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CHARLESTON, W.Va. — Gov. Jim Justice vetoed a bill that would have allowed home-schooled students to play sports at public schools in West Virginia.
 

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CHARLESTON, W.Va. — Gov. Jim Justice vetoed a bill that would have allowed home-schooled students to play sports at public schools in West Virginia.

He did sign the law that allows people to carry conceal in parks, as well as the law that allows carriers to drop kids off at school.
 

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He did sign the law that allows people to carry conceal in parks, as well as the law that allows carriers to drop kids off at school.
 

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CHARLESTON, W.Va. — Gov. Jim Justice vetoed a bill that would have allowed home-schooled students to play sports at public schools in West Virginia.

What's he afraid of, competition?
 
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If home-schooled kids want to play sports on teams at public schools, attend the public school. Quit yer bitching and whining about it.
 

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I think it's all about controlling the student athlete, meaning, player "x" attends Riverside High School, and to maintain his eligibility to play, he must attend school, he must pass classes, etc. How would you control these rules with kids who are home schooled?
 

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What was his reasoning? Seems pretty stupid on its face.
I don't think he commented as to why he vetoed it. The states sports governing body opposed the bill. “We just feel like it is going to create an opportunity for people to game the system,” SSAC Executive Director Bernie Dolan told MetroNews.
 

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I think it's all about controlling the student athlete, meaning, player "x" attends Riverside High School, and to maintain his eligibility to play, he must attend school, he must pass classes, etc. How would you control these rules with kids who are home schooled?

That's easy. You "commit" to the school of your choice. Just like Intercollegiate athletes do. Want to transfer? Sit out a year. You only get 4 years of eligibility to compete within a specified age time frame 14-19. 5 age years to play 4 years of H.S. ball.

It could be managed.
 

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“We just feel like it is going to create an opportunity for people to game the system,” SSAC Executive Director Bernie Dolan told MetroNews.
I wonder what part LaLa Land Bernie Dolan has been living in. Thats been going on for years.
 

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It could be managed.
It's possible, because I see it being managed here where I live. With that said, we're talking West Virginia here. The schools are in disarray, so I want to see them begin to manage that before it's too late. The schools in my home county (Fayette) are likely the worse in the state. So much so, it's embarrassing.
 

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It's possible, because I see it being managed here where I live. With that said, we're talking West Virginia here. The schools are in disarray, so I want to see them begin to manage that before it's too late. The schools in my home county (Fayette) are likely the worse in the state. So much so, it's embarrassing.


I can't speak on that, however I know we do have home schooled kids competing here in Georgia. It only gets to be a problem if you have some schools going out and recruiting for kids like Colleges do.

If the kids are simply picking those schools of athletic programs they wish to compete in, it's usually not a problem.
 

bornaneer

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It's possible, because I see it being managed here where I live. With that said, we're talking West Virginia here. The schools are in disarray, so I want to see them begin to manage that before it's too late. The schools in my home county (Fayette) are likely the worse in the state. So much so, it's embarrassing.
West Virginia requires testing or portfolio review for home schooled. Virginia requires testing if the teacher does not have a teaching certificate. Testing is available in both states.
 

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I think it's all about controlling the student athlete, meaning, player "x" attends Riverside High School, and to maintain his eligibility to play, he must attend school, he must pass classes, etc. How would you control these rules with kids who are home schooled?
Marshall is right on. Head down this road, and kids in Texas and Florida will be home schooled in order to ensure their football talent isn't hindered by academic requirements or too much homework.
 

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I think it's all about controlling the student athlete, meaning, player "x" attends Riverside High School, and to maintain his eligibility to play, he must attend school, he must pass classes, etc. How would you control these rules with kids who are home schooled?

That's a statement mired in not knowing a thing about homeschooling.
 

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You clowns have no clue. So you are OK with a kid not liking the education that is going on, but participating in the sports programs? This isn't about "competition" like you fair-weather Republicans want to make it out to be. It's about not allowing RECRUITING to take place. If you go on home-school, then join up with a club team or AAU team. There, problem solved.
 

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I don't think he commented as to why he vetoed it. The states sports governing body opposed the bill. “We just feel like it is going to create an opportunity for people to game the system,” SSAC Executive Director Bernie Dolan told MetroNews.
Laughable
 

bornaneer

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You clowns have no clue. So you are OK with a kid not liking the education that is going on, but participating in the sports programs? This isn't about "competition" like you fair-weather Republicans want to make it out to be. It's about not allowing RECRUITING to take place. If you go on home-school, then join up with a club team or AAU team. There, problem solved.
Make no difference to me. I was just asking for thoughts. HOWEVER....you are the one that is clueless....RECRUITING has been going on for years in HS sports. I know because I did it when my daughter played in HS and when I was involved in youth sports coaching. Its sad that a dolt like you ALWAYS has to turn it into a political issue.
 
