Tiger High basketball

[BriantheDawg]

the University basketball team and their pompous fans. And if it's so obvious they have a hell of a team, then why do they only have 1, maybe two good wins this year while losing the other 3 games that were played against decent competition?

2-3 against decent competition is not obviously anything, except mediocre at best.

 

[8dog]

and didn't go to Memphis, hate them. Im pretty sure all of my friends in memphis would give their life for Mario Chalmers.

 

[Berserker.sixpack]

We need that beating a dead horse pic here ...

 

[BriantheDawg]

because they play in a weak conference. I said they weren't playing their best basketball when they played Memphis. Ok, that may have been a stretch (I actually thought they played Memphis a little closer to when they had lost 4 of 6 when I posted that), and I admitted that already. But now you're bringing San Diego into the argument? They are good? Really? They beat us, therefore that makes them good? 15-16 in a weak Conference is good. Riight. Keep on thinking that.

And nobody was comparing State and Gonzaga. Gonzaga is much better than we are right now. Their wins against San Francisco, Loyola Maramount and Pepperdine just don't impress me that much.</p>

 

[hatfieldms]

the University basketball team and their pompous fans. And if it's so obvious they have a hell of a team, then why do they only have 1, maybe two good wins this year while losing the other 3 games that were played against decent competition?

2-3 against decent competition is not obviously anything, except mediocre at best.

Once again it took a little bit for them to get going. That seems to happen when you lose 3 starters to the NBA. Do you really think they are the same team now that they were at the beginning of the season?

 

[BriantheDawg]

But with their resume, they deserve no higher than a 4 seed. Plain and simple. And if they were to get a 4 seed (not going to happen) and then make it to the Elite 8, I'd give them their due then. Making it to the Elite 8 as a 1 or 2 just doesn't impress me that much. Especially when you played NOBODY all year long to get you the 1 or 2 seed.

 

[hatfieldms]

But with their resume, they deserve no higher than a 4 seed. Plain and simple. And if they were to get a 4 seed (not going to happen) and then make it to the Elite 8, I'd give them their due then. Making it to the Elite 8 as a 1 or 2 just doesn't impress me that much. Especially when you played NOBODY all year long to get you the 1 or 2 seed.

We will agree to disagree then. they are without a doubt one of the top 8 teams in the country so I thin they should be at least a 2 seed. I think a 1 is probably to high, but I have no problem with them getting a 2 seed

 

[BriantheDawg]

2 teams they lost to, are ranked between 15-20. But Memphis is a Top 8 team because they plowed thru CUSA? Riiight.

 

[seshomoru]

How many times have you seen them play?

 

[BriantheDawg]

I'm not that sure, why?

 

[Frances Drebin]

...facts get in the way of your argument. C-USA has more teams in the RPI top 50 and RPI top 100 this year than they have since Louisville and Cincinnati left. The league was much, much tougher this year than it was last year. It's not the Big East, that's for sure, but it's not the pushover you say it is, either. I would venture a guess that very few teams in the nation would go undefeated in C-USA. Maybe five or so, but that's it.

And no, Memphis doesn't deserve a #1 seed. But they're not the same team they were earlier in the year. They may go to the elite 8, or they may lose in the second round, but given their history, I wouldn't bet against them. I think Pittsburgh is a tough matchup for them, but they can play with anyone else in the country.

 

[lawdawg02]

and i didn't compare us to gonzaga, except to say that i wish our terrible basketball would get us 18 wins in 19 games.
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[hatfieldms]

2 teams they lost to, are ranked between 15-20. But Memphis is a Top 8 team because they plowed thru CUSA? Riiight.

Once again that was at the beginning of the year. I feel pretty confident they would beat both of Thor teams now. Where would you rank them?

 

[Frances Drebin]

...you look at everything in a vacuum. State destroyed Houston and Houston went 10-6 in C-USA, blah, blah. Six teams beat UT at home, so a win there is just "okay", blah, blah. You clearly know nothing about what you're trying to argue. No two games or situations are alike. Sure, others beat UT at home, but did you know that UT and Memphis are heated rivals with two coaches who hate each other and rabid fanbases who hate each other, and there are huge implications to recruiting from that game? It doesn't matter if Tennessee has a losing record at home, that's a tough, tough game for Memphis, it's not the same as Auburn playing UT. As for these conference games, all of the other schools in C-USA treat that game like a championship and sell out their gyms. In other words, Memphis is getting everyone's best shot, every night.

