Can someone please explain to me WTF this ref is doing and calling out there? Ive never seen stall calls and warning like this. Its truly pathetic
This ref vs O$U
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The only call I have had a problem with was when he blew it dead on the edge when Block was still in and about to score
Definitely weird, but it's hard to focus when Iowa is getting their asses so thoroughly kicked, lol.
First let me say, Iowa has gotten their butt kicked. But this referee is determined to interject in every match. Worst over officiating on the young season. Maybe Paycom has a bonus for most calls?
The block action call was horrible, that was going to be 3 + backpoints. Dual still would've been out of hand but Block looked great.
We need to produce more offense, that said.
The mats were horrible and the refs were worse, the AntiIowa BS needs to be stopped with these ********
The mats were horrible and the refs were worse, the AntiIowa BS needs to be stopped with these ********
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That guy that was the second ref against Ohio state and the main ref against Oklahoma state never does Iowa any favors.
It is kind of interesting that if Block gets the TD call and Endene gets his pin called we would've been 18-18 going to heavyweight.
Kept calling stalling on our guy and the very next match their guy was doing the same thing and never got called for stalling once.
Got home, Wife says(no pics) IOWA is losing bad! I figure she is F*ckin with me but.... In any case I turn it on and Caliendo is up and we are down 20-zip!!!!WTF!!!!
IRON HAWK brings the GOOD LUCK as usual and we real off 4 straight!!! As was pointed out, The REF sucked!!! The MATS sucked!!!!
When I go back and watch, 125- Do NOT care about "getting caught"!!! When I wrestled, the BUILDING could have fallen on us and as long as we were fresh(and many of us it did not matter if we were gassed either) You just could not pin us!!!! Get the F out!!!!
133 that kid looks to be the real deal and a bad match up for AYALA.
141 we don't have the answer there!!! Need to do better recruiting(which it appears we are!!!) to fill ALL weights with HAMMERS!!!
The BLOCK match was the one I was saying, "what am I missing" !?!?!? Why no challenge on the TD???? Was it because the A-hole blew it dead????
As was said, 197 could have been a fall, and with the win at 149 and BIG Ben, IOWA wins so WHATEVER. That being said, I hope F*** state is NOT as good as they appear to be!!!
I have to go BREAK SHEEeeet now!!!
IRON HAWK brings the GOOD LUCK as usual and we real off 4 straight!!! As was pointed out, The REF sucked!!! The MATS sucked!!!!
When I go back and watch, 125- Do NOT care about "getting caught"!!! When I wrestled, the BUILDING could have fallen on us and as long as we were fresh(and many of us it did not matter if we were gassed either) You just could not pin us!!!! Get the F out!!!!
133 that kid looks to be the real deal and a bad match up for AYALA.
141 we don't have the answer there!!! Need to do better recruiting(which it appears we are!!!) to fill ALL weights with HAMMERS!!!
The BLOCK match was the one I was saying, "what am I missing" !?!?!? Why no challenge on the TD???? Was it because the A-hole blew it dead????
As was said, 197 could have been a fall, and with the win at 149 and BIG Ben, IOWA wins so WHATEVER. That being said, I hope F*** state is NOT as good as they appear to be!!!
I have to go BREAK SHEEeeet now!!!
Agreed, both wrestlers feet were clearly still in bounds if my vision hasn't failed me.
He seemed to call oob in another match where a guy still clearly had a foot in (although it had no impact on scoring)
Totally agree guys. If those nit picky refs didn’t make us lose by fall, 6 points, 1 point, Tech Fall, major decision and a forfeit. We could have stolen this one.
Godamn refs really stole this one from us. If only we didn’t get f****ed those first 5 super close matches!!
Godamn refs really stole this one from us. If only we didn’t get f****ed those first 5 super close matches!!
Nobody is blaming the ref for us getting our *** whooped. WTF are you even talking about?
Then why bring it up? Made absolutely ZERO difference in the outcome.
First time on a message board? It’s okay to say the official was a total jackass while also acknowledging that Iowa got their asses handed to them tonight lol.
I have no doubt that Iowa beats tOSU in their next dual. Just have to flush this one and move on.
He’s a well known PSU troll from the other board. He’s not here in good faith
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there were bad calls in OKST too. But since we lost, several dorks are complaining about this tOSU dual. What about that takedown? That take down the wiped from Ferrari was criminal. Some stall calls were inconsistent, called one way, but not the other.
We wrestled in Tulsa Oklahoma. Some of you act like officiating has been absolutely stellar up until the dual we lose and then that’s when the post come out.
The “we’re not saying that’s why we lost” is BS. It’s exactly what you’re Implying. And anyone who disagrees as a Penn State fan or a troll. You’re probably the same dweebs that think Hawkeye football had a shot at a natty champ every year.
