we got our *** kicked by Auburn but I don't think we should be throwing in the towel already, make some adjustments (never play Zach Smith again) and hold out on chalking up this season as a bust. We had a really bad 1st and 3rd quarter but you have to give Auburn more credit than we are giving them, they looked better than we expected.
This season isn't lost on one loss...
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I got the wool sheared off me with the Auburn loss; however, I think Auburn may be much better than everyone was predicting. They may contend for the West title if they continue to play like they did. I am hoping that we learn from our mistakes and make the necessary adjustments to be competitive. I would like to think we had a bad night and come out strong against Vandy.
IF Torbush adjusts his defense from here on out. Knowing that we are M-State, that probably won't happen, and that's why I want his *** gone.
Maybe I've been scarred from Croom and McCorvey though.
Maybe I've been scarred from Croom and McCorvey though.
Is Auburn much better than expected are is the MSU defense much worse? Auburn is definitely better as they also had over 500 yards against LT. But I don't know if they are as much better as we made them look. Time will tell.
I would be shocked if Mullen just stands around and watches our defense suck this bad without at least trying to do something about it. And if we don't see some real improvement this season, I'd be shocked if Torbush is still employed on November 30.
Call me a pessimist but we are three recruiting classes away from being competitive. In my uneducated opinion, Croom left the cupboard so bare there is very little Mullen can do. Yes Torbush could change defenses more but the talent gap is so vast that it won't make a material difference in most games (maybe it will against MTSU)
...Torbush won't last the season if we see that week in and week out, and at this point, I'd say that without a ton of improvement, he'll be gone at the end of the year.
even stallion pointed out that they may be one of the better teams in the league this year. even so, it is still hard for me to believe that our Defense isn't vastly inferior to last year considering the losses at CB and the current talent level in the remaining positions. unfortunately for us it looks like it was a combination of our overall crappiness and Auburn's ability to confuse the hell out of us with the misdirection in their offensive scheme.
...someone posted it last week, and got ridiculed, but they have been more impressive than anybody in the division thus far, save Bama.
Taking nothing away form the terrible coaching of Torbush, Malzahn had me guessing all night. You never knew what was coming. Their tailback combo is very impressive. If their defense can be middle of the pack, they are going to beat some people.
Taking nothing away form the terrible coaching of Torbush, Malzahn had me guessing all night. You never knew what was coming. Their tailback combo is very impressive. If their defense can be middle of the pack, they are going to beat some people.
or, at least the loudest critics aren't giving him enough credit.
the guy flat out knows how to coach an offense. the numbers speak for themselves - he is one of the best offensive minds (if not the best) in the country. sure, our defense played poorly and certainly could've used some adjustments or schemes. and true, our players aren't necessarily SEC caliber - my wife even asked my why i hated zach smith so much, but then she started noticing his suckitude. but malzahn offenses are going to put up some yards. i think you have to remember that.
for me, i use this analogy for our defense. it's like fielding a ground ball in baseball. you have to play the ball, not let the ball play you. we sat back and let auburn's offense play us, instead of trying to be proactive in trying to stop it. i think that's what mullen is talking about in adjustments and putting players in position to make plays. hopefully we'll see some changes in philosophy next time we struggle to stop an opponent.
of course, not being able to play man defense on the corners hurts our ability to be aggressive, and i'm afraid this is going to be a recurring theme for this year. and with zach smith at CF or in the 2 deep, you might as well just play man.
the guy flat out knows how to coach an offense. the numbers speak for themselves - he is one of the best offensive minds (if not the best) in the country. sure, our defense played poorly and certainly could've used some adjustments or schemes. and true, our players aren't necessarily SEC caliber - my wife even asked my why i hated zach smith so much, but then she started noticing his suckitude. but malzahn offenses are going to put up some yards. i think you have to remember that.
for me, i use this analogy for our defense. it's like fielding a ground ball in baseball. you have to play the ball, not let the ball play you. we sat back and let auburn's offense play us, instead of trying to be proactive in trying to stop it. i think that's what mullen is talking about in adjustments and putting players in position to make plays. hopefully we'll see some changes in philosophy next time we struggle to stop an opponent.
of course, not being able to play man defense on the corners hurts our ability to be aggressive, and i'm afraid this is going to be a recurring theme for this year. and with zach smith at CF or in the 2 deep, you might as well just play man.
There is no way that Auburn could be the 2nd best team in the west. Did you forget about Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, and now possibly Arkansas, whom Auburn has to visit? They will face much better opponents in the coming weeks and I'm afraid that will tell us how bad things will be for us.
They face West Virginia this weekend at home and we'll see. I don't feel West Virginia is up to par with any of better SEC teams with the loss of Smith, but they will test them. Watch Auburn when they play against Alabama, and you'll see what a proper defense will do to that mickey mouse crap that they ran on us. If I counted the number of times that Todd had all day to stand back there I'd still be counting. It's been 2 games.
Wait until the Vandy game and we'll see if true adjustments are made. If Vandy runs all over us, start drinkin'.
They face West Virginia this weekend at home and we'll see. I don't feel West Virginia is up to par with any of better SEC teams with the loss of Smith, but they will test them. Watch Auburn when they play against Alabama, and you'll see what a proper defense will do to that mickey mouse crap that they ran on us. If I counted the number of times that Todd had all day to stand back there I'd still be counting. It's been 2 games.
Wait until the Vandy game and we'll see if true adjustments are made. If Vandy runs all over us, start drinkin'.
I already had two people tell me that their opinion on Mullen has changed after this game. Seriously? How fickle are some people? Mullen is 1-1 at Mississippi State and they already want the guy canned.
when they couldn't keep up with how had the damn ball on about a quarter of the plays ran during the game it started making me wonder how damn good that offense really was.
as you said, we need to see them against a proven defense but at this point i am thinking they are actually pretty good.
as you said, we need to see them against a proven defense but at this point i am thinking they are actually pretty good.
I knew Mullen would take a punch in the gut in this game, and I was interested/excited to see how he would respond. It didn't pass the smell test to me, considering I have had personally heard him lecture on numerous occassions about "creating match ups", "varing spread formations", "blah, blah, blah". Stuffing it in Dixon's gut for 40% of your plays for a total of 95 yards ain't gonna get it and it damn sure isn't "the spread".</p>