Gene says in his conversations with him he says he is MSU bound as soon as he retakes ACT to clear up a questionable jump in score.
Todd Kelly says he is PRCC bound.
Todd Kelly says he is PRCC bound.
Todd, what is the deal with Chase Lewallen?
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Gene says in his conversations with him he says he is MSU bound as soon as he retakes ACT to clear up a questionable jump in score.
Todd Kelly says he is PRCC bound.
Todd Kelly says he is PRCC bound.
This Lewallen thing seems to bea great mystery right now. I have a feeling we will know for sure when classes start in the fall.
He was walking by and I asked aren't you Chase Lewallen, and he said Yessir. I told him Im a MSU alum and huge Bulldog sports fan and I was looking forward to him playing for us this fall. He told me he was looking forward to going up to Starkville and said that he would probably start out at 2nd base with a good chance to start for us. I dont know why a kid would lie to me about going to State. FWIW I also saw mean Gene up at the State Championships as well and maybe this time he may actually have good info on Lewallen.
Apparently- according to Gene here- Chase made a 19 on his ACT. Well, the NCAA is not clearing him right now because they are allegedly saying that he made too big of a jump in his ACT score. So, he now has to retake the ACT and make a similar score I guess, which he will take again very soon.
People are trying to rationalize the jump saying that he originally took the ACT in the 10th grade, and then again this year, so there was a large gap and they are saying that probably explains the jump in the score. I am not an ACT expert, but I guess that's probably true.
Fanning the flames in all of this is Pearl River CC's coach telling people that Luwallen will be going there next year.
Here's my take on the situation- Chase is not known for being the sharpest tool in the shed in Sumrall, first of all. Obviously this is a small community and it's really easy to get labeled in a town like that. Now, I'm not saying that the fine people of Sumrall are lying, but they probably do exaggerrate some things. Let me just say this- I don't think that Chase is ever going to make academic All-SEC, but he is probably not as dumb as he is made out to be either. What I think will PROBABLY happen, and I say probably because I don't believe he has taken the ACT again yet, and it's obviously still up in the air until he does, is that he will make whatever he needs to make and will end up at MSU.
If he doesn't, he goes to PRCC for a couple of years, and then goes to MSU.
As far as PRCC's coach- I think he's being optomistic. Just like I am. It's kind of crazy that these coaches have to hope that these kids don't succeed, so that they can. But that's the way it is. I'm not criticizing at all, because I would be the same way. A guy like a Van Pope is a community college baseball coaches dream. And as of now, he would be going to PRCC, so he's not lying.
I saw Chase play yesterday, and he is as good as advertised. He made several very good defensive plays, and he went 1-2 with a single. He also stole third base on a ball that hit the dirt. As soon as the ball hit the dirt, he was gone. He's just a good ballplayer, and we really need him. He won the South MVP of the game as well.
People are trying to rationalize the jump saying that he originally took the ACT in the 10th grade, and then again this year, so there was a large gap and they are saying that probably explains the jump in the score. I am not an ACT expert, but I guess that's probably true.
Fanning the flames in all of this is Pearl River CC's coach telling people that Luwallen will be going there next year.
Here's my take on the situation- Chase is not known for being the sharpest tool in the shed in Sumrall, first of all. Obviously this is a small community and it's really easy to get labeled in a town like that. Now, I'm not saying that the fine people of Sumrall are lying, but they probably do exaggerrate some things. Let me just say this- I don't think that Chase is ever going to make academic All-SEC, but he is probably not as dumb as he is made out to be either. What I think will PROBABLY happen, and I say probably because I don't believe he has taken the ACT again yet, and it's obviously still up in the air until he does, is that he will make whatever he needs to make and will end up at MSU.
If he doesn't, he goes to PRCC for a couple of years, and then goes to MSU.
As far as PRCC's coach- I think he's being optomistic. Just like I am. It's kind of crazy that these coaches have to hope that these kids don't succeed, so that they can. But that's the way it is. I'm not criticizing at all, because I would be the same way. A guy like a Van Pope is a community college baseball coaches dream. And as of now, he would be going to PRCC, so he's not lying.
I saw Chase play yesterday, and he is as good as advertised. He made several very good defensive plays, and he went 1-2 with a single. He also stole third base on a ball that hit the dirt. As soon as the ball hit the dirt, he was gone. He's just a good ballplayer, and we really need him. He won the South MVP of the game as well.
Personally, I don't think that's big jump. Getting a 19, in my opinion, is still below par.
If he jumped from a 20 to a 30... yes, something was probably up. But going from a 10 or 12 to a 19 isn't something I'd bat an eye at...
If he jumped from a 20 to a 30... yes, something was probably up. But going from a 10 or 12 to a 19 isn't something I'd bat an eye at...
Someone on BDJ was saying that if you jump 5 points that the NCAA raises an eye. I don't know that that is necesarily true.
NOW Gene is saying that he is not coming to MSU.
Typical. Should have known better. Apologies to the town of Sumrall and PRCC's baseball coach.
Typical. Should have known better. Apologies to the town of Sumrall and PRCC's baseball coach.
The Swan changed his tune rather suddenly.
I just hope he doesn't become Van Pope II and mess around in JUCO.
