Thomasville football job
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Definitely agree that, from the state level, charters and privates get a better deal. Davidson County commissioners continue to keep per pupil funding for all schools, city and county, among the lowest in the state.
But it’s a common misconception that schools in the Davidson County system get more funding than the city schools. It’s actually the opposite. The supplemental school tax that property owners in the school district pay puts an extra two million dollars per year into Thomasville City Schools. Lexington schools get a similar amount. That’s money that the East Davidsons and Ledfords don‘t get.
Those funds have increased almost every year for decades (the COVID year being the only exception). In spite of the fact that the system has lost twenty percent of its students in the last ten years.
The important question is what the system does with the money. All those extra central office positions eat up much of it.
In ten years, student population dropped from about 2500 students to a little over 2,000. Yet central office staff increased from 29 to 41, several of those last year. Do the math.
But it’s a common misconception that schools in the Davidson County system get more funding than the city schools. It’s actually the opposite. The supplemental school tax that property owners in the school district pay puts an extra two million dollars per year into Thomasville City Schools. Lexington schools get a similar amount. That’s money that the East Davidsons and Ledfords don‘t get.
Those funds have increased almost every year for decades (the COVID year being the only exception). In spite of the fact that the system has lost twenty percent of its students in the last ten years.
The important question is what the system does with the money. All those extra central office positions eat up much of it.
In ten years, student population dropped from about 2500 students to a little over 2,000. Yet central office staff increased from 29 to 41, several of those last year. Do the math.
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or maybe you should ask them! you bring up past eleven coaches but keep blaming the current school board? stop and ask yourself how that even makes sense? I have asked current head coaches, some of which are listed in this here same thread and I can tell you they aren't interested nd it's not because of the school board! One of which im sure is even less interested now! I've also spoken to other pretty darn good coaches here who want nothing to do with it. So i ask again who is in so attracted to? The feeder program has gone to complete crap from little league to middle school. The talent is far from the same as it was back in the day, that accessment has been made from watching the thomasville kids play at every level from flag to high school. I see someone keeps saying we have this all star coach coming in, im going to be respectful and keep my opinion on this hire to myself until the announcement is made but i will say this. To fire george and state we are moving in a new direction and in turn hire someone who's record is worst than georges and to see yall be happy about that speaks volumes to where some of yalls hearts really is with this.
no one stole his players from his previous job. he just regressed. and yes, i follow that school very closely as well as i live in that district and my children are coming through
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and robertson still found it in his heart to take a significant pay cut to leave, right? and the current school board wasnt there yet! If it's so attractive, why couldnt even the being the highest paid coach in thomasville history and highest in the state keep him there? sounds to me like the problem is alot deeper huh? cause it is
I don’t pretend to know all the reasons Coach Robertson left, but know some of them. Nor do I know his pay at Page. He may have used his Thomasville situation to leverage more money there. Coaches often do. I don‘t believe the administration at the time was a factor.
If you look at Doug’s history, he’s a program builder. But appears to get bored with it and start looking for the next challenge. Eastern Guilford, Thomasville, Page, Rockingham County. See a pattern?
Coaches leave for many reasons. But it‘s certainly rare to see eleven coaches leave in one year.
I agree that there are problems beyond the school board and administration. I wish I thought things would get better before they get worse. Hopefully so on the football field.
I'll say it, cause i dont care. I feel like those coaches you speak of leaving in the same year were part of the problem! Can blame the board all you want but some of the things you accused the board of for being the reason that drove them away are completely normal! Being certified to drive a bus is NORMAL! They weren't going to be out driving students home after school and before practice, they were just being required to be certified. It's easy to keep using them as an excuse but trust me it's a lot deeper than that and a lot of it is personal opinion/preference and they have the right to have those preferences/opinion as do you so I will leave it at that. But continuing to try to make it out that that's the problem here is absurd. This problem has been going on for years and just got worse. This hire IMO will also make it worse. Especially knowing who was passed over for the position(one of which was mentioned in this thread). We thought the community didnt support before? Oh, get ready! We could end up being High Point Central South
Get someone that will run the I on offense and a 4-3 on defense, fire up the grill for them Cushwa Dogs, and party like it's 1995.
From the coaches I talked to, the bus thing was a little more complex than that, but it was a factor. Not the major one.
I hope you’re wrong about whoever the new coach is, but time will tell. Just glad someone with football knowledge was involved in the process this time. We do need stability, whoever it is.
Could be. Especially if he had a great first year then second year another school stole his best players including a very high profile QB. If you are fortunate to get this kinda guy and keep your players y’all will be just fine.
That statement about the stolen players is in-correct. The fact to that matter is those players left because they couldn't transfer due to the deadline. So technically he inherited those players and they all transferred the following year.
No reflection on Coach ability. There should be a way to eliminate all these transfers.
Just watched State Lines, a program about issues facing the North Carolina legislature. Four panelists…two journalists and one legislator from each party. The Republican representative confirmed that they are pushing for statewide open enrollment without any school district restrictions. My prediction is that will happen in the next two years. It wasn’t about athletics, but will have a significant impact on it.
Yeah, that sort of thing been going on for decades. Thomasville shooting itself in the foot and it finally caught up. That said, many of the good donors, teachers that were in the school system aged out, retired moved to other towns, out of state etc. Then of course Thomasville furniture and many local business are gone. There are a few new ones but none will hold a candle to the Thomasville furniture impact on the community. Less families with income, the few families with a higher income are gonna live in the county, send their kids to the bigger county schools especially if its new, or private ones. Regardless, the new coach will have a uphill battle to win in T-Vegas.
Far as East and Ledford go, nobody cared about attending them anyway.
Our job was posted this past week. So maybe it is. My son plays on the team and they haven’t heard anything yet. We really enjoyed having GM over at Southern.
With 100% absolute certainty, I can say that this statement is correct. There were certainly extremely successful, and not as successful, coaches that left and the bus thing was part of it, but not the entire reason. Again, with complete certainty, I can say that more than one of the coaches had it communicated to them, by the new school board, that they were on the chopping block for reasons that had nothing to do with sports. Two of those coaches were among the most successful in their respective sports in recent memory. That communication came direct from the school board…or rather from an individual on the board that was newly elected. It would be a stretch to say it was the whole board though.
Agreed. Not the whole school board. But at least two of the most vocal, who managed to bend the board to their will.
It was my understanding that it was a single individual who actually entered the school and spoke to these coaches directly about how they did not properly represent what the future of the school was going to be nor could they provide what the students needed, for reasons that I’m not putting here. Several coaches received that somewhat implied but clear communication and chose to leave when they did not want to.
That is true. But it was not only his opinion. Not shared by all five, but some are more vocal and aggressive than others.
That same sentiment was expressed to the superintendent . What they didn’t count on was having to pay him for a year after he left.
Indeed. It’s frustrating, even from a distance, watching coaches and admins that meant well and had the kids’ good in mind, AND were good at their jobs be questioned and in some ways run down. That being said, thomasville’s loss was, to some extremely nearby schools, a gain. Those coaches seem to be doing well for the most part.