since when? I can't remember anyone we've ever gotten from there. I remember Antonio White, a guy who didn't qualify from there, but that's about it.
Thompson to Ole Miss official now...
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I don't think that would have mattered last year, just like it wouldn't have mattered if the game had been in Starkville the year before.umrebel2009 said:
rebel law said:
Schedule easier teams.
You're also vastly underrating Dan. How do you think Nutt would do with a midget and a dude hitting port-a-potties at QB, a young o-line that has no All-SEC players on it, essentially one really, really good RB and a bunch of receivers who were decent, but had no one to get them the ball, and Carl Torbush's 11th ranked defense, and a starting kicker who blew his knee out with one of the toughest schedules in the SEC? I bet a lot farther than one inch from bowl eligibility- which is what we were because of the LSU game.
Also, believe me, if Dan feels like our recruiting coordinator is holding us back, he will make a change. Ask Carl Torbush.
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Monday night straight out of rumor central.........
Supposedly, Mullen was visiting with the family, and brought up the KKK being on UM's campus and was really busting the Rebel's chops about it, whenThompson's dad spoke up and said it wasn't like that at all & was genuinely upset at Mullenabout portraying UM in a negative way....
If this has been brought up already, Sieg Hiel !
Supposedly, Mullen was visiting with the family, and brought up the KKK being on UM's campus and was really busting the Rebel's chops about it, whenThompson's dad spoke up and said it wasn't like that at all & was genuinely upset at Mullenabout portraying UM in a negative way....
If this has been brought up already, Sieg Hiel !
TilloDawg said:
than by going all character and morality on someone. Especially when other people do that crap to us.
I think he was somewhat addressing how Mullen, as well as this board, talked a month or so ago, especially after the Egg Bowl, about how MSU was whipping Ole Miss' *** in-state.
Meanwhile, OM will definitely sign 4 of the top 10, and possibly 5 (Coleman) of the top 10 in MS, while MSU signs 2, possibly 3 (Robinson) of the top 10.
OM will sign 4 of the top 6 rated JUCO players in MS.
I think, based on offers and ratings, that the out of state players that Ole Miss have added are at, worst, comparable to the other in-state players MSU has outside of the top 10.
Meanwhile, OM will definitely sign 4 of the top 10, and possibly 5 (Coleman) of the top 10 in MS, while MSU signs 2, possibly 3 (Robinson) of the top 10.
OM will sign 4 of the top 6 rated JUCO players in MS.
I think, based on offers and ratings, that the out of state players that Ole Miss have added are at, worst, comparable to the other in-state players MSU has outside of the top 10.
Actually quite the opposite. After years of "We're doing this the right way" and recruiting against Troy and the now infamous 2004 "recruiting class", losing out on recruits to people and actually doing whatever it takes to get them to MSU is a welcome sight.
Just like any sign that we've actually joined the modern college football world this past season was a welcome sight.
Just like any sign that we've actually joined the modern college football world this past season was a welcome sight.
What list are you looking at? Yancy's? We got Eulls, Carr, and Wells. You got Thompson, Bennet, and Martin. Robinson and Sanders are still out there. Say we split those. Then we still have 9 out of the next 15. Thats 13 out of the top 25. You have 4, and who would we trade for? Whos better on your commit list than those 13. So, yeah, we are dominating the state. You can't just pick and choose which group of recruits represents the state. Its the whole state. If you didn't want them, then okay, we did. You guys would take Eulls, Carr, Wells, Johnson, and Giles if they came calling. We lose one battle, and all of the sudden all those players we beat you out for didn't happen. We're still winning. Drink that in *****.
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C-L top 10:
Coleman- Auburn
Thompson- one for Ole Miss
Robinson- Probably MSU
Wells- one for MSU
Sanders- probably one for Ole Miss
Eulls- TWO for MSU (uh oh)
Dickson- LSU
Carr- THREE for MSU
Bennett- Two for Ole Miss, likely three with Sanders.
McNair, Jr.- Seriously CL? USM.
