Agreed. Tons of options there. I built mine from high end parts. I think the best value buy is the S&W Sport. It’s really quality for the price.....then you can spend time modifying it as desired.
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Agreed. Tons of options there. I built mine from high end parts. I think the best value buy is the S&W Sport. It’s really quality for the price.....then you can spend time modifying it as desired.
9mm, shotgun, .380, ,45 they re all gonna work fine honestly.
That's a lot of Glock estrogen in your posts there Morg [winking] well done. The extended mags, all of them, great selling points, like a collection of sex toys at the ready.
The FNS-9 does everything a Glock 19 does, equally or better. Even has an external safety. A bad *** handgun than can still be found for under 400$ . . . after tax. Comes with 3 very well manufacturered magazines. If it came from a company that depended exclusively on near cookie-cutter handguns for sustained revenue and profits, the FNS-9 (and the -40) base models would market for 500 dollars with plastic sights just like the Glock 19 does. Well, maybe not the plastic sights. Who the heck does that, anyway? Oh, wait . . . . Glock does. Instead, the FNS comes from the single-most greatest producer of weapons the world has known since it began seriously arming itself in the early 20th century: Fabrique Nationale. A company that has forgotten more about a complete line of weapons production, large-scale military contracts, etc., than Glock will ever know.
And it doesn't have that annoying, nuisance issue, magwell cut-out against the pinky / ring finger. Glock should regret that. Hopefully that goes away if / when Gen 6 product line is revealed.
Baltimore Co FN triggers....were falling off, and that was just the second major issue with them.
https://foxbaltimore.com/features/o...r-new-guns-but-no-investigation-comes-with-it
Yikes.
https://foxbaltimore.com/features/o...r-new-guns-but-no-investigation-comes-with-it
Yikes.
Cousin has several guns stashed around his house, but don't blame him living out in the boonies.
But his favorite carry is an old Makarov.
But his favorite carry is an old Makarov.
Attached responses by FN are emphatic, powerful. "Officer induced". Independent investigation / testing agreed.
Sorta makes the fact they come with 3 mags even sweeter. $145 worth of magazines when you buy the $350 package.
Shotgun - Mossberg 590A1
Handguns - I prefer single action so I don’t go Glock. I have a Colt 1911 45 ACP Commander and a Sig Sauer P938 9 millimeter. They don’t carry tons of rounds but I strongly prefer the short trigger pull
Handguns - I prefer single action so I don’t go Glock. I have a Colt 1911 45 ACP Commander and a Sig Sauer P938 9 millimeter. They don’t carry tons of rounds but I strongly prefer the short trigger pull
Well he can certainly beat someone to death with that heavy piece of metal.
Commie.
Dude...
https://www.azmirror.com/2019/04/22...uietly-replacing-guns-issued-to-all-troopers/
The gun fires in or out of battery when slapped on the slide or bottom of mag.
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And Sig P 320s were shooting state troopers when dropped. Everyone tries to think they are too cool or special to just buy a f***ing Glock and learn how to shoot it well and this **** keeps happening. It is sort of amazing in its stupidity, to be honest.
“If the lower half of the trigger falls off that is considered a catastrophic failure. This is a serious life and death issue to both the members of BCOPD and the citizens of Baltimore County,” Police Chief Terrence Sheridan.
I AGREE!
S&W has been making Glock clones since the 90’s, and they’re pretty good. Get M&P if you want to spend $350 on a gun, or want a safety, steel mags, etc.
Interesting. The out of battery issue is curious. Also very curious is why would an experienced user ever sling a bag of loaded handguns over his shoulder? This was a cop so he is a victim. If a ordinary person does something like that he is an idiot.
Whether you are buying a car, gun, etc......it's probably not the best idea to buy anything "new". Meaning, a new design. Sig's new 320 that has the military contract. It has some issues, but they'll work it out and it'll end up being a fine firearm. When Glock came out way back when, they had issues to. But for the last 30 yrs, they've corrected their bumps/bruises and put out solid reliable weapons. But even Glock's have some issues when they come out with new designs. They know this which is why every time Glock issues a "next generation" gun.......it's really not new. In general they don't change the inner-workings of the gun much......they mostly just play with superficial stuff......finish, finger grooves vs no grooves, mag cut out, etc.
That would be an FCA product. History will tell you that it’s not the most reliable brand.
.....better than anything British though......
And the two videos in that piece the 2nd one is very interesting. Yes, we should agree on a concern. Shows how if the weapon (muzzle) is pressed firmly against a surface, trigger then pulled, gun will not fire (out of battery, slide pushed back slightly). But then if gun is moved away from surface discharge may occur upon return to battery.
