This one is on Mullen
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Catch the ball and protect the QB and it doesnt matter because we win. Bumphis played bad, Berry played bad, especially on that last dropped pass. You can maybe put blame on Mullen for the lack of running in the 2nd half. But if we catch the ball, we win. Plain and simple.
I didn't think it was that poorly called except for having Russell throw it 3 straight times in the late 3rd quarter. This game rest squarely on Berry and Bumphis who missed must catches. Thankfully the dropped endzone jump pass still resulted in a TD a couple plays later but our WR missed to many must catches
how can you come out in the second half, run the ball down their throat for a TD, pull a riverboat gambler onside kick, then lost momentum by going all Tyrod Taylor on the ball? Just heave it down the field.<div>
</div><div>Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.</div><div>
</div><div>But yeah, Berry has to catch that ball on the last drive. Just didn't look it into his hand. It was perfectly thrown.</div>
</div><div>Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.</div><div>
</div><div>But yeah, Berry has to catch that ball on the last drive. Just didn't look it into his hand. It was perfectly thrown.</div>
Overall, I was impressed tonight. There's work to be done, but Mullen has obviously improved the program. I was rooting for you guys tonight. I like Mullen a lot.
I understand you take a shot down field with Russell on that pass to Clark but Relf should have been in there running the option instead of Russell.
Yes Bumphis had a very bad game but we allowed ourselves to get away from the run late in game and it cost us the game. The drop passes just add to it but we got away from the game plan.
That said its over, ready for LSU next week.
Yes Bumphis had a very bad game but we allowed ourselves to get away from the run late in game and it cost us the game. The drop passes just add to it but we got away from the game plan.
That said its over, ready for LSU next week.
just b/c we woulda/coulda won if the receivers had made those catches doesn't mean Mullen's decision-making in the second half wasn't terrible.
It was. It was awful. We come out after recovering that onsides kick and run the 17in' ball down their throats and we win that game.
That said, even in spite of Mullen, we could've won the game if the receivers make catches. They should be ashamed.
It was. It was awful. We come out after recovering that onsides kick and run the 17in' ball down their throats and we win that game.
That said, even in spite of Mullen, we could've won the game if the receivers make catches. They should be ashamed.
Dropped passes lose games. I'm too frustrated to even read and post on sixpack. thats how frustrating this loss is.
We should not have been trying to drive for the tie. We should have been in the lead trying to ice the game.
Game is 7-7 in the first half, we have momentum, we are driving the ball, and we send in Russell. He promptly throws a pick, and Auburn scored a TD. We then fumble and Auburn kicks a FG. Bam we are down 17-7. The first half changed on QB mismanagement. Mullen outcoached himself. You don't have to be smarter than everyone else, just go with what is working. The reason to bring in the other QB is when things aren't working.
Then, we drive the ball for a TD on the first possession of the second half using the option running game. We onside it, which was a great move. Then we promptly try to throw the ball every down, first with Relf and afterwards with Russell. Our D makes stop after stop, yet we refuse to go back with what worked. When we finally did, it was really too late.
This game was lost by coaching. Even with our WRs dropping balls left and right, we win if we stick with what worked in the first and second halves. Mullen tries to beat the D to the punch and coaching his team right out of this game. He'll learn some day, hopefully soon.</p>
Game is 7-7 in the first half, we have momentum, we are driving the ball, and we send in Russell. He promptly throws a pick, and Auburn scored a TD. We then fumble and Auburn kicks a FG. Bam we are down 17-7. The first half changed on QB mismanagement. Mullen outcoached himself. You don't have to be smarter than everyone else, just go with what is working. The reason to bring in the other QB is when things aren't working.
Then, we drive the ball for a TD on the first possession of the second half using the option running game. We onside it, which was a great move. Then we promptly try to throw the ball every down, first with Relf and afterwards with Russell. Our D makes stop after stop, yet we refuse to go back with what worked. When we finally did, it was really too late.
