Thought I'd make a list......

[War Machine Dawg]

Things I've learned from MSU "baseball" fans:

1) We should never lose a game.
2) We should have 25 potential All-Americans & top 10 Round Draft picks on the roster. Anything less means we have no talent or depth.
3) Playing your best baseball at the end of a season is irrelevant.
4) Scoring less than 8 (or whatever magic number they've come up with) runs a game means we can't hit.
5) Injuries to 4 position starters and 1 weekend rotation starter shouldn't affect our offense or record.
6) "Getting hot" at the end of a season isn't the mark of a good team or a good coach. There's no such thing as "peaking" at the right time.
7) Injuries to your 4 most experienced position players is an excuse.
8) Injuries to 20% of your entire roster is an excuse.
9) 16-year-old recruits born in the mid-90's should be expected to know all about our tradition and great players from the 80s & 90s and be beating down the doors to play here.
10) Being ranked in the Top 25 and losing to a Top 15 team by 1 run twice, while starting a guy we had to recall from Spring Break, means we suck.

I'll stop there. Feel free to add to the list. I fully expect replies from Pat, Dubs, HDD, rugb, and BriantheDawg.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

Things I've learned from MSU "baseball" fans:

1) We should never lose a game.
2) We should have 25 potential All-Americans & top 10 Round Draft picks on the roster. Anything less means we have no talent or depth.
3) Playing your best baseball at the end of a season is irrelevant.
4) Scoring less than 8 (or whatever magic number they've come up with) runs a game means we can't hit.
5) Injuries to 4 position starters and 1 weekend rotation starter shouldn't affect our offense or record.
6) "Getting hot" at the end of a season isn't the mark of a good team or a good coach. There's no such thing as "peaking" at the right time.
7) Injuries to your 4 most experienced position players is an excuse.
8) Injuries to 20% of your entire roster is an excuse.
9) 16-year-old recruits born in the mid-90's should be expected to know all about our tradition and great players from the 80s & 90s and be beating down the doors to play here.
10) Being ranked in the Top 25 and losing to a Top 15 team by 1 run twice, while starting a guy we had to recall from Spring Break, means we suck.

I'll stop there. Feel free to add to the list. I fully expect replies from Pat, Dubs, HDD, rugb, and BriantheDawg.

 

[NTDawg]

Yes we played two good games with LSU but we wereswept by SE LA and we will see how long we stay in the top 25. I expect more in year 4 by Cohen.</p>

 

[rugbdawg]

against terrible competition when these guys were healthy. Brent Brownlee? Really? He isn't good anyway. Bradford and Norris hurt but we weren't scoring well with them anyway.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

11) The fact that we finished the season ranked #15 last year is an irrelevant fluke for which Cohen deserves no credit.<div>12) It's also irrelevant that our final RPI was 16 last year. We only got to the Super Regionals and a top 15 ranking by luck.</div><div>13) Losing two one-run road games against one of the best SEC teams to start the season 0-2 means that we won't make the NCAA Tournament.</div><div>14) If we do make the NCAA Tournament as a 3 seed, it's not a sign of good coaching with the graduations last year and injuries this year -- it means Cohen should and will be fired.</div>

 

[DowntownDawg]

...Before the injuries this year with what we lost and our inexperience. You guys are acting like just because it's year 4 we should automatically be a top 10 team no matter how the roster fell out.

We're extremely young and extremely hurt. We were 7 outs from the CWS last year. You guys act like we were entitled to that. Unbelievable.

 

[War Machine Dawg]

Knew you couldn't resist an opportunity to bash Cohen and make yourself look like an idiot.

Can't believe I left NTDawg out of the Cohen Haters Club. Now, where are pat, HDD, and BriantheDawg? They seem to have disappeared?

 

[rugbdawg]

Before I slob all over his knob, like everyone else is doing, I'm going to see how his teams perform.He has been no better in his first three years than Polk was in his last three years. Those arejust the facts. I guess I know moreabout the facts than you do and that makes me an idiot. MY expectations are that this team finish at .500 or above in SEC play. I'll be satisfied with that. Hell, Todd, the baseball guru thinks we should be better.</p>

 

[SchruteDog]

11) The fact that we finished the season ranked #15 last year is an irrelevant fluke for which Cohen deserves no credit.<div>12) It's also irrelevant that our final RPI was 16 last year. We only got to the Super Regionals and a top 15 ranking by luck.</div><div>13) Losing two one-run road games against one of the best SEC teams to start the season 0-2 means that we won't make the NCAA Tournament.</div><div>14) If we do make the NCAA Tournament as a 3 seed, it's not a sign of good coaching with the graduations last year and injuries this year -- it means Cohen should and will be fired.</div>

Except for the fact that when "one of the best SEC teams" was shut out by Appalachian State at Alex Box, we had people baaaaing about winning the series or a possible sweep.

