Tobias Manning has left the plantation.
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Listening to Sports 56 a couple of weeks ago he said Central Arkansas was a better team than Jacksonville St and thought that they could come in and beat Ole Miss if everything fell into place.
He was a pre-Madonna (prima donna) from before he was ever even recruited. He really isn't that good of a football player. The only thing he ever brought to the equation was straight line speed. He has no moves at all and he'll go down if someone breathes on him hard. Basically you lost a decent kickoff returner who was a cancer in the locker room. I really do think you're better off without him.
I believe there is more disconnect between the version of Oxford and OM that is sold to recruits and reality than probably any other school in the SEC.
great deal in high school but I though he could be a serviceable player. With his background his odds of success were against him from the get go up there.<div>Freeze understands where they have been and he is trying to change it but man did O and Nutt screw that place up or what? Running off David Cutcliffe looks</div><div>dumber everyday.</div>
that keeps getting recognized nationally as one of the best college towns.
Or maybe your talking about our program. Yes, the program that has 8 losing seasons in the last 11. Oops, that's State. I do particularly enjoy reading here how we can't ever possibly turn things around, because State wasn't in a worse situation or anything in Mullen's first year. There were so many recent bowl games and winning seasons when he arrived, right?
This board reads like The Spirit did when Mullen was hired. "Terrible coach, no chance to turn around, will drive them further into the ground." We see how that has worked out.
And yes, we should miss Tobias so much, what with his battle with a walk-on for the 8th WR spot. How will we ever replace him.
Or maybe your talking about our program. Yes, the program that has 8 losing seasons in the last 11. Oops, that's State. I do particularly enjoy reading here how we can't ever possibly turn things around, because State wasn't in a worse situation or anything in Mullen's first year. There were so many recent bowl games and winning seasons when he arrived, right?
This board reads like The Spirit did when Mullen was hired. "Terrible coach, no chance to turn around, will drive them further into the ground." We see how that has worked out.
And yes, we should miss Tobias so much, what with his battle with a walk-on for the 8th WR spot. How will we ever replace him.
But the things that make it nice don't mean much to a current player on the roster.
I guess Tobias got tired of drinking Chardonnay and Mojitos on the Square?
Maybe he lost his tailgating spot a the Grove?
Trouble in paradise at the Kappa Sig house?
A football player isn't going to do any that, but a fast talking assistant coach could sell a 17 or 18 year old kid on it, right? Maybe they just go to the highest bidder? Who's really to say..
I guess Tobias got tired of drinking Chardonnay and Mojitos on the Square?
Maybe he lost his tailgating spot a the Grove?
Trouble in paradise at the Kappa Sig house?
A football player isn't going to do any that, but a fast talking assistant coach could sell a 17 or 18 year old kid on it, right? Maybe they just go to the highest bidder? Who's really to say..
we are going to gloat when a player like this leaves om. Did you not follow his recruiting? Add to that, they are our rivals. However, to suggest that there is no such thing as good attrition is ridiculous. Are you trying to tell me that if a player is not giving their all and doesn't give a ****, that you want them on our team?
Then by all means run with it. One look at resumes makes that laughable. Hell freeze may be a diamond in the rough and pull something out of his ***, but nothing takes away that freeze was coaching high school sports while Mullen was a successful coordinator on a successful sec team.
And even you UM fans harped about how much talent Mullen inherited when he only won 5 games. So to clarify and to put it on record, you are saying the UM team of this year is on the same level as Mullen's first year?
And hey, you morons were over here trying to point and laugh when you got Brassel, Singleton, and Johnson. So don't even start with the "he sucks so whatever" defense.
And even you UM fans harped about how much talent Mullen inherited when he only won 5 games. So to clarify and to put it on record, you are saying the UM team of this year is on the same level as Mullen's first year?
And hey, you morons were over here trying to point and laugh when you got Brassel, Singleton, and Johnson. So don't even start with the "he sucks so whatever" defense.
Grindle's departure came out of the blue, there were no bad reports on him that I read...but it was "good attrition". When Grindle decided to return, that was good news. Does that not appear two-faced to you?
As for good attrition, if Renardo Sidney had left, BINGO! But Grindle wasn't/isn't Sidney or Donte Walker. Maybe he was homesick, he wouldn't be the first or last.