So many of you have such penis envy over their success that you can't appreciate it for what it is. I'm not a huge Memphis fan but I appreciate good basketball, which is what they play. Folks are quick to acknowledge that they were great last year, but at this time last year, there were morons like you on here spewing the same type of stuff. Every year it gets said, and every year they still go on a run. Playing in C-USA didn't hurt them last year, when the league was worse than it was this year, and it probably won't hurt them this year. I don't think they'll go as far because they aren't as good this year as they were last year. They'll probably get a two seed, and they are worthy of it.

 

[hatfieldms]

I'm not that sure, why?

I very seriously doubt you have watched 4 entire Memphis games this year

 

[BriantheDawg]

Their record is impressive. The teams they've beat - not so much. They're a good team. I'm not saying they're not a good team, all I'm saying is they've beaten one, maybe 2 good teams all season out of the 5 they've played, which doesn't deserve anything higher than a 4 seed. They will get a 1 or 2 though, and I think that's ********.</p>

 

[BriantheDawg]

are 3 that I watched. I may have seen another game or two. Why is that hard to believe?

 

[hatfieldms]

Their record is impressive. The teams they've beat - not so much. They're a good team. I'm not saying they're not a good team, all I'm saying is they've beaten one, maybe 2 good teams all season out of the 5 they've played, which doesn't deserve anything higher than a 4 seed. They will get a 1 or 2 though, and I think that's ********.</p>

Sorry but if you have seen them play lately you would know they belong much higher than 10-15. Thatisnt even debateable

 

[MSUCostanza]

I heart Mario Chalmers. Needless to say I was a happy camper when I went to work The Day After That Game. There are Tiger fans that refuse to even admit it happened.

Yes, the media is unbearable here, Brian, but what would you expect? It's the city team, there's a history there as well that you might want to research and find out why Memphians who have no connection to the school still live and die by Tiger basketball. Calipari plays the media like a fiddle and on "amateur hour" (aka, the local news), they lap up everything he says as gospel. It is comical. All that being said, they are a damn good team, and I definitely think would've won the SEC or come damn close. You can hate them, and still begrudgingly admit that they are good and deserving of a 2-seed.

 

[BriantheDawg]

Looks like the Northwest Rankin Cougars, I mean.......Memphis Tigers, proved me right tonight. It sure is funny what happens when you actually have to play good competition. There is no way with their ******** resume they deserved anything higher than a 4 seed. 25 wins or whatever it was in row doesn't mean jack **** when only 2 of those games were against somebody worth a damn. If this team played in the Big 12, Big East or any other real conference, they'd have lost AT LEAST 4 or 5 more games and they'd have been seeded a little more correctly, a 4 or 5, making their way to the Elite 8 just a little bit tougher.

But hey, there's always next year and another 30 win season that makes them look so much better than they really are. Maybe one day though, the committee will actually see Tiger High for what they really are - an above average team that piles up wins against high school competition. 3-4 against the only decent competition they played this year just isn't too impressive, no matter which way you slice it.

Congratulations, Memphis, on your wonderful season. All of your fans can now go eat a dick.

 

[DovaDawg]

Looks like the Northwest Rankin Cougars, I mean.......Memphis Tigers, proved me right tonight. It sure is funny what happens when you actually have to play good competition. There is no way with their ******** resume they deserved anything higher than a 4 seed. 25 wins or whatever it was in row doesn't mean jack **** when only 2 of those games were against somebody worth a damn. If this team played in the Big 12, Big East or any other real conference, they'd have lost AT LEAST 4 or 5 more games and they'd have been seeded a little more correctly, a 4 or 5, making their way to the Elite 8 just a little bit tougher.

But hey, there's always next year and another 30 win season that makes them look so much better than they really are. Maybe one day though, the committee will actually see Tiger High for what they really are - an above average team that piles up wins against high school competition. 3-4 against the only decent competition they played this year just isn't too impressive, no matter which way you slice it.

Congratulations, Memphis, on your wonderful season. All of your fans can now go eat a dick.

Memphis has one of the top recruiting classes in the country this year and if Evans sticks around and continues to play like he did tonight, Memphis will be a hard team to beat the next few years. Funny that so many on here rag Memphis. Memphis was in a rebuilding year and made it to the Sweet 16 and considers it a disappointing year. Meanwhile we played our way into the Tourney by the skin of our teeth and were one and done once again, yet we were spraying each other with champaign. A NC Game, 2 Elite 8s, and a Sweet 16 in four years, yet we are still bragging about our Final Four run from years ago. By the way, do you remember how successful we were against the "40 Minutes of Hell" defense when Arkansas ran it?

