To all the hippies out there who don't want to do controlled burns

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burns because they want 'nature' to handle things....

Well, fire is one of the ways in which nature handles things....
 

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burns because they want 'nature' to handle things....

Well, fire is one of the ways in which nature handles things....
How close to residential areas do recommend doing controlled burns?
 

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How close to residential areas do recommend doing controlled burns?
Don't care. Those idiots Californians are reaping what they sowed.

Remember how giddy you were every time an anti-vaxxer died of covid?

You should see the smile on my face right now.
 

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Don't care. Those idiots Californians are reaping what they sowed.

Remember how giddy you were every time an anti-vaxxer died of covid?

You should see the smile on my face right now.
Counselors are awaiting your call. I don't get the celebration of other people's deaths and property loss for any reason but in your case it's because of politics. You have some work to do. And irresponsible MAGA media encourages you to feel that way. It's all just sad. Such hate and contempt for people you don't even know. I'm sure a lot of MAGA folks lost their homes and belongings too.
 
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Don't care. Those idiots Californians are reaping what they sowed.

Remember how giddy you were every time an anti-vaxxer died of covid?

You should see the smile on my face right now.

Not everyone in California voted for this. Even the ones that did are probably second guessing themselves right now. I don't know anyone who is taking pleasure from their suffering right now. You sound like controlled opposition with this take.
 

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California residents definitely need to look in the mirror and pick better leadership. I hope they survive and learn from this. It was preventable or at least could have been controlled better.



 

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When it comes to assessing the business impact of climate change, I’ve long looked to Spencer Glendon of Probable Futures. He’s an economist and former head of research at Wellington Management who argues that 12,000 years of climate stability have made us complacent and illiterate about climate change.

As Glendon noted in a commentary we ran last year, “the end of climate stability signals the end of the insurance market as we know it.” That’s because insurance doesn’t protect you against hazards. It’s a financial contract, based on pooled risk, that reimburses you if you’re among the unlucky ones to face a rare and predictable hazard.

When such hazards become unpredictable or heartbreakingly common, affecting everybody in the pool, the market structure crumbles along with the buildings they’re designed to protect.

 
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When it comes to assessing the business impact of climate change, I’ve long looked to Spencer Glendon of Probable Futures. He’s an economist and former head of research at Wellington Management who argues that 12,000 years of climate stability have made us complacent and illiterate about climate change.

As Glendon noted in a commentary we ran last year, “the end of climate stability signals the end of the insurance market as we know it.” That’s because insurance doesn’t protect you against hazards. It’s a financial contract, based on pooled risk, that reimburses you if you’re among the unlucky ones to face a rare and predictable hazard.

When such hazards become unpredictable or heartbreakingly common, affecting everybody in the pool, the market structure crumbles along with the buildings they’re designed to protect.


The Insurance Companies told the leaders of California to get their **** together. Then the politicians passed regulation that Insurance Companies couldn't charge enough to cover a potential situation like this.

This is on the Politicians of California. The voters should hold them accountable.
 

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Counselors are awaiting your call. I don't get the celebration of other people's deaths and property loss for any reason but in your case it's because of politics. You have some work to do. And irresponsible MAGA media encourages you to feel that way. It's all just sad. Such hate and contempt for people you don't even know. I'm sure a lot of MAGA folks lost their homes and belongings too.
It's not because of politics; rather it is people making stupid decisions (voting in these politicians with their retarded policies) then suffering the consequences of their decision. I call it poetic justice.

No different than when the Black Lives Matters idiots block the highway, then get hit by cars at 50 mph. Youtubing "Black Lives Splatter" was awesome until they scrubbed it.
 

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Not everyone in California voted for this. Even the ones that did are probably second guessing themselves right now. I don't know anyone who is taking pleasure from their suffering right now. You sound like controlled opposition with this take.
Not everyone in California lives in an area near burning wildfires either.
 

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Not everyone in California lives in an area near burning wildfires either.

I'm saying it's obvious the Leadership of California is horrible. Everyone understands there are lots of libs that put them in power. However most sane people can at least have empathy for them and hope they learn from this. Smiling about it makes you sound like Moe has his hand up your *** working you like a puppet master. Don't be Moe's *****. Nobody says you have to have sympathy. Empathy shouldn't be that tough to muster though.
 