This game was lost by coaching. Even with our WRs dropping balls left and right, we win if we stick with what worked in the first and second halves. Mullen tries to beat the D to the punch and coaching his team right out of this game. He'll learn some day, hopefully soon.</p>
too many overthrown or underthrown passes. receivers were diving, jumping, and rolling. i know twice we would have scored with good passes
if we would have won ya'll would have been proclaiming how much of a genius mullen is but since our recievers drop ten passes ya'll think he is the worst coach ever. ya'll need to shut the 17 up. we played a good game tonight and lost in the last seconds to a good team. its the sec not the 17ing cusa
mullen can stay here for as long as he wants as long as i'm concerned....i'll pay what i can to help that out....it's just nice to at least be in these type games and have a real chance at winning....some of you need to realize what we were without mullen in these type games.
ultimately has responsibility for winning and losing, and I know he will take full responsibility. With that being said, it isn't his fault. Our guys didn't make the plays they have to make to win games of this caliber. The catches stand out because we dropped a few critical ones, but to me the QB play was far worse. We had more bad passes than good dropped passes. We have no running game asside from Relf running on the option, so there wasn't enough there to help bail out the poor throws and catches.
The defense played good enough to win for sure, but again you have to make plays when they are there for the making. Broomfield had a gift wrapped pick 6 on the bubble screen and dropped it. Have to make that play.
It's frustrating to be in this kind ofgame and lose.....again.
The defense played good enough to win for sure, but again you have to make plays when they are there for the making. Broomfield had a gift wrapped pick 6 on the bubble screen and dropped it. Have to make that play.
It's frustrating to be in this kind ofgame and lose.....again.
to overcome the horrible QB management and playcalling tonight.
Those of you who are blaming the passing game, let me ask this question: why was this game depending on the passing game? Did they stuff our option running game? Nope. Were we moving the ball with Relf running the option? Yes. Then why were we depending on the passing game to win the game?
The only answer is we went away from our offensive strength which was working and placed the game solely on the shoulders of our weakness, the downfield passing game, which wasn't working.
Those of you who are blaming the passing game, let me ask this question: why was this game depending on the passing game? Did they stuff our option running game? Nope. Were we moving the ball with Relf running the option? Yes. Then why were we depending on the passing game to win the game?
The only answer is we went away from our offensive strength which was working and placed the game solely on the shoulders of our weakness, the downfield passing game, which wasn't working.
will definitely take this one, as he should. Every loss is ultimately on coach. I was really disappointed in the receivers, even if we should have been running more option. Bumphis and Berry were dropping short stuff, too. I thought Relf actually managed the game ok. He missed some passes, but he made some really nice looking throws downfield. The pass to Arceto (interference call) was good and the Berry drop late was a great throw. He needs to just settle down.
That being said, damn it we really should run more triple option. There were positives from the game (defensive adjustments/punting), but I'd rather not try and be positive tonight.
That being said, damn it we really should run more triple option. There were positives from the game (defensive adjustments/punting), but I'd rather not try and be positive tonight.
The plays were there in the passing game all night.
Either the QB or the WR didn't execute.
I know that's a Croom excuse, but the receivers were wide open and the qb couldn't deliver or they dropped the pass that hit them in the hands.
Seeing how wide open the passing game was, I can't blame Mullen for going to it when y'all think we should have run.
Either the QB or the WR didn't execute.
I know that's a Croom excuse, but the receivers were wide open and the qb couldn't deliver or they dropped the pass that hit them in the hands.
Seeing how wide open the passing game was, I can't blame Mullen for going to it when y'all think we should have run.