 

[BriantheDawg]

I fully understand that their basketball program is better than ours right now. I do think, however, that if they played in a real conference and couldn't go 67-0 over 4 years or whatever it is now, that their program wouldn't stand out like they do to the media for the amount of ******** victories they've piled up and their fans would be brought back down a notch or two, where they should be. Memphis basketball fans are like Alabama football fans, without the Championships - cocky as hell and they think their **** doesn't stink. They can all go @%@+ themselves.

They proved tonight that if they played actual competition game in, game out - week in, week out - that they'd be in the 15-20 range, not 1-5 range, like I said they should be. It sure is amazing what happens when you're not playing USM, UAB, Tulane and Houston every night. As for their recruits for next year - who gives a ****? It amazes me that someone with NBA potential would like to get ready for the next level, while playing in the CUSA. I guess the chance at winning 30 games in a season for the 6th or 7th time in a row is just too much to pass up.

 

[seshomoru]

The fact that supposedly one of the top 12 teams in the nation beat one of the top 8 teams in the nation somehow proves that Memphis isn't good?

Your shcadenfreude needs some work.

Elite Eight, Elite Eight, Championship game, Sweet 16... I'd love to be bad like that.

 

[DovaDawg]

Memphis is just making the best of the situation they have been dealt. Cal has lobbied to have Memphis move to a bigger conference, but has been unsuccessful. If you are going to play in a ****** conference, then you might as well dominate that conference so bad that the media has to give you attention. I had said since the selection show that if Memphis made it past Mizzou, they would be playing in the NC game again. Mizzou had the defensive set and shooter to match up against the Memphis game plan. This was the game that I expected them to lose if they were going to lose one. I would think that as MSU fans we would appreciate the Memphis situation as the national media is always pick them to underachieve and roots against them. If Stans ever gets them that far, we can expect the same type of treatment.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

and they did it in a rebuilding year, not bad

 

[SpikeDog.sixpack]

Living in Memphis,I glad they lost so I do not have to hear their crap.Like last year I had to buy my daughter a tiger t shirt to wear to school during tournment time same this year also. Yes they are a very good team but there fans ,well that 's a another story. But they were really no higher than a 4 seed.

 

[hatfieldms]

The fact that supposedly one of the top 12 teams in the nation beat one of the top 8 teams in the nation somehow proves that Memphis isn't good?

Your shcadenfreude needs some work.

Elite Eight, Elite Eight, Championship game, Sweet 16... I'd love to be bad like that.

Trust me, you cannot reason with him. You either agree with him that they are just an okay team or you are obviously a Memphis fan.

 

[hatfieldms]

Looks like the Northwest Rankin Cougars, I mean.......Memphis Tigers, proved me right tonight. It sure is funny what happens when you actually have to play good competition. There is no way with their ******** resume they deserved anything higher than a 4 seed. 25 wins or whatever it was in row doesn't mean jack **** when only 2 of those games were against somebody worth a damn. If this team played in the Big 12, Big East or any other real conference, they'd have lost AT LEAST 4 or 5 more games and they'd have been seeded a little more correctly, a 4 or 5, making their way to the Elite 8 just a little bit tougher.

But hey, there's always next year and another 30 win season that makes them look so much better than they really are. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Maybe one day though, the committee will actually see Tiger High for what they really are - an above average team that piles up wins against high school competition.</span> 3-4 against the only decent competition they played this year just isn't too impressive, no matter which way you slice it.

Congratulations, Memphis, on your wonderful season. All of your fans can now go eat a dick.

So you think the committee got it wrong this year and last year? Were they just an above average team that piled up last wins last year as well? I think I remember you telling me that a few times last year.

 

[BriantheDawg]

doesn't make them one of the Top 8 teams in the nation. So, when they played a Top 12 team, they got their asses handed to them. I said they deserved no better than a 4 seed and they proved me to be right last night. I never said they weren't good, just not as good as their bs record indicated they were. Like I said previously, getting to the Elite 8 because you're a 1 or 2 seed (which you basically did nothing to earn), doesn't impress me all that much.

Here are the 7 decent teams Memphis played this season:

Xavier - LOST
GTown - LOST
Syracuse - LOST
UT - WON
Gonzaga - WON
Maryland - WON
Mizzou - LOST

Not too impressive no matter how you try to spin it.

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[MSUCostanza]

but this is a dumbass post.