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Umm.....pretty obvious. If the parents don't want to send their child to public schools, then they shouldn't have the BENEFITS of public schools (extra-curricular activities).
Right....so punish the kid for the sins of their parents. Agree to disagree.
 

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No, not agree to disagree. There are many club teams and AAU teams that the kid can play on. Simple solution. Stay at home, play on those.
lol. Fine then. Disagree to disagree. Maybe they aren't good enough or can't afford a travel team/club. Just seems silly to punish the kid. We are talking about teenage kids learning valuable lessons for being on a team.
 

MountaineerWV

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lol. Fine then. Disagree to disagree. Maybe they aren't good enough or can't afford a travel team/club. Just seems silly to punish the kid. We are talking about teenage kids learning valuable lessons for being on a team.

So, public schools keeps every child? Pretty sure that schools cut players all the time. So, if that kid isn't "good enough", then there's a good chance they get cut on the public school too. And listen to what you are saying. The kid "isn't good enough" for the travel/club team.......and the parents don't think the school system is "good enough" to have their child. So, maybe you should petition to FORCE the travel/club team to take these home-school kid???? [winking]
 

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And while we are at it, let's just send a message to all of our citizens and allow anyone to become our president. I don't mean any American citizen, I mean anyone in the world. Or, let's allow for someone to serve in Congress or POTUS to live in a foreign country while they are an elected official. I mean, they may not like living in the U.S., so why punish them for that? [thumbsup]
 

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Maybe they would IF their taxes were supporting the AAU teams. Gawd....that was easy.

Tax dollars going to EDUCATION.....about 1-5% going towards athletics. You realize that, right? That most of the athletic money is generated revenue, and NOT from tax dollars........but you probably don't see it that way. Shocked.
 

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And while we are at it, let's just send a message to all of our citizens and allow anyone to become our president. I don't mean any American citizen, I mean anyone in the world. Or, let's allow for someone to serve in Congress or POTUS to live in a foreign country while they are an elected official. I mean, they may not like living in the U.S., so why punish them for that? [thumbsup]
That's just silly. The bill required the homeschooled kid to tryout/play for the school in their district. Plus we already let a Kenyan mooslum be President.
 

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That's just silly. The bill required the homeschooled kid to tryout/play for the school in their district. Plus we already let a Kenyan mooslum be President.

Yeah, well he didn't live in Kenya while being president........I say let that happen.......[thumbsup]
 

bornaneer

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And while we are at it, let's just send a message to all of our citizens and allow anyone to become our president. I don't mean any American citizen, I mean anyone in the world. Or, let's allow for someone to serve in Congress or POTUS to live in a foreign country while they are an elected official. I mean, they may not like living in the U.S., so why punish them for that? [thumbsup]
So what happens if public school A does not offer a certain sport and public school B does. Should the student from school A be allowed to play at school B?
 

MountaineerWV

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So what happens if public school A does not offer a certain sport and public school B does. Should the student from school A be allowed to play at school B?

Yeah, if they MOVE to that district. [thumbsup] But in all seriousness, this does happen quite a lot. Magnet schools......and Catholic Private schools.
 

MountaineerWV

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Make no difference to me. I was just asking for thoughts. HOWEVER....you are the one that is clueless....RECRUITING has been going on for years in HS sports. I know because I did it when my daughter played in HS and when I was involved in youth sports coaching. Its sad that a dolt like you ALWAYS has to turn it into a political issue.

Recruiting does go on. But this will be different. Schools will be able to recruit and use home-schooling to get student-athletes academically eligible easier.

And I'm a dolt? HAHA. You have no clue who I am. Your scenario, well multiply that by 10X and that's my personal story with my children.
 

bornaneer

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Yeah, if they MOVE to that district. [thumbsup] But in all seriousness, this does happen quite a lot. Magnet schools......and Catholic Private schools.
You are telling me a student from a private Catholic school can play sports at a public school that they do not attend?
 

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How would you control these rules with kids who are home schooled?
Off the top of my head, I'll say with testing; use basics like math and English skills. Maybe throw in some civics. I don't know what's at issue here. Hopefully, more information will be forthcoming. Until then, let's just ***** at each other.
 

bornaneer

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Recruiting does go on. But this will be different. Schools will be able to recruit and use home-schooling to get student-athletes academically eligible easier.

And I'm a dolt? HAHA. You have no clue who I am. Your scenario, well multiply that by 10X and that's my personal story with my children.
I called you a dolt BECAUSE you brought politics into the discussion.
 

MountaineerWV

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You are telling me a student from a private Catholic school can play sports at a public school that they do not attend?

No. I'm saying that a student at a public school just has to say "I'm Catholic" and they are permitted to transfer out of district (and not move) to the Catholic school.