Some of you guys are so weird with location. I live in eastern Iowa.
there were bad calls in OKST too. But since we lost, several dorks are complaining about this tOSU dual. What about that takedown? That take down the wiped from Ferrari was criminal. Some stall calls were inconsistent, called one way, but not the other.
We wrestled in Tulsa Oklahoma. Some of you act like officiating has been absolutely stellar up until the dual we lose and then that’s when the post come out.
The “we’re not saying that’s why we lost” is BS. It’s exactly what you’re Implying. And anyone who disagrees as a Penn State fan or a troll. You’re probably the same dweebs that think Hawkeye football had a shot at a natty champ every year.
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It’s 100% why Block lost, and it likely will affect where he’s seeded come March. Ferrari battled through, but something flukey easily could happen there and if he loses, well now his seeding is affected in March. I literally haven’t seen one poster say or even slightly imply that’s why WE (the team) lost. And it wasn’t just this dual, Caliendo lost on a f’n terrible call. Does he end up winning, who knows, but that call was criminal to end the match
The Caliendo takedown was the right call. Leg in is hip control. Always called this way with a whizzer and far leg in too which is same position.
Bailey’s stall calls were also correct. Can’t back off the mat.
I don’t understand the OOB call on Block. Although the angle showed you cannot see the oob line so it is possible they were completely out and then Block brought his foot back in. Would need another angle to say for certain.
Bailey’s stall calls were also correct. Can’t back off the mat.
I don’t understand the OOB call on Block. Although the angle showed you cannot see the oob line so it is possible they were completely out and then Block brought his foot back in. Would need another angle to say for certain.
What changed in those 5seconds to go from no td to a td? They were in the same exact position…
The first takedown sequence is the one that really got me. I know they messed with "reaction" time now, so maybe that was a flash takedown under the rules, but Caliendo's momentum never stopped and he rolled that move straight through, almost like a lat drop situation where you are on your back for a very short time depending on how clean you hit it. I just never thought there was control for Locket in that exchange...
Nothing, should have been called as soon as the leg was in.
Hard disagree. A whizzer is not the same impediment to control that a head and arm is. There is a reason Lockett wasn’t driving through because he would end up on his back. That’s not control.
Refs were horrible the whole tournament, and not just against us. I did a lot of yelling at my TV during meets we weren't even in. The NCAA refereeing seems to get worse every year, and that is hard to do, considering it's been very bad for a long time. They can't even get calls right with the "independent" replays half the time. My Finals scorecard had LOTS of notes on the ref. Wrong calls and inconsistency both.
And what was up with the mats? It was like a skating rink all weekend. I've never seen the mats need to be toweled off like that in 50+ years of watching wrestling. I was starting to think the roof leaked.
And what was up with the mats? It was like a skating rink all weekend. I've never seen the mats need to be toweled off like that in 50+ years of watching wrestling. I was starting to think the roof leaked.
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I get the can’t back off the mat stall calls. IF they are truly backing off the mat and not being forced backwards. What I disagree with is when the ref is telling them to get back to middle or circle and they are trying to do so, but the opponent is blocking them from doing that and then they call stalling. That doesnt make any sense. Also Voinivich was warned for stalling when we was in the middle and not backing up and even the OSU wrestler got to his foot/leg. It happened a second time, he was in the middle not backing up and this time the ref warned him and called stalling all in the same motion and he even got taken down. That is idiotic reffing at its finest
Every match matters. That early stoppage on the the block action near the edge could have led to a takedown which might have won him the match. That win and now loss could affect seeding in March. I for one, want all of the Iowa wrestlers to have their best possible chance for success come March.
They will wrestle in a dual and have many commons it's ONE match in November . It's not Feb 23 yet
It should be called both ways. I think it was the next match where the OSU wrestler was doing the same thing and not one stall call on him.
How do you know they’ll wrestle in a dual? One could miss it for any reason, hell someone could duck it for seeding purposes at big 10’s. We’ve seen Tom Ryan want his guy to lose so he could have a better path on the backside before.
The referee in the championship sure appeared biased with the calls. But the worse part of the weekend was the "independent" reviews. Both Cali and Angelo looked to get hosed by them. If Brands feels like Hawks aren't going to get a fair shake, maybe the wont go back despite the dirty money. Paycom going to have to clean this up.
Yep, if that was a takedown then so was Big Mo's off the whistle of his Ohio State match before the other guy managed to get out of harm's way and to his feet. I personally think reaction time is dumb and have no problem with a 3 and 2 (or 2 and 2 previously) since it's way easier for everyone to see and agree on, but that's not the way they've called it in folkstyle in recent years.