no one would say anything the least bit critical to Bob Stoops' face. That's not a fair for you to even suggest. Well maybe you would, you little ****. You know I'm screwing with you, right. One final thought then I'm out of here. Bob stopped taking questions on his radio show. Just saying. The guy doesn't have the tolerance that other head coaches have which is why he comes off as being a prick head to so many. Not that there's anything wrong with that! :cool: Good conversation, bc.
 

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Bama, for some clarity on my position:

Supporting one's opinion here takes minimal effort. Remarks like, "Sanchez is awful", and repeating it ad nauseum without supporting evidence is uncalled for. It becomes baseless and disrespectful when there is overwhelming evidence suggesting Sanchez is pretty damn good. One who comprehends the game could easily be critical of a specific tendency of Mr. Sanchez to bite on the double move.

I'll respect anybody's opinion if it's presented in kind.
Sanchez can have an off day and perform poorly. He might even do so over a 2-3 game stretch. That doesn't mean he's not a great player. My "opinion" will often reflect what I just saw.

Guess that makes me the resident "Richard Head".

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Fortworth that's your right to have an opinion, that's what message boards are for. I feel differently about Sanchez so we will just have to agree to disagree
 

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Yes, everyone here is free to share their opinion, and in turn all others are free to have an opinion of that opinion.

Note, however, there is a difference between and a baseless insult and an opinion. If you're free to say 'player x sucks' or 'coach y' is an idiot, than I'm free to suggest the same of you.

When baseless "opinions" persist (for multiple years) those such as myself grow weary and agitated that anyone claiming themselves a devoted fan could be so bitter toward the players and coaches.
 

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I would like to buy in on Sanchez' future earnings even though I scream at him sometimes. Hey, it's what fans do. We want perfection. He's not the cream of the crop for everyone but I'm happy he's playing for OU. Most everyone (99.999) are glad he is a Sooner, but many want him to be better. Nothing wrong with that.
 
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I was watching an NFL game over the weekend and the #1 rated corner in the league, according to their ranking system, has something like a 45% completion percentage against him. Some of the expectations people have on our players is completely unreasonable. The guys OUr guys line up against are pretty good athletes, too. They're going to win some battles.
 

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IMO Thomas has developed into our best guy in the secondary. None of them are elite, but Thomas has definitely improved since last year
 
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Veritas that's understandable... However elite or great corners do not get picked on. Sanchez isn't terrible, he just isn't as good as some have built him up to be. I'm not sure if we have any great players this year but some really good ones. Mayfield, Shepard, striker to name a few
 
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Yes, everyone here is free to share their opinion, and in turn all others are free to have an opinion of that opinion.

Note, however, there is a difference between and a baseless insult and an opinion. If you're free to say 'player x sucks' or 'coach y' is an idiot, than I'm free to suggest the same of you.

When baseless "opinions" persist (for multiple years) those such as myself grow weary and agitated that anyone claiming themselves a devoted fan could be so bitter toward the players and coaches.
As for your 1st two sentences, I have no problem as long as it's civil.

I don't know what you mean by an "insult" and "baseless". Those are words used primarily by an "elitest", IMHO. I don't recall an instance of such here and I'm an avid reader of the Scoop even though I don't post daily. I believe this is more a figment of your imagination or interpretation. I don't recall anyone using "sucks" or "idiot" when referring to a coach or player. I've seen those irrationally applied by a few posters to another poster. Thus, I'm calling shenanigans on this.

I even don't know the meaning of your, "a devoted fan could be so bitter towards the players and coaches". I think you have it wrong. Instead, what I see are a few posters who are SO BITTER TOWARDS OTHER POSTERS over a civilly expressed and relatively benign opinion on an innocuous message forum. That's difficult for me to fathom.

Some here seem so protective of the players and coaches that they become somewhat unhinged at the smallest perceived slight against said team representatives. That's not healthy, IMHO, and does a disservice to the board.

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Shepard, Striker and Perine are all elite players for the collegiate level. Mixon, Alexander, Sanchez, Parker, Thomas and Seibert are all "very good" ball players.
 
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Shepard, Striker and Perine are all elite players for the collegiate level. Mixon, Alexander, Sanchez, Parker, Thomas and Seibert are all "very good" ball players.

I agree 100%. Next year, I hope the others will jump up into the elite status. Don't all Sooner fans! Hope they all stay another year. Early departures are a big part why we haven't won another natty, IMO. I'm convinced so please don't waste your time. I won't reply.