You say they would've lost at least 4 or 5 more games had they played in a "power conference" ("BCS league" for Coach). I agree with you. But that doesn't make them average. Unless you consider a 26-7 record to be average, which I certainly don't. They are a good team, probably overseeded at a 2, but I think should've been a solid 3 seed. How can you watch Tyreke Evans and not be blown away - that dude is awesome. And, again, I cannot stand the sight of him or the way Memphians and the local media massage his balls 24/7, but Calipari is a good college coach.

And next year, even if Evans goes pro, they will be hell on wheels, and might be preseason #1. So get ready.

 

[seshomoru]

You apparently believe a three beating a two proves something. Hell, there isn't a team in this tournament that would have beaten Mizzou last night. I still fail to see how losing to a damn good team playing the game of their life makes you over rated. The only reason I can even come up with is that you just have some personal hatred of Memphis, or you expected this board to laugh along with your stupid little "Tiger High" comments and regurgitate an argument that sounds like Skip Bayless would make if he found Gene's Page.

Memphis had a bad defensive game and that's about as deep as you need to dive into this one. End of story, dude. Bad defensive night aGAINST a white hot and talented team. **** happens. Good teams lose games. Oh well. I actually thought their downfall might be because Tyreke would have a bad game. Instead, he looked like he ought too be a lottery pick. Never thought their defense would falter like that, but their guards looked lost aGAINST the curl motion.

Memphis fills an NBA arena for every game, they have one of the best coaches and recruiters in college basketball today, and they've had a four year run of tournament success that is more than outstanding. They are an elite program now, and you're going to have to deal with that. However, you may now revel in whatever it is you find so satisfying about a three beating a two. You have some serious personal issues with the Memphis basketball team that simply won't allow you to admit they are a really, really good.

 

[ckDOG]

Living in Memphis,I glad they lost so I do not have to hear their crap.Like last year I had to buy my daughter a tiger t shirt to wear to school during tournment time same this year also. Yes they are a very good team but there fans ,well that 's a another story. But they were really no higher than a 4 seed.

I feel your pain. I live in Memphis as well. Yesterday was "support the Tigers day" at work - and by that I mean "dress like a smurf day". Anyhow, I have absolutely no problem with that. Most of the folks that work here grew up in Memphis or went to school there. Support your team - fine. However, I chose not to take part for obvious reasons. I can't count how many times some *** that I've never even seen before would come up to me and say "Where's your blue, man? Support the Tigers". Me, being pissed off, couldn't resist arguing:

Me: I went to MSU - why should I support your school?</p>

***: Uhhh uhh uhh, you live in Memphis. You should be proud of the team. You should support them.</p>

Me: No, I'm not obligated - you wouldn't support MSU if you lived in Starkville. </p>

***: You don't know that.

Me: When is the last time you went to a Lemoyne Owen or Christian Brother basketball game?

***: [Blank Stare]

<17> those guys. </p>

 

[BriantheDawg]

You apparently believe a three beating a two proves something. Hell, there isn't a team in this tournament that would have beaten Mizzou last night. I still fail to see how losing to a damn good team playing the game of their life makes you over rated. The only reason I can even come up with is that you just have some personal hatred of Memphis, or you expected this board to laugh along with your stupid little "Tiger High" comments and regurgitate an argument that sounds like Skip Bayless would make if he found Gene's Page.

Memphis had a bad defensive game and that's about as deep as you need to dive into this one. End of story, dude. Bad defensive night aGAINST a white hot and talented team. **** happens. Good teams lose games. Oh well. I actually thought their downfall might be because Tyreke would have a bad game. Instead, he looked like he ought too be a lottery pick. Never thought their defense would falter like that, but their guards looked lost aGAINST the curl motion.

Memphis fills an NBA arena for every game, they have one of the best coaches and recruiters in college basketball today, and they've had a four year run of tournament success that is more than outstanding. They are an elite program now, and you're going to have to deal with that. However, you may now revel in whatever it is you find so satisfying about a three beating a two. You have some serious personal issues with the Memphis basketball team that simply won't allow you to admit they are a really, really good.

Memphis had a bad defensive game? Why, I wonder why that was?? Maybe because they actually played somebody?? Nooooo - that couldn't be it.

3 wins. 4 losses. aGAINST decent competition does not = really, really good. Sorry, but you're wrong.

 

[memphodawg]

Living in Memphis,I glad they lost so I do not have to hear their crap.Like last year I had to buy my daughter a tiger t shirt to wear to school during tournment time same this year also. Yes they are a very good team but there fans ,well that 's a another story. But they were really no higher than a 4 seed.

Me: When is the last time you went to a Lemoyne Owen or Christian Brother basketball game?

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I'd need a gun and some of Willie Willie Herenton's possie to body guard my white *** to go to one of those games