Thoughts on another stellar UK season opener
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The big difference in the halves is the interceptions in the first half. Sothern Miss was running the ball very well but the interceptions stopped their momentum.
The second half Stoops tried to sit on his lead, like always, the offense went conservative and So Miss packed it in and came after them. The d quit doing anything but playing straight up and So Miss ran all over them
What was your previous user name?
And pray tell, when in the 2nd half was our dline causing havoc?
You do know that wasn't us playing Southern Cal right?
You sir are pissing me off. Never said the second half. Did you watch the first half? And yes we have no business playing Southern Cal like Alabama has no business playing Kent State, Western and Chattanooga. USM was a very solid football team and our AD was an idiot for scheduling them for an opener.
all of those problems havent been fixed in the past 370 days... if not 900 days.......... give me one reason why another 45 will make a difference?
I agree with this take. The problem most UK fans are having today is that they saw "CUSA" printed beside the name of the team on the other sideline and assumed that Southern Miss was an inferior opponent. Phil Steele has them winning their division in CUSA. A loss to Southern Miss does not also mean a loss to Florida, Tennessee, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, and Missouri. Southern Miss would likely be competitive with all of those teams. UK will be, too.
We don't need to fire stoops unless we have a better coach lined up.
We're much better on the OL, although our OTs just aren't up to par.
The DL talent is actually worse than when Stoops got here. Think about that for a second. Horrible. That's why I think Brumbaugh gets a pass.
Barker looked great most of the night. They only had 14 snaps the second half. They didn't go well, but plenty went great in the first half.
I liked what I saw from our offense. I felt like we had a plan and were well coached. Even with a total defensive collapse, we're probably an iffy holding penalty away from a nice drive to retake the lead. That's given only 14 snaps. In fact, if Stoops doesn't cut it is wouldn't mind Gran as the HC.
Our defense was putrid in the 2nd half. Zero adjustment in 2nd half. They ran traps and counter all night and we never adjusted until about 3 minutes left in the game. Like UL, it's ridiculous to think a team can run the same play over and over with no adjustment. Elliot should not survive this game.
We're much better on the OL, although our OTs just aren't up to par.
The DL talent is actually worse than when Stoops got here. Think about that for a second. Horrible. That's why I think Brumbaugh gets a pass.
Barker looked great most of the night. They only had 14 snaps the second half. They didn't go well, but plenty went great in the first half.
I liked what I saw from our offense. I felt like we had a plan and were well coached. Even with a total defensive collapse, we're probably an iffy holding penalty away from a nice drive to retake the lead. That's given only 14 snaps. In fact, if Stoops doesn't cut it is wouldn't mind Gran as the HC.
Our defense was putrid in the 2nd half. Zero adjustment in 2nd half. They ran traps and counter all night and we never adjusted until about 3 minutes left in the game. Like UL, it's ridiculous to think a team can run the same play over and over with no adjustment. Elliot should not survive this game.
what part of Dawson being the massive scapegoat to save face for Stoops last year and coming back to destroy us and make him look like a retarded child did you miss out on?
We have more talent than them.. a coach in year 4 rather than year 1... and they have our supposed to be God awful OC.. and outscored us 34 to 0 in the final 32 minutes of the game
Sorry your feelings are hurt. What did you say your previous username was?
Why should an SEC team whine about a CUSA team for an opener?
USC and Vandy played SEC teams.
LSU went to Wisconsin.
Bama played USC.
Defeatist thinking here.
Nothing to do with CUSA, if we lay down for any of our opponents like we did last night it will be the same. Were you not here for the UL game last year? I think you were.
Brohm is a better coach and people near there say he'd take the job. I say talk to him....... get it ironed out and make the coaching trade
And how old are you and how long have you watched Kentucky football? I personally want Kentucky to leave the SEC and have felt that way for years.
We are at a complete disadvantage in recruiting. Football still a way of life in nearly every other state other than KY and our small population gives us less in state recruits.
So we hire guys that have inroads in Ohio because parents usually favor schools they can drive to watch their kids play.