 

[o_riverdawg]

Almost winning a game isn't winning a game. Hell, we lost two OT games and another by 2 points in basketball this year. Win those, and we're solidly in the NCAA tourney. But Stans was roasted (and he deserved much of it). But everyone here is coming up with excuse after excuse for Cohen, acting like our injured players are Hall of Famers. We weren't hitting before they got hurt. Other then the team getting an easy draw through a regional and winning it and a walk-off homer by Nick Vickerson in the super regional last year, they have done next to nothing in Cohen's three years, and it looks like we will be struggling to get to .500 in SEC play this year too. But everyone on here kisses his *** like he's Tony LaRussa. He makes some of the stupidest in-game decisions I can remember, and gets numerous guys thrown out on the bases taking crazy chances (which is how Bradford got hurt) I guess all the Lemmings just take their cue from Coach34. He hates Stansbury, so they all do. He loves Cohen, so they all do too. It's pretty pathetic.

 

[CadaverDawg]

Y'all want to keep saying the "Cohen was 2 outs from the CWS" argument is equivalent to the "Stans was 2 OT losses from the dance" argument, but they are nowhere close to being the same. Cohen was 2 outs from the Elite 8 in baseball.....Stansbury was 2 OT losses from the Final 68 in basketball! Are you that 17ing stupid. Think before you post, morons.

The big argument against Stans was that he had no Sweet 16's and a lack of tourney success. Cohen took us to the Sweet 16 of baseball in his third year so obviously he should not be lumped in with Stansbury. Especially since Stans had 14 years to get to that point and couldn't. And had better talent to get there with, but still couldn't. So anybody wanting to bash Cohen like he's stansbury is a complete idiot

 

[dawgstudent]

I'm fine with Cohen. But if we don't make it this year - it's just like Stansbury - that's 1 out of 4 years of postseason play. Things look somewhat promising to make one this year.

 

[Hector.sixpack]

Do u think they are better than last year?

 

[o_riverdawg]

Cohen was a Matty Ott meltdown and an error by the LSU second baseman from not making the postseason last year. If we don't come back and win that Friday night game against LSU because of Ott and the 2B melting down, we don't make the SEC Tournament. And if we don't make the SEC Tournament, there's no way in hell we make the NCAA Tournament, seeing we barely slipped in as a 3 seed anyway. So if the LSU 2B doesn't make an error and Ott doesn't give up the game and we end the season being swept at home by LSU, would the Lemmings still have Cohen's dick in their mouths? Probably so, because Coach34 would.

 

[CadaverDawg]

the fact that once he made it he went to a game 3 in a Super Regional and lost to the eventual runner up? Stupidity at its finest

 

[o_riverdawg]

But we got a very good draw. Played a weak 2 seed in USM, then thanks to an upset, got to play Austin Peay in the semifinals, whose starting pitcher developed a blister early and had to come out of the game. Then we played a Georgia Tech team who was pitching a guy who had barely pitched all year because one of their other pitchers had a bad back. Thanks to Caleb Reed and Nick Vickerson, we did win a game in the supers. And we might have won the whole thing if Cohen hadn't made one of his patented retarded in-game decisions and decided to pitch to Florida's hottest hitter with first base open. But we almost won, and we almost won the LSU series this weekend, so it's ok.

 

[CadaverDawg]

And as you can see in this thread, I'm not arguing that. I'm not one of those big time Stansbury bashers, and I'm also not the biggest Cohen supporter though I do like him and think he will be successful here as head coach. I'm just an observer of this stupid thread that wanted to make sure people knew that Cohen barely missing the CWS is FAR better of an achievement than Stansbury barely missing the NCAA Tournament. And Cohen did it in year 3 with far less talent and MUCH tougher competition in the SEC than Stansbury. It's just a dumb argument. If people want to bash Cohen then bash away, but don't bring up last year's run as an example.....he overachieved last year in terms of his talent, meanwhile Stans constantly underachieves....oops, I meant underachievED

 

[CadaverDawg]

but unlike Cohen, he couldn't even get there to 17 one up. I'm not saying we are playing great ball this year, but to try to compare Cohen to Stansbury is laughable at this point. Cohen has already been deeper into the postseason than Stansbury ever was in 14 years. Just give it up until you have an argument.