Simply because it happened the whole damn game. Our one successful sustained drive, we ran the ball. AU rarely stopped our running game, we just failed to use it. That is Storm's whole point. Win or lose, the coaching decisions sucked because we did not use our strength. What we did tonight would be akin to Arkansas running the ball 50 times a game with Mallett only throwing 8 to 10 passes. Yes, the recievers were open a lot & dropped some easy passes. Yes, the QBs made some terrible throws as well. However, the coaching staff never adjusted to the fact that our passing game was not working. It doesn't matter if it wasn't working due to great coverage or due to our recievers & QBs being ineffective, it still wasn't working. Mullen never adjusted to that.
Really? We had 117 rushing yards on 34 attempts. That's a very Croom-esque 3.4 yards per carry. Our leading rusher was Chad Bumphis. Not Robert Elliot, not the great Chris Relf. Our starting slot receiver. And just behind him was the fullback, Hanrihan.
We had success running the ball during one drive...to start the second half. Beyond that, they stoned us pretty good. I agree that the playcalling was moronic after the onside kick there, but don't make it sound like we were running it up their ***.
is skewed though by how many times Relf was sacked while trying to pass. I remember one series where he was sacked on 3 straight plays & we ended up with about 4th & 25. I can remember some other times as well where he was stuffed on pass plays.
I agree that we weren't running it up their ***, so that probably wasn't the best way to phrase it. However our one successful drive came using the ground game. Hell, our gift TD from their 20 came on the ground. So, any real success we had was on the ground. As you said, the playcalling was moronic after the onside kick, which is my real beef with the coaching staff tonight. I could easily forgive the 1st half if they had stuck with what was working to start the 2nd half. If my memory serves, we did not attempt to run in the second half very much. There was simply no reason to abandon it down only 3 pts with a quarter and a half to play.
I agree that we weren't running it up their ***, so that probably wasn't the best way to phrase it. However our one successful drive came using the ground game. Hell, our gift TD from their 20 came on the ground. So, any real success we had was on the ground. As you said, the playcalling was moronic after the onside kick, which is my real beef with the coaching staff tonight. I could easily forgive the 1st half if they had stuck with what was working to start the 2nd half. If my memory serves, we did not attempt to run in the second half very much. There was simply no reason to abandon it down only 3 pts with a quarter and a half to play.
Our running game could have definitely been better. We showed no confidence in our running game tonight. Robert Elliot ran like he still thought he was going to get hurt again. I think the loss of Montrell Conner really hurt tonight because we needed that bruising running back tonight (Anthony Dixon) and I think that was the closest thing we had to that. The dropped passes really hurt us bad especially that drop by Berry late in the game. In the end it is over and as much as I hate it we need to put this one behind us and go into Tiger Stadium next weekend and get our **** together. We need to stick to our game plan and not start trying to pass on every down. I love Russell just as much as any but he is a freshman and we don't need to give him a situation where he needs to save us in a bad situation. If we put him in we need to balance him out with a running game and not expect him to come in and set the world on fire.
Ultimately Mullen and his staff need to put the players in a position to be successful. They were put in this position on several occasions and didn't execute. The play calling may have been spotty at times and that is on the staff, however throwing and catching is one thing out of his control in the heat of the moment. If the player's weren't successfully making these plays in practice, they wouldn't have been called in a game situation. </p>
with a short field you take a shot to the endzone. Its a freebie. If it doesn't work then you are stuck with 2 and 10 which is generally a passing down. Steve Spurrier does it every time and killed people with it when he was at Florida.
The triple option was working but we couldn't hold onto the football. We got in a situation late in the game where we had to throw. Did Mullen make some questionable calls? Yep. But we got beat by what I believe is a damn good football team especially when "the rented Mule" is average or better. We are gonna be decent to pretty good too.
And C34 is right. Relf is the guy right now. Russell has tons of potential but isn't there yet.
The triple option was working but we couldn't hold onto the football. We got in a situation late in the game where we had to throw. Did Mullen make some questionable calls? Yep. But we got beat by what I believe is a damn good football team especially when "the rented Mule" is average or better. We are gonna be decent to pretty good too.
And C34 is right. Relf is the guy right now. Russell has tons of potential but isn't there yet.