Other than Brooks this guy is the closest we have come at being relavent since Curci. If you say Hal Mumme you are crazy. In my opinion AD pushed Brooks away and made huge mistake. But the facts are what they are.
I am not sure you really get who picks the coaches here. Pretty sure I have a strong understanding. The money has been finally invested in football and I believe you will be signing a different song by the way at the end of the year. If I am wrong we will have lost nothing.
Thats the same people who fight reality no matter what... Like yourself
I'm not sure that Dawson was the problem last year...
If Stoops hadn't have micro-managed him, he'd have done fine.
Dawson made Stoops look like an idiot because maybe he IS an idiot.
Now who is being defeatist? 13 winning seasons in my lifetime and you think we should be playing USC for the home opener.
You need to rethink your expectations. We are not elite in football just because we are a member of the SEC. Our athletics administration is hooked on the cocaine of SEC football revenue. And to date we have taken the money without much regard about building the football program.
You think logically about that.
How old am I?
Relevant? Relevant as to what? Recruiting?
I dont know who picks the coaches?
You are one uniformed dolt. You dont know anything.
Have you ever met a coach?
Have you been to a coach's house?
Have coaches been to your house?
Have you travelled with coaches?
Have you been in private practices?
Have you talked to Mitch 1 on 1?
I have done all of these going a ways back so before you make yourself look any dumber just stop trying the personal jabs as you will get humiliated.
And keep avoiding the lost password former username question.
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I don't think this one lost his password, I'm guessing he was banned.
If that is all you would have said many more would agree with you.
Stoops is an issue, but there is much more and it starts at the top.
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last year and this summer i said we need to recruit dt's we can get 1*2*3* what ever we could get, not mama's boy. some of the worst play ever,. the rest of OUR scholarships need to go for any kind of linemen available, no linemen no hope....we have 2nd and 3rd team players that at least will fight in the trench's and not stand there and watch....... Guy Morrison who fans have forgotten could really help....JUST ASK....:football:
Dawson was definitely a problem. He was wedging a divide in the locker room. I will say this, he wasn't the only problem. Eliot should have been fired too.
It smells like we have another subtle sarcastic UL troll on our hands. He probably picked that username to needle the real John Blue, because he's butthurt he banned him under his other poser username.
I'm not going to resort to calling any other fan a dolt or a retard. If everyone agreed exactly on the issues this wouldn't be a fun forum, and it could be named CLONES Illustrated.
I was at the game last night, all the way to 00:00. Frankly, I was stunned. Just like unstoppable Jojo Kemp running the Wildcat against South Carolina, we could not stop their run.
Credit: Dawson.
I am blessed to have a wife who loves football. We haven't missed a home game in 25 years. We also have not missed the bowl games since the Mumme era. I haven't missed one since Claiborn (all eight).
However, I was disappointed to already learn in game #1 that our hopes to get a bowl berth this season are nil. In years past there was hope and anticipation several games into the season. This year the reality hit in the third qtr.
So I have to admit I think UK football is rated '60" TV' and not 'butts in the $1000 seats'.
Mitch Barnhart should implement a one-game 'test drive' policy where all the season ticket fans get the first game to evaluate their investment in season tickets, and, if they don't like what they see, they can opt for a refund.
I would opt out.
I was at the game last night, all the way to 00:00. Frankly, I was stunned. Just like unstoppable Jojo Kemp running the Wildcat against South Carolina, we could not stop their run.
Credit: Dawson.
I am blessed to have a wife who loves football. We haven't missed a home game in 25 years. We also have not missed the bowl games since the Mumme era. I haven't missed one since Claiborn (all eight).
However, I was disappointed to already learn in game #1 that our hopes to get a bowl berth this season are nil. In years past there was hope and anticipation several games into the season. This year the reality hit in the third qtr.
So I have to admit I think UK football is rated '60" TV' and not 'butts in the $1000 seats'.
Mitch Barnhart should implement a one-game 'test drive' policy where all the season ticket fans get the first game to evaluate their investment in season tickets, and, if they don't like what they see, they can opt for a refund.
