This video proves that I have ZERO basic understanding of the rules of baseball.
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I had this happen to me once in a game. Kid hit a dribbler down the line and it was on the foul grass, hit a rock (or something) and kicked over fair.
Moral of the story - never rule the ball fair or foul until it's picked up by a defender.
Moral of the story - never rule the ball fair or foul until it's picked up by a defender.
But yeah, the ball isn't foul until it passes 1st or 3rd base in foul territory or is touched by a fielder in foul territory. Technically, the fair/foul pole for home runs shouldn't really be there since it is where the ball passes 1st or 3rd base that determines if it's fair or foul. A ball that hooks could be a home run and still pass outside the fair/foul pole, but it's rarely called that way.
it is touched by a fielder in foul territory or it passes first or third base in foul territory. Or, of course, if it comes to rest.
That's why when a bunt goes down the line, and the fielder watches it to let it roll foul, he grabs it as quickly as possible once it is completely foul - because it could roll back fair.
That is a CRAZY play. </p>
That's why when a bunt goes down the line, and the fielder watches it to let it roll foul, he grabs it as quickly as possible once it is completely foul - because it could roll back fair.
That is a CRAZY play. </p>
A fly ball that is inside of the base but gets blown over to foul territory before landing is not fair. The base rule only applies to ground balls, as the case is a fair ball down the line can go into foul territory after the base and is still fair. Fly balls, not so much, its where they land or where they pass by the pole
A home run is determined fair or foul at the point in which the ball leaves the field of play. If it hits the pole or goes over the wall inside of the pole it is fair. Over the fence outside of the pole is foul.
Fly balls must land inside or on the chalk. Grounders can can roll fair or foul until touched or until it passes 1st or 3rd bags.
Fly balls must land inside or on the chalk. Grounders can can roll fair or foul until touched or until it passes 1st or 3rd bags.
Definitions from the official rules of baseball.</p>
I interpret the phrase "bounds past 1st or 3rd base on or over fair/foul territory" as meaning where the ball is when it passes 1st or 3rd base. However, a auick Google shows that apparently others interpret that to mean where the ball hits the ground or passes the fair/foul pole past 1st or 3rd base.
Crossing inside the line over the base only applies if the ball has already touched the ground. If it hasn't touched the ground, it's where the ball touches the ground (i.e. the ball can hit inside the line and roll into foul territory and still be a fair ball).
***** playing coach pitch, except they used a pitching machine and semi hard rubber baseballs. Kid hit a pop foul with a lot of spin that landed one foot from the dugout and bounced back into the infield (probably a six or seven foot bounce). Not a soul in the place knew that it was a fair ball except for me and I damn sure wasn't going to open that can of worms.
also, if a ball in foul territory touches "any object foreign to the natural ground" (like a bucket, fence, etc.) - not just a player touching the ball in foul territory.
I am amazed by how few avid baseball fans have even the most rudimentary rules knowledge - and still like to yell "c'mon blue..."
I am amazed by how few avid baseball fans have even the most rudimentary rules knowledge - and still like to yell "c'mon blue..."
It was the 14-15 year oldleague, and I was apparently the only one who knew the rule. Hit a dribbler down the 1st base line, and as it rolled foul it hit the lip of the grass in foul territory and that pushed it back in. I was running full speed at contact, knew no one was going after it,so Ijust rounded 1st and got to second standing up without a throw. It might be the shortest legitimate double in the history of Little League because by the time it got back in fair territory, it was only halfway between home and first.
I admit thinking I know or have saw most ever thing that can happen in baseball for the most part, but Id never saw this, nor havent since. This was 15-16 years ago so I dont even remember the umps call, but I think foul ball. Playing on a field where the dirt directly in front of the rubber had been worn down, so that about twice the rubber was exposed as normal. Batter hits a line drive, right back at pitcher, who got out of the way, hit the rubber at some freakish angle, not touching dirt, and bounced back over the plate, and over the backstop. The ball never touched the actual ground after leaving the pitchers hand until it was behind the backstop. Foul ball or ground rule double? I think they called it foul, I assuming on the grounds that it went in foul territory without touching a base nor bouncing over. I guess its the same as a third baseman letting a bunt go foul, but thats a tough call for a hitter, who just scorched a pitch right up the middle.
ball off the mound that goes foul without passing 1st or 3rd, isa foul ball.
you sometimes see this on pop-ups to the mound, that go uncaught and untouched, androll straight off the mound to one of the dugouts: foul ball.
basically it's the same as a bunt that rolls foul, same principle.
you sometimes see this on pop-ups to the mound, that go uncaught and untouched, androll straight off the mound to one of the dugouts: foul ball.
basically it's the same as a bunt that rolls foul, same principle.
I know people don't know all the rules in the sports they watch, or even play, but that there is this much confusion over what is fair or foul concerns me.
Happened to our 14yo team this summer. Batter hits a ball that hits the ground in fair territory just inside 3b line about 20 ft from the plate. Our third baseman catches the ball in the air in front of 3b but about a foot in foul territory. (think one hopper that hits the ground in fair territory, but is caught in the air in foul territory) Foul or fair? <div>
</div><div>Ump called it fair, I said foul. But I have been wrong before.</div>
</div><div>Ump called it fair, I said foul. But I have been wrong before.</div>
Was the 3rd baseman completely in Foul tty when he caught it? or was one foot fair, snagged it, momentum took him foul.
If part of the fielder is in fair tty while the ball is in the air then most umpires will call fair ball.
DD
If part of the fielder is in fair tty while the ball is in the air then most umpires will call fair ball.
DD
It's the position of the ball when touched. The position of the player is irrelevant.
The player can be laying on the ground with his nose in the chalk, one foot fair, one foot foul. If he touches the ball while the BALL is in foul territory, then foul. If he touches the ball while the ball is in fair territory, then fair.
The player can be laying on the ground with his nose in the chalk, one foot fair, one foot foul. If he touches the ball while the BALL is in foul territory, then foul. If he touches the ball while the ball is in fair territory, then fair.
Dozier has had a few highlight reel plays in the field also since the twins called him up earlier this season. USM fans knew he had serious talent, but most of us didn't see him getting to the bigs and sticking in just two years. A proud son of Fulton, MS.