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I'm saying it's obvious the Leadership of California is horrible. Everyone understands there are lots of libs that put them in power. However most sane people can at least have empathy for them and hope they learn from this. Smiling about it makes you sound like Moe has his hand up your *** working you like a puppet master. Don't be Moe's *****. Nobody says you have to have sympathy. Empathy shouldn't be that tough to muster though.
I enjoy watching people reap what they sow. I can't help it.

And I don't give a **** about anyone in LA, regardless whether their property is burning or not.
 

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I enjoy watching people reap what they sow. I can't help it.

And I don't give a **** about anyone in LA, regardless whether their property is burning or not.

Alot of far left Democrats are like that until it happens to them. The Anarchist of the world just want to watch it burn no matter how many people get hurt.
 

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Here is Rogan from six months ago on his show saying how someone that knew about fires told him how someday LA is going to burn and they won't be able to stop it. Why can't the people that run LA figure this out?

 

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Here is Rogan from six months ago on his show saying how someone that knew about fires told him how someday LA is going to burn and they won't be able to stop it. Why can't the people that run LA figure this out?


What's your plan?
 

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JUST IN: LA Fire Chief Kristin Crowley doubles down on throwing Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass under the bus.Crowley said Bass' leadership did "negatively impact" their efforts to stop the fire."Let me be clear. The $17M budget cut and elimination of our civilian positions like our mechanics did and has and will continue to severely impact our ability to repair our apparatus.""Over the last 3 years, we have been clear that the fire department needs help. We can no longer sustain where we are.""I have also requested multiple interim budgets... to show how understaffed, under-resourced, and underfunded the LAFD is."
 

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Counselors are awaiting your call. I don't get the celebration of other people's deaths and property loss for any reason but in your case it's because of politics. You have some work to do. And irresponsible MAGA media encourages you to feel that way. It's all just sad. Such hate and contempt for people you don't even know. I'm sure a lot of MAGA folks lost their homes and belongings too.
It's sad that Calif thinks a 3" **** of a fish is more important than the residents and the property of the state of Calif.
 

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What's your plan?
I don't need a plan because I'm not in charge of LA. If I was asking the public to put me in charge of LA, which is how the people in charge of LA got to be in charge of LA, I'd sure as hell have a plan for fire and everything else.
 

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When it comes to assessing the business impact of climate change, I’ve long looked to Spencer Glendon of Probable Futures. He’s an economist and former head of research at Wellington Management who argues that 12,000 years of climate stability have made us complacent and illiterate about climate change.

As Glendon noted in a commentary we ran last year, “the end of climate stability signals the end of the insurance market as we know it.” That’s because insurance doesn’t protect you against hazards. It’s a financial contract, based on pooled risk, that reimburses you if you’re among the unlucky ones to face a rare and predictable hazard.

When such hazards become unpredictable or heartbreakingly common, affecting everybody in the pool, the market structure crumbles along with the buildings they’re designed to protect.

There is no such thing as man made climate change. Less than 5% of the entire surface is covered by man. The earth's orbit around the sun determines whether it's hot or cold. FYI, the south pole is building ice caps while the north is losing them. Take the money we waste on climate, DEi and BLM and put it into something constructive.
 

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I don't need a plan because I'm not in charge of LA. If I was asking the public to put me in charge of LA, which is how the people in charge of LA got to be in charge of LA, I'd sure as hell have a plan for fire and everything else.
I thought that maybe you had a plan. The guy to told Rogan about the situation said there would be nothing that could be done if that happened. Nature is a powerful force and when the hurricane, major flood or fire with really high winds in very dry areas comes it is usually overwhelming. They should give you the job since you'll have a plan for next time.
 

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There is no such thing as man made climate change. Less than 5% of the entire surface is covered by man. The earth's orbit around the sun determines whether it's hot or cold. FYI, the south pole is building ice caps while the north is losing them. Take the money we waste on climate, DEi and BLM and put it into something constructive.
Don't put all your stupidity out in one day, pace yourself.
 

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The Mayor of LA was at an inauguration in Ghana when this was happening. She was there because President Biden appointed a four person group to go, two of whom had nothing to do with Ghana or international relations, as detailed here.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ration-of-his-excellency-john-dramani-mahama/

The Director of the OMB and the Mayor of LA have nothing to do with Ghana. A POTUS should not ask them to go to Ghana because their job has nothing to do with Ghana.