I would opt out.
It does appear that once the game starts and U.K. experiences some adversity Coach Stoops gets so worked up he can't be effective because he is so mad.
Ktime; They have done that from day one. Stoops first year thats how the dline played there technic.
I believe its there scheme.
He needs to change it and attack the line of scrimmage. 8 in the box attack attack attack. Blitz/stunt ect.
Sure they will get burned at times,but you need to get your def off the field and hope you make the big play or force a 3 and out. Or they score and you get your offense back out there..
No other option in what i see!
Anyone who thinks Stoops and Elliott can ditch their schemes after the first game and teach an already young or inexperienced group a different defense are fooling themselves. Add in an ineffective and light roster on dline and you have a real mess on your hands. There is no tangible evidence in 3 seasons under Stoops that his players get better as the season wears on so I am not expecting these younger guys to develop much as the season goes on.
The only shot this team has to make a bowl game is for Stoops to say F it and let Gran try and win in shootouts because there is zero chance this Oline is capable of running the ball down SEC defenses throats and play possession football to keep his poor defense off the field.
Next time I hear Stoops say a player has poor technique, etc I am going to scream. It's the same excuses time and time again. If they have poor technique then what the hell are your coaches teaching them because they seem to get worse and not better.
The only shot this team has to make a bowl game is for Stoops to say F it and let Gran try and win in shootouts because there is zero chance this Oline is capable of running the ball down SEC defenses throats and play possession football to keep his poor defense off the field.
Next time I hear Stoops say a player has poor technique, etc I am going to scream. It's the same excuses time and time again. If they have poor technique then what the hell are your coaches teaching them because they seem to get worse and not better.
Did John Calipari have UK basketball back on the map. Yep, and he did it right away. I know it takes a lot of players in football while in basketball just two or three players can have an impact but the point is, those who can win, do. Those who can't, lose.
You guys calling me a troll because I won't join you Fire Stoops "club". Wow! UK alum living in Lexington and have watched this program since Sonny Collins was the man. Have seen the heartbreaking losses. You guys most likely were calling for Brooks' head before he turned things around. You guys are whiners, I'll watch the next 11 games and see what that brings. Brianpoe go on record right now and tell the board if you would be happy with 6-6 after the loss last night. The rest of you calling for Stoops head should also go on the record and say how Stoops keeps his job here. Go ahead
Yes it was poor in the first half. They gave up 17 points to a CUSA team and failed to play prevent defense and gave up 80 yard bomb
Yeah, even though I do think that he's probably a good offensive mind, he does seem like a turd.
I had forgotten about the stuff you mentioned.
UK's only chance to be decent is air it out with our impressive WR and get Boom the ball as much as possible (13-15 runs a game and 4-5 passes to him). Let JoJo get in there when Boom tires and ditch the idea of Horton/King/Snell splitting carries. Total waste of time.
What I saw in Dawson was an offensive coordinator who foolishly and needlessly attempted a lot of passes in the first half, causing his team to lose the ball three times and fall behind 35-10. It should have been clear from scouting both his team (new offensive line players) and UKs that a "runto set up the pass" offensive strategy was clearly called for in this game.
He's certainly no genius at developing game strategy, and he got very lucky that his failed strategy didn't cost USM the game.
Not really sure how you can say UK has more talent than USM. Is that based on some kind of recruiting ranking comparison? As has been demonstrated repeatedly, the recruiting rankings are flawed. USM recruits the Mississippi JC ranks hard and also takes quite a few transfers from SEC schools - two areas that are either undervalued or not addressed at all by the recruiting rankings.
Think it's interesting to see where the fanbase was after that season opener, and where they are now.
Not trying to call anyone out, because I was one of those who thought Stoops needed to go join his brothers in Oklahoma after that Southern Miss debacle.
Once again, big props to Stoops, the coaches, and players.
Not trying to call anyone out, because I was one of those who thought Stoops needed to go join his brothers in Oklahoma after that Southern Miss debacle.
Once again, big props to Stoops, the coaches, and players.