This targeting rule is .....

[DAWGS1.sixpack]

Going to have to be revised.
If a runner, WR or QB is falling or leaning or diving downward, it’s almost impossible NOT to hit that player in the head or neck area.

 

[karlchilders.sixpack]

Clear screw Job!

 

[Maroon Eagle]

It won’t be revised because the NCAA would be criticized big time that they’re not looking out for the safety of student athletes.

Defensive players are going to have to be taught not to make the play that way.

 

[Lettucexxxx]

Clear screw Job!

Absolutely terrible. Good luck to Iowa St’s coach in the 2nd half.

 

[L4Dawg]

It won’t be revised because the NCAA would be criticized big time that they’re not looking out for the safety of student athletes.

Defensive players are going to have to be taught not to make the play that way.

He wasn't trying too. The runner was dipping as he made the play. The only way not to do what he did is to somehow pull up and not hit him, which is impossible at that point. That rule needs to go. You have to accept some risk when playiwhat is a violent game. What the current legal environment is doing to the game is insane.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

Runner dipping? I thought this was when Minshew was being tackled by another defender & him headed down to the ground?

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

Yep.
The Genie is out of the bottle.
That ship has sailed.
ka ser a ser a
Dat dog don’t hunt no mo’

 

[L4Dawg]

Runner dipping? I thought this was when Minshew was being tackled by another defender & him headed down to the ground?

That was the first one. You must have missed the second one. The first one was spearing even under the old rule.

 

[The Usual Suspect]

What is amazing is that these refs are super hyper focused on targeting and miss an illegal procedure on the touchdown, that everyone in the building saw. Yet, there is no buzzer to the officials to reverse that TD. The whole system is crap. Games are going too long on reviews alone, not to mention that the passing game is extending the time of games even more.

 

[shotgunDawg]

All we need is a yellow/red card type rule that soccer has.

I don't have near as big of an issue with the 15 yard penalty as I do the ejection.

Incidental = yellow
Intent to hurt or reckless = red
2 yellows = red

Does not carry over from one game to another.

Do that and both safety and justice are upheld.

 

[anon1787432961]

I agree with this.

Questionable judgement call = yellow

That wasn't targeting and it's an absolute horse **** job by the officials in the booth.

 

[The Usual Suspect]

All we need is a yellow/red card type rule that soccer has.

I don't have near as big of an issue with the 15 yard penalty as I do the ejection.

Incidental = yellow
Intent to hurt or reckless = red
2 yellows = red

Does not carry over from one game to another.

Do that and both safety and justice are upheld.

Could work. There is too much of a difference in an incidental contact foul, and a launching hit to the head for them to receive the same penalty.

 

[muddawgs]

Going to have to be revised.
If a runner, WR or QB is falling or leaning or diving downward, it’s almost impossible NOT to hit that player in the head or neck area.

The whole point of the rule is to not lead with your head. It doesn’t matter if they are falling or leaning forward. if you don’t lead with your head, you won’t target.

 

[tired]

The whole point of the rule is to not lead with your head. It doesn’t matter if they are falling or leaning forward. if you don’t lead with your head, you won’t target.

Maybe lead with your feet? The head is 1st to arrive

 

[DancingRabbit]

The whole point of the rule is to not lead with your head. It doesn’t matter if they are falling or leaning forward. if you don’t lead with your head, you won’t target.

Sometimes the tackler is trying to put a shoulder into the midsection of the ball carrier, and the ball carrier lowers his head. Some targeting calls are obvious, but most are not. It's a tough call for the rules committee.

 

[kired]

On the second call tonight, it didn’t matter what the tackler was leading with. Two guys were going to tackle the QB within about 1/2 second of each other. Second guy hits him in the helmet as he’s being pulled down by the first tackler. If the first guy doesn’t tackle him, the guy called for targeting probably hits him with his shoulder in the QBs gut. There’s absolutely no way he could have prevented hitting the QB - in was completely incidental. But by rule I guess it was still “targeting” which is why the rule needs to be adjusted.

 

[muddawgs]

Maybe lead with your feet? The head is 1st to arrive

Or shoulder? Just a thought.

 

[muddawgs]

On the second call tonight, it didn’t matter what the tackler was leading with. Two guys were going to tackle the QB within about 1/2 second of each other. Second guy hits him in the helmet as he’s being pulled down by the first tackler. If the first guy doesn’t tackle him, the guy called for targeting probably hits him with his shoulder in the QBs gut. There’s absolutely no way he could have prevented hitting the QB - in was completely incidental. But by rule I guess it was still “targeting” which is why the rule needs to be adjusted.

i don’t disagree at all but the defender is still diving head first. But you are right the other defender turned him directly into the targeting call which is frustrating. By rule it was the correct call. I don’t know what would be a happy medium.

 

[o_Hot Rock]

you have to keep your head up.. You cannot take your forehead and head butt a player in the head and neck area any longer no matter what caused it. If he keeps his head up and his eyes on the the player he is tackling then no targeting. This is how they had to play with leather helmets (see modern day Rugby). No one lead with their head so this idea is going back to the "Real" old school way of tackling. So, back to our roots as one might say.

When I played, the only way I tackled was leading with my head. I got knocked out several times tackling that way and it drove me out of the game. Had I been taught to tackle a different way I may have played longer.

 

[The Usual Suspect]

you have to keep your head up.. You cannot take your forehead and head butt a player in the head and neck area any longer no matter what caused it. If he keeps his head up and his eyes on the the player he is tackling then no targeting. This is how they had to play with leather helmets (see modern day Rugby). No one lead with their head so this idea is going back to the "Real" old school way of tackling. So, back to our roots as one might say.

When I played, the only way I tackled was leading with my head. I got knocked out several times tackling that way and it drove me out of the game. Had I been taught to tackle a different way I may have played longer.

Then take away the body armor type pads of today for some type of softer padded material like the good ol days. Don't forget to outlaw the forward pass, and everyone must be slow, and not weigh over 210 lbs.*

 

[The Usual Suspect]

Or shoulder? Just a thought.

Last time I looked, the head is near the shoulders. Two fast athletes reacting in less than a second, leaves the potential for missing the intended mark with the shoulder and still touching with the head first. I dare say that if we put any of us up against Kylin Hill, we would be lucky to touch him, much less pin point that we touch him with our shoulder first. There is quite a difference in leading into a defenseless receiver, vs a runner with the ball, who also leads with his head 90% of the time.