This should be interesting.....
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Multiple sources who’ve been briefed on the case and are familiar with the material obtained by feds told Yahoo Sports that the impact on the sport will be substantial and relentless. Sitting under protective order right now are the fruits of 330 days of monitoring activity by the feds, which one assistant US Attorney noted Thursday was “a voluminous amount of material.” That includes wiretaps from 4,000 intercepted calls and thousands of documents and bank records obtained from raids and confiscated computers, including those from notorious NBA agent Andy Miller.
I’m sure if Rutgers has any sembelence of dirty recruiting, they will be the headliner.
NCAA Press Release:
"Rutgers University's Basketball Program was placed on 5 year probation for buying boli's for recruits at Stuff Yer Face...multiple sources indicated that the Boli's purchased exceeded $7.50 on at least three occasions. These unprecedented violations necessitated that the NCAA take strong action, which we have done today" .
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Somehow I think this is a lot of splash and headlines but nothing is going to happen of any relevance...so what if a coach or player in the league got paid 3-6 years ago...if there are scholarship reductions and actually banning of programs for multiple programs then I'll be shocked.
Sadly I doubt the "Blue Bloods" programs get caught most of their cheating gives "jobs" to parents of recruits thru companies run by alumni of that school they can sweep under the rugs of that company, or "mortgages", or "leasing" cars, or the various others way to "legally" pay recruits without suspicion.
Disagree, my bet is a TON of schools are ones which recruit the NE/Middke Atlantic region, and most of those are “blue blood” hoop programs. I’ve takked about this for decades both before and since these boards: most of the BE coaches (and some old A10/ACC guys) who”built” the BE were/are the most corrupt ones out there.
Isn't the common thread supposed to be mostly Adidas ?
the list of programs known to be on the hot seat already contains:
Auburn / Louisville / Miami / Oklahoma State / South Carolina / Alabama / USC
- so the programs that are feeling the pressure do include some Nike & Under Armour schools
the list of programs known to be on the hot seat already contains:
Auburn / Louisville / Miami / Oklahoma State / South Carolina / Alabama / USC
- so the programs that are feeling the pressure do include some Nike & Under Armour schools
And how would you sell that the school presidents, Congress and the public? We're upset about not being able to bribe players and people are being indicted for breaking federal law, so we're going to break from the NCAA?
North Carolina got caught inventing make believe courses for their athletes for decades, DECADES, and got no penalty because they were clever enough to include some non-athletes in the scam. There is no there there at the NCAA.
This is great, if 40 out of top 50 are suspended from post season we will only be about 35 spots out of the Madness!
Speaking of box pool, has anyone ever been a pretty cool type of March Madness pool like this? There's 100 boxes, home and away setup like any you've been in for football. You get 2 numbers,those numbers are your numbers for every game in the tournament. There's 65 chances to win, out of 100 boxes. Last year there were 4 people that won 4 times,a couple that won 3 times, and several that won twice. any win in the first 32 games, gets your money back.Then each round after that increase how much you make, based on what you get per box. There are no bad numbers. and every game could be a winner no matter how close, or blowout. I lost 4 times last year on last second shots. Made the games extremely interesting down the stretch.
Agreed. The NCAA is more corrupt than the perpetrators here, so little will happen apart from the Feds putting some guys in jail.
And RU. In the world of college basketball (historically), we are the complete opposite of "top school."
Judging by what the NCAA did to UNC for literally doing the textbook cheating of college athletics (having the athletes not be students but just athletes), for literally decades, - nothing - I doubt anything earthshattering comes from this. Adidas will fire a bunch of execs and some NBA agents will be out of work and become sports radio analysts.
The article references "the involvement of HOF coaches, current top players, lottery picks, the nation's most distinguished and respected programs, NCAA Tournament show teams".
The good news is Rutgers meets NONE of these categories, thus, the probability goes down. This is not limited to Addidas sponsored teams and smells like the Dukes and Kentuckys of the world whom fit into every single category.
If 40 - 50 programs are involved (or spread wide whatever the number), I can't see the NCAA doing anything other than blanket amnesty, a reset (based on new committee's feedback), enforce the new rules and come up with harsher penalties moving forward. Nothing will happen outside of any legal ramifications for ones caught breaking any laws.
If Rutgers basketball is caught up in this, they're absolutely the world's worst cheaters.
The good news is Rutgers meets NONE of these categories, thus, the probability goes down. This is not limited to Addidas sponsored teams and smells like the Dukes and Kentuckys of the world whom fit into every single category.
If 40 - 50 programs are involved (or spread wide whatever the number), I can't see the NCAA doing anything other than blanket amnesty, a reset (based on new committee's feedback), enforce the new rules and come up with harsher penalties moving forward. Nothing will happen outside of any legal ramifications for ones caught breaking any laws.
If Rutgers basketball is caught up in this, they're absolutely the world's worst cheaters.
If you are the worst then you are sharing first place votes with NU. We've never won a tourney game and rarely make it there either.
Just read an article on this. This may simply be bigger than the NCAA can handle. Imagine a big name coach who is clearly implicated in paying for an athlete. What does the NCAA do? Imagine a big name program with an assistant who is implicated who then says, "But HC XXX told me to do it."
The dominos could be incredible. Coaching staffs fired. Scholarships and tournament play suspended for years. Programs given the death penalty.
Or...nothing. The NCAA could take the approach they did with UNC. Too big to fall. Stern warnings and probation all around. Conferences do nothing.
Could impact the very nature of amateur sports in the US. If no penalties, could see athletes organizing to get paid.
Watch this space.
The dominos could be incredible. Coaching staffs fired. Scholarships and tournament play suspended for years. Programs given the death penalty.
Or...nothing. The NCAA could take the approach they did with UNC. Too big to fall. Stern warnings and probation all around. Conferences do nothing.
Could impact the very nature of amateur sports in the US. If no penalties, could see athletes organizing to get paid.
Watch this space.
Yea I mean it's not like Louisville fired one of their most successful coaches ever over similar dirt.
Too many of you are missing something. This is not an NCAA investigation. The feds don't care which schools are cash cows. They just don't. The issue will be which schools they can build a strong enough case against to prosecute. This isn't "recruiting violations." This is "criminal activity." Now are there other ways to put a lid on things? Is it possible some booster could bribe an FBI agent? Anything is possible. But this is NOT business as usual.
And no, yahoos, Rutgers will not be the headline except in New Jersey, where, of course, it should be. But if we're guilty of anything in this, with our record, damn we have sucked far worse than we thought.
And no, yahoos, Rutgers will not be the headline except in New Jersey, where, of course, it should be. But if we're guilty of anything in this, with our record, damn we have sucked far worse than we thought.
I certainly hope that RU didn't cheat to get many of the players we've seen here in recent years.