Similarly, if a POTUS does ask them, they should decline because their job has nothing to do with Ghana.

Finally, when this happens the media, whose job is supposed to be a watchdog of the people in power, should write stories about how people in power are abusing their power by doing things beyond their position.

So here is who did bad here:

1. President Biden - For appointing people to go to an inauguration in Ghana even though their job has nothing to do with Ghana.

2. The Director of OMB (Office of Management and Budget) - For accepting an appointment to go to Ghana even though it has nothing to do with Managing the Budget.

3. Mayor of LA - For accepting an appointment to go to Ghana even though it has nothing to do with running the City of LA.

4. The Media - For ignoring the first three things listed.
 

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I thought that maybe you had a plan. The guy to told Rogan about the situation said there would be nothing that could be done if that happened. Nature is a powerful force and when the hurricane, major flood or fire with really high winds in very dry areas comes it is usually overwhelming. They should give you the job since you'll have a plan for next time.
I think it was pretty clearly implied by Rogan that there was nothing that could be done about the fire under the current circumstances and that consequently plans should be made to change that. He wasn't saying that no matter what anyone does, if a fire his the wrong way, we're screwed and we're helpless to ever change that.
 

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He wasn't saying that no matter what anyone does, if a fire his the wrong way, we're screwed and we're helpless to ever change that.
That's exactly what he said. He said on a bad day and if it hits the wrong way, we are screwed.
 

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I thought that maybe you had a plan. The guy to told Rogan about the situation said there would be nothing that could be done if that happened. Nature is a powerful force and when the hurricane, major flood or fire with really high winds in very dry areas comes it is usually overwhelming. They should give you the job since you'll have a plan for next time.


Are you defending the Politicians that did nothing to prepare and prevent or the Turds starting the fires?
 

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I see you've put a lot of thought into this. Thanks for sharing your climate wisdom with the board.
The problem with you leftist are you think that man, which covers no more than 5% of the total surface, can cause this problem. How many nukes would it take to melt the south pole?
 

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The problem with you leftist are you think that man, which covers no more than 5% of the total surface, can cause this problem. How many nukes would it take to melt the south pole?
It's science not politics. We've been pumping CO2 into the atmosphere since the mid 1800s which has finally got to the point of tipping the climate out of equilibrium. Think how much pollution we've pumped into the atmosphere of the last 175 years or so and it's finally having a warming effect that will get warmer faster as it goes. There's lots of frozen methane in the melting permafrost ready to make it worse. What do you want to spend money on, trying to reduce greenhouse gasses or relocating all of the world's coastal cities to higher ground or trying to build sea walls around them? (or all 3?) Take your pick. Both are daunting tasks but folks now are concentrating on trying to fix the atmosphere (while planning for the others) which seems to me to be much cheaper, just reduce carbon emissions. It's a big long-term project, get on board. Amazingly enough Trump likes to lie about climate change. On the campaign trail, he said sea level rise is 1/8" in 400 years when it's 1/8"/year. That's a big lie but he doesn't tell little ones. Claim: “The ocean’s going to rise one-eighth of an inch over the next 400 years … and you’ll have more oceanfront property, right?” Surely there's a special place in hell for leaders who lie about important sh*t like that.
 

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It's science not politics. We've been pumping CO2 into the atmosphere since the mid 1800s which has finally got to the point of tipping the climate out of equilibrium. Think how much pollution we've pumped into the atmosphere of the last 175 years or so and it's finally having a warming effect that will get warmer faster as it goes. There's lots of frozen methane in the melting permafrost ready to make it worse. What do you want to spend money on, trying to reduce greenhouse gasses or relocating all of the world's coastal cities to higher ground or trying to build sea walls around them? (or all 3?) Take your pick. Both are daunting tasks but folks now are concentrating on trying to fix the atmosphere (while planning for the others) which seems to me to be much cheaper, just reduce carbon emissions. It's a big long-term project, get on board. Amazingly enough Trump likes to lie about climate change. On the campaign trail, he said sea level rise is 1/8" in 400 years when it's 1/8"/year. That's a big lie but he doesn't tell little ones. Claim: “The ocean’s going to rise one-eighth of an inch over the next 400 years … and you’ll have more oceanfront property, right?” Surely there's a special place in hell for leaders who lie about important sh*t like that.

Smoking the good **** tonight I see.