So, by my count, that's three for sure, probably four for MSU, and four at the absolute best for Ole Miss- with Coleman, who personally I don't think will go to Ole Miss. So the only way Ole Miss gets more guys is for Coleman to commit and for Robinson to not commit to State. More than likely it will be 4-3 State.
If I used Yancy's list (which I didn't), it would've included Bennett (top 10 on Scout.com doesn't).
I think this has been discussed here, but anything outside of the top 10-12 in MS is a crapshoot, and there are some years that 5-10 in MS is a crapshoot. I'm not going to get into a flaming contest about whether you think this is legitimate or not....Dandy Dozen and Top Ten Most Wanted history proves it to be correct....as well as the rankings from Scout.com
Your "9 out of 13" list includes Favre (no offer), Jay Hughes (no offer), Jamerson Love (no offer), Virges (no offer), Jameon Lewis (no offer, but a guy I personally like...he's a playmaker), Brandon Hill (no offer), and Mike Carr (would've been offered if he didn't "shut his recruitment down," or so I'm told by this board....I think he's a good player and probably should be top 10).
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Pos Nat'l
Rank Nat'l
Rating Name
School, Hometown Video HT/ WT/ 40 Schools of Interest
DE JC Wayne Dorsey
(Mississippi Gulf Coast)
Perkinston, MS 6-8/255 Committed to Mississippi
OT 7 Shon Coleman
(Olive Branch HS)
Olive Branch, MS 6-7/285 Auburn, Arkansas, Miami (Fl), Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama
OT 9 Damien Robinson
(Olive Branch HS)
Olive Branch, MS 6-8/330 Arkansas, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Tennessee
RB 17 Matthew Wells
(Lawrence County HS)
Monticello, MS 6-1/205/4.50 Committed to Mississippi State
DE 17 Carlos Thompson
(Simmons HS)
Hollandale, MS 6-5/220/4.60 Committed to Mississippi
WR 20 Vincent Sanders
(Noxubee County HS)
Macon, MS 6-3/180/4.60 Florida State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Alabama, North Carolina, Southern Miss, West Virginia
DE 21 Kaleb Eulls
(Yazoo County HS)
Yazoo City, MS 6-4/250/4.70 Committed to Mississippi State
DT 22 Carlton Martin
(Madison Central HS)
Madison, MS 6-1/270/5.00 Committed to Mississippi
DE 37 Travis Dickson
(Ocean Springs HS)
Ocean Springs, MS 6-3/228/4.70 Committed to LSU
RB JC Debrale Smiley
(Itawamba)
Fulton, MS 6-0/240 Committed to Florida State
QB JC Randall Mackey
(East Mississippi)
Scooba, MS 6-0/195 Committed to Mississippi
OLB JC Devonta Bolton
(East Mississippi)
Scooba, MS 6-4/230/4.50 Alabama
CB JC Dequan Menzie
(Copiah-Lincoln)
Wesson, MS 6-0/180 Alabama, Mississippi, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Oklahoma State, Tennessee
WR JC Brett Moncrief
(Mississippi Gulf Coast)
Perkinston, MS 6-3/205 Committed to Troy
DE JC Claude Davis
(East Mississippi)
Scooba, MS 6-4.5/247 Committed to South Florida
S JC Damien Jackson
(Mississippi Gulf Coast)
Perkinston, MS 6-3/205 Committed to Mississippi
DT JC John Brown
(Northeast Mississippi)
Booneville, MS 6-1/300 Committed to Tennessee
RB 32 Nick Parker
(South Panola HS)
Batesville, MS 6-1/210/4.50 Committed to Mississippi
MLB 34 Taurice King
(Yazoo City HS)
Yazoo City, MS 6-1/226/4.62 Mississippi State, Alabama, Alcorn State, Jackson State, Louisiana Tech, Mississippi, Southern Miss
I think this has been discussed here, but anything outside of the top 10-12 in MS is a crapshoot, and there are some years that 5-10 in MS is a crapshoot. I'm not going to get into a flaming contest about whether you think this is legitimate or not....Dandy Dozen and Top Ten Most Wanted history proves it to be correct....as well as the rankings from Scout.com
Your "9 out of 13" list includes Favre (no offer), Jay Hughes (no offer), Jamerson Love (no offer), Virges (no offer), Jameon Lewis (no offer, but a guy I personally like...he's a playmaker), Brandon Hill (no offer), and Mike Carr (would've been offered if he didn't "shut his recruitment down," or so I'm told by this board....I think he's a good player and probably should be top 10).
