This is what I find ridiculous about the Turner situation.

Coach34

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Robert Jackson was 3rd team All-SEC and later played in a FF- talented
Tang Hamilton was on the Miami Heat roster awhile- talented
Ty Washington was 2nd team All-SEC and a draft pick- talented
White- talented
Patterson- talented

What he did not inherit was a team that had experienced success- but saying they weren't a talented team is flat out wrong
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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dawgstudent said:
He didn't inherit a talented team. He inherited a couple of talented players.


That doesn't work with Coach on anything to do with Stansbury. He is always right and everyone else is always wrong and he will never stop the counterpoints on his skewed point of view.
 

Coach34

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that a team with a couple of players that made All-SEC in their careers as well as one that played in a few NBA games - in addition to the others we agreed were talented players was a talented team
 
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The point is that it takes money(a lot of it) and huge amounts of alumni support/resources to be what many of you consider to be an elite basketball program. MSU has neither and won't have either for the foreseeable future. What I find laughable is that we have so many fans that think Stansbury's constant winning is beneath us and all we have to do is snap our fingers for the next Roy Williams or Coach K to come walking through our doors. Let's say we fire Stansbury and bring in the next hidden coaching star. Here are the scenarios...

Worst Possible Scenario - New coach is in over his head, starts losing local recruits to rival SEC schools, and the team struggles. After a couple years, fans get tired of losing and a Hump that has sold out season tickets for years is now half empty for most games. Each year begins with fans hoping to make the NIT.

Best Possible Scenario - New coach snags a couple high profile recruits, catches lightning in a bottle, and makes a quick deep run in the NCAA Tournament. Following instant success, coach leaves MSU for better job.

Most Likely Scenario - New coach enters and takes a couple years to do some "house cleaning" and bring in new recruits. Team struggles for 2-3 years. Coach brings in a more structured offensive style but loses focus on the defensive/rebounding aspect of it, and the team improves in one area while falling off in others. Assuming the coach doesn't get fired, somewhere between years 3 and 4 the fans get excited because they finally have a team that may make it to the NCAA tournament, and a lot of us think back to years past when we expected that every year.

So I ask, what of these scenarios sounds so much better than what we have now? If you say the best possible scenario, that's fine, but I'd also say that there's about a 1% chance of that happening. Stansbury is a frustrating enigma to say the least. I'll even admit that I would not have been upset in the least had he taken the Clemson job. Sometimes, it's time for a change. However, it amazes me that we have so many fans that think we're just a coach firing away from making final 4 runs. The focus and finances will have to change throughout out entire athletic department before MSU basketball will achieve what some of you hope for.
 

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How many SEC players did you develop coach? I can only assume since you are such a great coach you filled Div 1A to the brim. Give us those stats.
 

Coach34

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I've coached:

5 SEC players (3 football, 2 baseball)
11 D-1 players
1 Division II All-American

2 NFL players
1 AAA baseball player (highest to date)

anything else?
 

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Coach34 said:
I've coached:

5 SEC players (3 football, 2 baseball)
11 D-1 players
1 Division II All-American

2 NFL players
1 AAA baseball player (highest to date)

anything else?
"Anything else?"

Yeah, how are Pegand the kids, Bud and Kelly, doing these days?
 

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I bet you could throw a football clean over them mountains, couldn't you Uncle Rico?
 

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I think Coach should be banned just to mess with him for a little while. If you took him away from this board he would have so little of a life that he would do ANYTHING to beg his way back on, kind of like when he apologized when he knew he went too far with HD.

The board is to C34 like World of Warcraft is to the losers that play it, it's all he has in his life and he wouldn't know what to do if he couldn't post every 4 seconds. Dawgstudent sucks