Not to mention the fact that you are doing it when we are like 23 games into the season and could very well make the postseason again this year. It's just a completely dumb argument, and the timing of it makes it even dumber. You guys are so obsessed with trying to get Coach34 back, that you try to do it with pathetic arguments and it does nothing but make him smile I'm sure.

 

[o_riverdawg]

I don't hate Cohen, and was very much in favor of his hire. But I've been disappointed in the results so far. If we don't make the postseason this year or barely slip in as a 3 seed again, next year is a make or break year.

 

[Coach34]

but unlike Cohen, he couldn't even get there to 17 one up. I'm not saying we are playing great ball this year, but to try to compare Cohen to Stansbury is laughable at this point. Cohen has already been deeper into the postseason than Stansbury ever was in 14 years. Just give it up until you have an argument.

Not to mention the fact that you are doing it when we are like 23 games into the season and could very well make the postseason again this year. It's just a completely dumb argument, and the timing of it makes it even dumber. You guys are so obsessed with trying to get Coach34 back, that you try to do it with pathetic arguments and it does nothing but make him smile I'm sure.

 

[Coach34]

I don't hate Cohen, and was very much in favor of his hire. But I've been disappointed in the results so far. If we don't make the postseason this year or barely slip in as a 3 seed again, next year is a make or break year.

That some of the dumbest **** I've read on here in awhile- and that is hard to achieve

 

[Goat Still Grindin]

nm

 

[War Machine Dawg]

And that was without CT, Brownlee, or Norris in the lineup. And yes, we're absolutely more talented than we were last season. The only 3 guys from last season that we lost who'd have a chance to play this season at all are Vickerson, Ogden, and Shepherd. And Shepherd would still only be a late inning defensive sub. I think Vickerson would start at 2B and Frazier at short. Or Frazier at 2B and Ogden at 3B. But the overall talent level is vastly improved. We're just inexperienced right now. We'll continue to improve at the plate as the season goes along and guys gain valuable ABs. Honestly, the only guy in the lineup that I have a problem with right now is Britton. But with the 4 guys we have out, there's just no way to shuffle the lineup and remove him right now. Hopefully when CT comes back next weekend, we'll wise up and move Henderson to the infield.

Oh, and our pitching is night-and-day better than last season. We essentially had all of about 4 pitchers worth a damn last season. Now we have plenty of arms, so we should be able to hang in most games and give ourselves a chance.

Anyone who thinks we can't finish better than .500, make the SECT, and the NCAAT doesn't know a damn thing about baseball. Period. And to make it clear, if we don't make both tourneys, I'll be among the first to say Cohen needs to be on the hot seat next season. But some of you need to chill the 17 down right now. Baseball is a long damn season - 50+ games. Losing one or two early, especially with 5 players out, isn't going to make or break a season. Now if anyone else goes down for a significant amount of time, like Stratton, Routt, or Mitchell, I reserve the right to change my stance.

 

[KurtRambis4]

saying things like Brownlee isn't any good makes you an idiot

 

[Todd4State]

that the umpire started acting like a complete *** in game three and cost us the series? We probably should have won that series.

Anyway, one game doesn't make you in or out in a 50+ game baseball season.

LSU's RPI was overinflated by the RPI gurus last year- they were a lot further out from making it than the experts thought because they played a lot of home games vs. weak teams. And probably because they are LSU.

 

[Hector.sixpack]

Last year, when I watched us play at the beginning of the season I thought we'd be lucky to get to a regional. This year, when I first saw us take the field I thought we "looked" like a legit SEC team. My only question at the time was at SS, and looks like that has been addressed. The ingredients are there for us to win a lot of games...we just aren't going to hit a whole lot of extra base hits. We have to get our lead off man on base.

 

[ReubenJames]

we had played Kentucky (whoeveryone else played)and swept UK, and not played UGA who swept us, there would have been no squeaking into the tourney. Or if we substituted UK for USC, UF, or VANDY, it would have still been a big turnaround. I don't think Cohen realized coming back was gonna be this tough, but the hole was deep. Time will even out the ifs, yea or nay for Cohen.

 

[ScaldedDawg]