As for good attrition, if Renardo Sidney had left, BINGO! But Grindle wasn't/isn't Sidney or Donte Walker. Maybe he was homesick, he wouldn't be the first or last.
but if both fan bases (UM and MSU) started pooping in one hand and vigorously masturbating with the other we would have enough spunk and poop to cover the state sevenfold, before either won a national championship. You can argue crootin, bowl games, and the hilarity of both programs until waves of spunk and **** average 6 feet, but the fact remains that we are both the mongoloid scoliosis ridden step children of the SEC. UM spine just happens to be a little more crooked this year.
When I was at Paris Island for boot camp we had a black guy who refused to train. He was a former football player from Ohio State. Big guy and his last name was Berkley. I will never forget him. When he told the DI that he was not going to train anymore the DI say, "Oh so you want to play games?" The DI left and he came back in with a bat and four other DI's. He pointed the bat Berkly and said "get in my Hooch you **** bird". Berkley and the five DI's stayed in the DI office for about 30 minutes. We all stood at attention during the whole time. When they came out Berkley never said another word and busted his *** to graduate. My point is this, sometimes you just have to get into a guys head to get him motivated. Maybe Freeze just don't have that ability in him. Anyone can ***** out but sometimes but it takes a good leader to make you nut up.
is you and I don't know what Grindle's situation entailed. Initially, it wsa reported he was leaving the team b/c he was homesick. If that were the case, then so be it. If he wsan't going to put 110% into MSU football, then we didn't need him. That is good attrition. Not BS. However, it appears he decided that he was going to give 110%. Therefore, he was welcomed back. I don't think that is so hard to understand. Again, to your point on ragging on the bears; Well yeah, of course we are going to. We are rivals. It's over a recruit we fought over. We're going to give them hell when **** goes south in that situation.</p>
That's not what most people--at least not what I--meant when I referred to his departure as "good attrition." I prefaced by saying that I hated to see him go, but that we needed space because of our small junior/senior classes and the limited spots we have for the next two years. "Good attrition" in that case isn't an indictment on Grindle or anyone else in particular but a simple observation that we're going to have some players leave and that the harm expected from their departure is mitigated by our need for scholarship spots. As for Grindle, I'm glad he's back; more power to him. <div><div>
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Glad Grindle is back, but that just means someone else is going to have to go. Bad attittion is when you're losing productive players and/or can't use all 85 of your scholarships. As long as you're able to stay use all your scholarships and aren't losing productive players, attrition is good because it allows you to bring in 25 new recruits each year.
This is the equivalent of my characterization of both programs as "the conference retards."
And all this jizzing about how ****** the bears are does NOTHING but anger the keepers of the conference retard karma. At some point, the conference retard imbalance has the potential to be so pronounced that efforts must be made from the Sacred Hills of Birmingham to restore conference retard balance. Conference retard karma is dastardly. It can strike without warning.
And all this jizzing about how ****** the bears are does NOTHING but anger the keepers of the conference retard karma. At some point, the conference retard imbalance has the potential to be so pronounced that efforts must be made from the Sacred Hills of Birmingham to restore conference retard balance. Conference retard karma is dastardly. It can strike without warning.
...when UM was #4 in the polls and on the cover of SI's preseason issue? Oh that's right, you were drinking the 17ing kool-aid with the rest of the Spirit. Your kind only trot out this "conference retard" talk when your team sucks. However true or untrue it may be, come back and say that in a few years when Ole Miss is better. You won't. But here's an open invitation.
But State may get to enjoy some success for a while since we had such a head start on getting rid of our incompetent AD that was holding us back. Hard to say what kind of hidden gems are on UM's roster just waiting for competent coaching (Crooms obviously had several), but it's possible Bucky is looking at a four year rebuilding job even if he's a pretty good coach. <span style="font-style: italic;">If</span> MSU has a few good seasons while UM is terrible, there's always the chance there's enough momentum to that UM needs some lucky breaks to catch up. The situation was flipped at the end of Croom's tenure, it's just we got lucky with a coaching hire and also got lucky that Nutt wasn't able to or interested in maintaining UM at a high level.