This sort of pisses me off about McCorvey

[JacksonDevilDog]

He takes the job of WR's coach at South Carolina today. Great for him.

David Murray posted just a little while ago that McCorvey made the comment to him either today or yesterday, while laughing, saying, "I can have a job
tomorrow if I want."

This M'fer obviously wasn't coaching with any sense of urgency. The rest of the staff the same.

I'm so glad these clowns are gone and I can't believe I read those comments.

 

[robdogt]

coach. Why do you think Spurrier hired him so quickly? Hell, if Woody would have been given a chance to run an offense he was familiar with, Croom would still have a job. People want to sit around and blame Woody for our offensive woes. Our offense sucked because CC was really our OC.

 

[josebrown]

Aw come on if we woulda just kept trying it would have eventually worked.

 

[state319]

I completely agree.. Woody is a good coach and got blamed for things he shouldnt have gotten blamed for.. He deserved this hire.

 

[Todd4State]

position coach, maybe.

He is a bad OC. He was a failed OC at Alabama before MSU, and they were running "his" offense there. VH pointed this out to me, and I don't know why I didn't notice it before- we script the first 15 plays and normally we would come into a game and we would run the first 15 plays reasonably well. After that, it was a disaster. We took way too long to get plays in and there was just a feeling of uncertainty. That's from bad playcalling. That's from Woody. I wonder why we didn't just script the first 80 plays. I've seen Amedee, and Sparky at his worst, but Woody McCorvey is by far the worst OC I have ever seen at MSU. Woody makes Amedee look like Norm Chow.

Although, his comments were pretty arrogant, especially in light of the situation. What's even worse is he has a job and the guy who stood up for him time and time again, Sly Croom, doesn't. Maybe if Steve Spurrier needs a running backs coach, he'll put in a good word for him.

That was one thing I hated about this last staff- the arrogance. They acted like we were morons all the while they couldn't score and were doing stuff that was so incredibly stupid, my 90 year old grandmother has asked me why they made certain play calls. We are blind indeed.

 

[dawgatUSM]

I'm so confused!

 

[jwbigcreek]

Woody's offense at UA was the median value for Stallings' 7 years. I wouldn't say he was that much of a failure (unless I'm wrong & he coached more than 1996). Stallings' philosophy was a lot like Croom's. He just had more talent (& better game time coaching skills).

 

[josebrown]

Thats funny Todd, my 86 yr old grandmother is a diehard Bama fan. After our game with them she sent me an email asking me what in the world has happened to our football program. She said we looked like the most poorly coached team she has seen in some time. Naturally, she gave me the obligatory ROLL TIDE in huge red letters at the end of her message.

Back to your topic. You and VH couldn't be more correct we looked decent all year in our scripted plays. After that we went straight down the ******* and had a hard time doing anything against most everyone we played outside of Arkansas. I kept thinking our coaches were outcoaching themselves. Its like they were either coaching ten plays ahead or ten plays behind I couldn't figure it out, they made some of the stupidest and most inconsistent decision I have seen out of a coaching staff.

As clear as our staffs vision was I think our blindness has won out in the end.

 

[state319]

i dont know if you realize this.. but as was said on the radio show...the only game that McCorvey was allowed to call as the actual OC was the Arkansas game this season.. every other game.. Croom had the final say in the calls.

 

[Todd4State]

If you hire a guy as your OC, why on Earth would you NOT let them make play calls. And if you're not going to let your OC make play calls, why even have one? See Steve Spurrier.

I don't buy all of this Croom made the calls this game, Woody called this game, Rocky called this one, and we had a trained monkey named Bananas call this game.

Technically doesn't the HC have the final say in ALL calls offensive, defensive, and ST's?

It's a moot point now anyway.

 

[Mr Meoff]

Surely you're not going to let this guy get away with saying we ran a DIFFERENT offense in the Arkansas game than any other games?

 

[josebrown]

I heard that after the game from crooms too. He was just trying to help buddy ole pal woodrow keep his job in the end...funny thing, though, it didn't work.

 

[chewgumm]

reply would have been "How?!?!?"

 

[phillydawg]

McCorvey not only had been told by Croom before the OM game he wasn't being brought back next year but the dumbass (McCorvey) told his players about it before the OM game. Fact.

 

[TheBigDA]

or does him getting a new job negate the buyoutuku

 

[beachbumdawg]

he will get the difference of the two salaries:

Original Buy Out Money - New Contract @ USC = New Buy Out Money

 

[Stormrider81]

I think some State fans are just stupid. That's a mean thing to say, but it's true. I promise you guys, our offense was the exact same in that game as in the Kentucky game 3 weeks earlier. The playcalling was no better save one play - the QB sneak on 4th and inches, and even the old ladies in front of me were calling for that play. The difference in the Arknasas game wasn't a new offensive system (could our players even learn a new system in one week?), a different playcaller, or any other ridiculous theory dumb MState fans think of. We had more success against Arkansas because their D couldn't cover, couldn't tackle, could get pressure on Lee, etc. I know it sounds crazy that the opposition could have that much effect on offensive output and we'd rather dream up conspiracy theories, but it really was their defense's inability to do anything right.

 

[LR1400]

Woody is a smartass prick obviously and his comments reek of arrogance. He acts like he was staying here just for us. Dickhead.

Woodrow thanks for the trainwreck that was the offense you ran for 5 years, get the hell out of town.

I read an article where he stated how hard it was to win at MSU for "some" reason and that it had been much easier everywhere else (TN, AL). Duh!

I don't think this regime knew what it will take to win here. They were not putting in Saban hours (7-10pm type stuff during the season). Thank God this is over.

Coach Croom, thank you for what you have done for us at MSU, thanks for being a role model to these kids, good luck.

 

[Stormrider81]

"I don't buy all of this Croom made the calls this game, Woody called this game, Rocky called this one, and we had a trained monkey named Bananas call this game."

Neither should you because it is ridiculous. Remember, the same fanbase was saying in 2002 that Jackie was vetoing Sparky's playcalling, and even calling the plays himself. Jackie left his headset off one game, probably to prove to everyone that Sparky was calling the plays and, yes, he was that bad at it. MSU fans can dream up all sorts of things. Bottom line is McCorvey is not OC material, particularly not when he didn't know the offense prior to being hired.

 

[LR1400]

The HC naturally has the final say.

Woody called the plays. One of our former receivers confirmed and Rocky confirmed he did not call the plays against UK last year.

While the offense was probably Crooms lets not dismiss the fact that most likely all of the Off staff formed the gameplan and lets not overlook how similar the offense looked compared to early 90's Bama, (besides our foray into spread formatiosn more than ever this year), just less talent and not as well executed.

 

[Flatland Dawg]

is that I always assumed Ellis Johnson left MSU because Croom wouldn't fire McCorvey. Yea, he wanted to get back home, but I felt like his primary reason was to get off the sinking ship. But that assumption's based on the idea that McCorvey was the reason it was sinking. If that was the case, I would think that Ellis Johnson and Woody Mac would have a hard time working together again.

I'm now left wondering if EJ is the the one who told Spurrier to go after McCorvey, i.e. "Woody's a good coach. This s*** was all Croom's fault."