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Pos Nat'l
Rank Nat'l
Rating Name
School, Hometown Video HT/ WT/ 40 Schools of Interest
DE JC Wayne Dorsey
(Mississippi Gulf Coast)
Perkinston, MS 6-8/255 Committed to Mississippi
OT 7 Shon Coleman
(Olive Branch HS)
Olive Branch, MS 6-7/285 Auburn, Arkansas, Miami (Fl), Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama
OT 9 Damien Robinson
(Olive Branch HS)
Olive Branch, MS 6-8/330 Arkansas, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Tennessee
RB 17 Matthew Wells
(Lawrence County HS)
Monticello, MS 6-1/205/4.50 Committed to Mississippi State
DE 17 Carlos Thompson
(Simmons HS)
Hollandale, MS 6-5/220/4.60 Committed to Mississippi
WR 20 Vincent Sanders
(Noxubee County HS)
Macon, MS 6-3/180/4.60 Florida State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Alabama, North Carolina, Southern Miss, West Virginia
DE 21 Kaleb Eulls
(Yazoo County HS)
Yazoo City, MS 6-4/250/4.70 Committed to Mississippi State
DT 22 Carlton Martin
(Madison Central HS)
Madison, MS 6-1/270/5.00 Committed to Mississippi
DE 37 Travis Dickson
(Ocean Springs HS)
Ocean Springs, MS 6-3/228/4.70 Committed to LSU
RB JC Debrale Smiley
(Itawamba)
Fulton, MS 6-0/240 Committed to Florida State
QB JC Randall Mackey
(East Mississippi)
Scooba, MS 6-0/195 Committed to Mississippi
OLB JC Devonta Bolton
(East Mississippi)
Scooba, MS 6-4/230/4.50 Alabama
CB JC Dequan Menzie
(Copiah-Lincoln)
Wesson, MS 6-0/180 Alabama, Mississippi, Auburn, Clemson, Georgia, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Oklahoma State, Tennessee
WR JC Brett Moncrief
(Mississippi Gulf Coast)
Perkinston, MS 6-3/205 Committed to Troy
DE JC Claude Davis
(East Mississippi)
Scooba, MS 6-4.5/247 Committed to South Florida
S JC Damien Jackson
(Mississippi Gulf Coast)
Perkinston, MS 6-3/205 Committed to Mississippi
DT JC John Brown
(Northeast Mississippi)
Booneville, MS 6-1/300 Committed to Tennessee
RB 32 Nick Parker
(South Panola HS)
Batesville, MS 6-1/210/4.50 Committed to Mississippi
MLB 34 Taurice King
(Yazoo City HS)
Yazoo City, MS 6-1/226/4.62 Mississippi State, Alabama, Alcorn State, Jackson State, Louisiana Tech, Mississippi, Southern Miss
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Seriously though, how many of those outside your Top 10 list were on our list? You beat us on Eulls, Wells, and Johnson. We never had a shot at Carr, though I'll give you that one. If you land Robinson, that's another we wanted. Giles, we'll see. Yancy still thinks we sign and place him. Outside of those, I don't think we were really after any of the other 7 or 8 you will sign in state.
At the end of the day, on the prospects we both wanted, we're going to be right about at a split in-state. That's the way it'll be most years. Some years the balance will favor one over the other, but it's just year to year.
Todd4State said:
Go count the ones we'd both want. That's the only way to measure it. The CL doesn't know ****. Neither do Scout and Rivals. If Mullen and Nutt both wanted a player in-state, how'd they do? I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure it's a close split one way or another, and at the end of the day, that's what you should expect.
as to the talent and who is most wanted in MS.
Like I already said, I used the Scout.com rankings, which is a mix of Steve and Yancy's rankings.