I just hope he doesn't become Van Pope II and mess around in JUCO.
He knew that since about January
Just because Gene wants to pump sunshine up everybody's ***, doesn't mean the rest of you people should fall for it
There are other ways to get information about MSU recruits
Todd Kelly is very good at his job....and of course, in this instance, he is going to be right
Meanwhile in an unrelated note, good luck to the suckers out there who keep promoting and participating in Gene's new baseball site
Just because Gene wants to pump sunshine up everybody's ***, doesn't mean the rest of you people should fall for it
There are other ways to get information about MSU recruits
Todd Kelly is very good at his job....and of course, in this instance, he is going to be right
Meanwhile in an unrelated note, good luck to the suckers out there who keep promoting and participating in Gene's new baseball site
He's only about 5'8", but he is a great hitter- he hit about .556 this past year, and he doesn't strike out a lot. He is an outstanding defensive player with great range and he is also a great baserunner. He did play at a 3A school, but his team also played a few 6A teams in the state this year.
This. I tried to tell you guys he would be at PRCC. Second of all, I've seen chase play since he was in HS. I think he's a good player, and he's a good defensive player. However, I've always had questions about his bat and whether or not he could hit good D1 pitching. His hands just don't seem quick enough to me. I do not consider him a "great" hitter. Good high school hitter, but not great. Don't get me wrong, I'd take him on my team. I just don't think this is as big of a loss to MSU as some would believe. And I do NOT think he would have started.Paper Dog said:
That's why if my info comes from Gene I always make sure I preface what I say with "Gene says" or "David says he was in the john at Mexico Tipico and overheard John Cohen talking to.."
related to your unrelated note:
It will be interesting to see how his baseball site does. I'm just not sure that there's the market for it. Certainly not like football or even basketball, and that's even in a state like this where college baseball is pretty big.
There is a high school message board on scout that's fairly well established, and I think that sites like his (Genespage) really flourish by the word of mouth info from the boards as opposed to the hack journalism and "premium info". Most of his customers would be from that message board, and I'm not sure that they're going to get much more info than they/we can get from each other. And even that board is actually a high school sports board- not a high school baseball exclusive board. It doesn't really help his cause either when the stories he writes are about players his customers request wanting to pimp their kid who is a JUCO caliber player.
On top of that, if you are an Ole Miss fan or even a USM fan, would you pay money to read a website to read about recruits from the fluff writer of MSU? That would be like reading baseball recruiting articles from Yancey. I think that will hurt him as well. Plus, MSU being down in baseball right now.
I just wish BDJ would devote more time to baseball. They are already superior to Gene when it comes to football and basketball, but let's be honest here- Wardlaw or Paul Jones could have very easily called up Lewallen and cleared this up months ago.
related to your unrelated note:
It will be interesting to see how his baseball site does. I'm just not sure that there's the market for it. Certainly not like football or even basketball, and that's even in a state like this where college baseball is pretty big.
There is a high school message board on scout that's fairly well established, and I think that sites like his (Genespage) really flourish by the word of mouth info from the boards as opposed to the hack journalism and "premium info". Most of his customers would be from that message board, and I'm not sure that they're going to get much more info than they/we can get from each other. And even that board is actually a high school sports board- not a high school baseball exclusive board. It doesn't really help his cause either when the stories he writes are about players his customers request wanting to pimp their kid who is a JUCO caliber player.
On top of that, if you are an Ole Miss fan or even a USM fan, would you pay money to read a website to read about recruits from the fluff writer of MSU? That would be like reading baseball recruiting articles from Yancey. I think that will hurt him as well. Plus, MSU being down in baseball right now.
I just wish BDJ would devote more time to baseball. They are already superior to Gene when it comes to football and basketball, but let's be honest here- Wardlaw or Paul Jones could have very easily called up Lewallen and cleared this up months ago.
from people who you would think knows that he was not going to make it to MSU.
I guess they were right.
I guess they were right.
a few weeks ago that there was a good chance Chase wasn't coming to MSU. Info I was getting was that he wasn't real happy with the way Miller was handled and he's also getting a lot of pressure from other teammates to end up at USM (through PRCC) because that's where Jackson Posey and Luke Lowery are going. I'm also sure he's not crazy about the way our team performed this year. I didn't really hear anything at that time about possible ACT problems. I'm not sure what the real story is there. Its a shame we invested that much time and energy on him for him to renig on us in the end. Our baseball program can't seem to catch a break at the moment.
I'm sure he was getting alot of pressure from his sumrall buddiesto play at usm, but if he wants to win anything meaningful, he won't do it at usm. Is southern going to sign the whole sumrall team? I can see this happening though, which is why I say we don't need him. Lets go get players who think bigger. </p>
than a USM but let's face it, for whoever's fault it is (and I agree its primarily Polk's to this point), we aren't getting it done right now. When's the last time USM had 3 losing seasons in a row?
that southern is in better shape than us right now and will be for the next couple of years probably. But, when you repeatedly hear usm fans talk about making the college world series a "once in a lifetime thing", that is pretty telling. I am just pointing out that our ceiling is much higher than usm's on a regular basis. We just have to see if we can reach it again.