This is a concern for those many, necessary times it is for law enforcement to place a gun at heads / backs and pull the trigger. Why would they do that? The assumption is they would want to blow a head apart at point blank range. But then if by miracle (grace of God) that did not happen, they don't want to be forced into a position of having to explain why they had that weapon there in the first place.
I will agree, it is interesting. I also find it very interesting that Baltimore stated the accidental discharges where no fault of the FNS designs, and eventually went after the little roll pins as there reason for going to Glocks.
Baltimore is stupid as crap, and yes, they did have AD caused by foreign objects that got caught inside the holster. The picture they showed was a holster that didn't appear to cover the entire trigger guard. That's not FN's fault.
But when your gun goes off when smacked with your palm, or when the trigger falls out..
Was your gun recalled? I think the most interesting part would be how FN handled this.
googled ----> they sent out a service bulletin, but they didn't mention all the problems Baltimore and AZ found with them.
https://fnamerica.com/customer-support/fns-service-bulletin/
But when your gun goes off when smacked with your palm, or when the trigger falls out..
Was your gun recalled? I think the most interesting part would be how FN handled this.
googled ----> they sent out a service bulletin, but they didn't mention all the problems Baltimore and AZ found with them.
https://fnamerica.com/customer-support/fns-service-bulletin/
I think you misunderstand people easily. And if you want an exclusively adult conversation then you should probably omit childish references such as Santa. Fact is, I don't think law enforcement has intention to operate the weapons that way at all. Yet there appears to be a process that allows for manipulation of the weapons in all ways imaginable, outside of the prescribed, authorized manual of arms, in an attempt to discover flaws, but only downstream of poor weapons handling / practices; i.e. "officer induced accidental discharges" and instance of a single officer reporting doing something that cannot be considered the least bit responsible (your "adult" santa characterization).
Where are these discoveries preceded by no improper handling of the weapons?
Thank you for this information. I have a model that may be affected. Not sure at the moment. Much appreciated. Might be a couple of days. I'll let you know either way. Guessing, time line involved, pretty good possibility mine is affected.
When you recommend a gun that's equal or better than Glock, then find out it's been recalled for multiple catastrophic failures...
Just messing with you Kopi, but glad you found out your gun might break before you needed it to protect your life.
Just messing with you Kopi, but glad you found out your gun might break before you needed it to protect your life.
Just playing Devil's Advocate to continue a discussion.
I guess the thought is to hopefully over plan for as many contingencies as possible.......because you can't plan for them all?
But in any case, what if the officer is tackled by a criminal where his life is clearly threatened. I could imagine a case where point blank defense could be a possibility.
Well, yeah . . . but in that case all designs require weapon NOT be pushed too firmly against the assailant, less it will not fire. Otherwise, the officer would be required to reposition himself (perhaps with great effort). And from there we should agree he must be able to get his finger off the depressed trigger. No gaurantee he can do that. Otherwise, he may be wishing he had that "faulty" FNS . . . something that may save his life as soon as the slide moves a couple mm forward.
Have you ever trained how to use a pistol when someone is physically assaulting you? It is terrifying. Often the only way to fire a pistol is with the muzzle against someone's leg, chest, etc because he is trying to take it away from you and kill you with it.
WTF are you talking about?
WTF are you talking about?
Please relax and try to remember it was you who admonished adolescent reactions. Discussion was about the function of the pistol, sir. The Arizona law enforcement video of slide being moved out of battery was applied to the narrative. Perhaps you haven't kept up with the details. It hasn't become that complicated. Well, acumen depending. Thank you for sharing your simulated trauma.
Navy Seals have switched to Glock 19. The SAS switched to Glock 17. Both used Sig Sauer, P226 for Seals and P228 for SAS, until recently. Hard to argue with those fellows.
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It is hard to argue with them. But the delta detachment uses and maintains nearly a dozen different handguns in it's massive arsenal so I really have a hard time believing either of the two special ops units you mentioned limits operators to a single option / handgun qualification.
They don't. Their main sidearm. I doubt they have one weapon.[roll] Sorry didn't mean to imply that. As you can see below, that ain't no Glock.
https://www.sofmag.com/sas-badass-stormed-hotel-alone-as-terrorists-attacked-in-kenya/
I was referring only to sidearms also. Interesting photo. Hard to tell exactly what he's packing. FAL platform maybe?
sas went with the Glock to replace inventory of Browning hi powers, which had been their primary sidearm. Not their only sidearm.
sas went with the Glock to replace inventory of Browning hi powers, which had been their primary sidearm. Not their only sidearm.
You're all correct. While the SAS and SEALs may list the Glock officially as their main sidearm, they aren't limited to it. Each operator has the ability to choose their own......within reason. I know 3 recently retired SEALs.....one used 1911 at first then switched to a Sig........one used a Glock then Sig......the last one bounced around from Sig, to Glock, to HK, then back to Sig.