You could use Rivals rankings, but I don't buy them either due to having Johnson over Bennett, Wells, and Nick Parker and Nick Griffen. I think those 4, at worst two of the four, are superior players.
You are certainly free to disagree, and you may be right....guess we'll know in 2 or 3 years on most of these guys.
Like I already said, I used the Scout.com rankings, which is a mix of Steve and Yancy's rankings.
You could use Rivals rankings, but I don't buy them either due to having Johnson over Bennett, Wells, and Nick Parker and Nick Griffen. I think those 4, at worst two of the four, are superior players.
You are certainly free to disagree, and you may be right....guess we'll know in 2 or 3 years on most of these guys.
The who can sign the most MS recruits competition? You can have it. Mullen made that a priority for him and he is following through on that. Good for him. Outside of Eulls, Carr, Wells, and Johnson I don't think any of your other MS kids are very good and their offer list reflects that. By signing day our class will be in the 20-25 range while yours will be in the 40-50 range. Instate players or out of state players, does it really matter? Again I think Mullen is a good coach but he is leaving a lot to be desired on the recruiting front. If he doesn't significantly increase the talent, which he isn't doing right now, I don't see how he will be capable of winning more than 5 or 6 games. Is he noticeably a better coach than Petrino, Saban, Nutt, Miles, and Chzick? I think he may be on par or better than a few of them but does it really matter if he is signing inferior players than they are signing? Its more about the Jimmy and Joes than the X's and O's. Its not about Thompson. Its about signing the worse class in the west and yet still expecting him to be able to beat coaches who are at the least his equal coaching wise but have better players.
By the way, I called this about a week ago. Thompson was going to be the Egg Bowl of recruiting, and the result of his decision either way was going to create the Egg Bowl type smack. It's back again.
And yes, Bennet was in the final top 10 scout rankings. He was 9. My point was we are dominating the STATE of MS. Not the top 10. If you guys had more commits from the top 25-30 then I'm sure we would be discussing a larger portion of the recruits on that list. You've got 4 HS commits from MS, we have 13. Yeah, it may be a crapshoot outside of the top 10. But all of recruiting is a crapshoot. There aren't any can't miss prospects. Alot of these guys aren't rated as high because of exposure or politics w/in the rating systems. Whatever the case, we are winning the state over the last few years, and this year is no exception. The thing is, if we can get the lower rated guys that are just as good as your lower rated guys, and we are getting them in state then its a win for us because recruits are gonna notice that we are playing with MS boys and OM will take an out of state guy over an instate guy with arguably the same amount of talent.
One must conclude that Nutt is a better coach than not only Mullen but Mullen and Meyer combined because he beat the Gators in Gainesville.
But I guess the excuse Nutt won in Gainesville is because the Gators were playing with Meyer's recruits and not Mullens?
But I guess the excuse Nutt won in Gainesville is because the Gators were playing with Meyer's recruits and not Mullens?
It's a win for you? In the 8 completed years scout has kept up, Mississippians hav made up the majority of your classes 6 of those years - 2002 (16), 2003 (20), 2004 (11), 2005 (12), 2006 (9), 2007 (20), 2008 (14), 2009 (21). Where the <17> has it gotten you? One Liberty Bowl?jcbully said:
that Nutt would be very happy to take most of the Mississippians that we have committed. Like Robert Johnson or Cordell Giles for example.
Ole Miss is 27th overall with the potential to be in the top 15 overall. State is at 39 overall with the potential to be in the top 35 judging by your recruiting board (or am i missing something?). Ole Miss avg star rating is 16th overall, state's is 41. Now you tell me who is doing a better job recruiting despite being limited on scholarships?
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Let me help you out here. The only thing that matters is that your recruits are better than Auburn, Alabama, Arkansas, LSU, and Ole Miss. I don't give a flying %++$ what state they are from. I am pretty sure outside of Eulls, Wells, Carr, and Johnson that most of those players that yall are signing from Ms arent worth a +*+*!+# ****. This dominating in state recruiting argument is the most retarded argument yet.jcbully said:
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