Tommy walked out of practice last week?
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IF that is true then he should be disciplined. Maybe its time Tommy starts to execute better for the team.
The time for the consequence has passed if this is true...it needed to happen before the game. Oh well
Maybe the consequence should be on the crappy coaching??
Something seems up with TA. Maybe that situation at his home affected him more than we (at least I) originally thought.
You'd be surprised at how tommy acts at practice...or maybe you wouldn't. Depends on how much kool aide u drink.
I did not see this, however.
I did not see this, however.
He's not the only one that did that this year. Accountability doesn't appear to be a strong suit of this staff
If true that is very weak on Tommys part. Friggen captain my ***! Kid needs to transfer.
I would say it is on the team. Get rid of the punk asses that are not team players and I don't care who they are
The only way that's acceptable is if Langsdorf was actually talking about executing him...
If Tommy did this it was wrong. But DL is putting him in situations that are not optimal for him. He might have legitimate issues with the coaching.
He walked out when a coach was trying to coach him?? That is "keep on walking" on a lot of jobs. Where did you hear that?
Riley and Co are here to win. They're not going to bench a player when there isn't a viable backup. Riley also isn't going to call out his players. If he benches TA and doesn't explain why, posters like you would be on Riley's ***.
I feel sorry for the kid at this point. He's got to be pretty torn up inside and I can't help but think he'll reflect back on his time here as he matures and moves into the next phase of his life and feel like he didn't accomplish what he wanted, and he'll feel kind of empty I'd imagine.
Im sorry, buy the Elephant in the room is Tommy. It has been most of the season. This loss is 100% on him and a few of the others are as well. As a D1 qb this can not happen consistently. At least he is big enough to admit it. He knows it, everyone knows it. It is the job of these coaches to either find a way to change how he plays or put in a guy that can get the job done. It has to be destroy the D mentally when you hold, QB throws and interception. Hold QB throws interception. Hold, QB throws interceptions. Hold, QB throws interception.
Coaches have to think of the long term. I am all for these coaches to suceed but somebody needs to be a parent.
If this Qb coming in Patrick Obrien is half as good as advertised he can hopefully replace Armstrong quickly. Armstrong is an athlete no doubt. Keep him on the field is some form, TE WR. Use for trick plays
Stop. Many of us posted before the season that Tommy was a turnover machine and we could not let that continue and win. We aren't highly paid expert coaches. This is not on Tommy. This is 100% coaching ineptness. Has been the entire season. They are using Tommy completely wrong. That is not Tommy's fault. This losing season is 100% about coaching ineptness. Moronic game planning and game management. I can only imagine what TO is thinking.
Oh for god's sake. Yeah, because Riley hasn't even disciplined anyone this season. Except for, you know, all those guys who were suspended for games this season.
I'm honestly curious. Given the quarterbacks and runningbacks the team was handed, what exactly did you expect them to do? You don't get to answer "they should have run more" because heres a news flash for you and everyone else who thinks we should have been running the ball every down. Our offensive line and runningbacks are not good enough to do that. If the coaches had been handed Ameer, or Rex, then maybe. Not with this group.
It's hilarious you assume you know how to think about "the long term" better than the guys who are there every day.
The KSU basketball had virtually everybody last year from a NCAA tourney team. The star, I won't mention his name, got the big head, listening to the his AAU coaches in the summer after his frehmen year and did his own thing as a soph. Smoked a little weed in the hotel in Lubbock right before the game.. Weber/coaches put up with it, and many other attitude problems with 1 short suspension, then brought him back to make a run to the tourney if possible. Did not happen Kid was a cancer.. HE is good but thank GOD he got booted after the season and now displays his attitude/talent at Creighton. I know Armstrong is nothing like that, but obviously he needs a little tough love after watching the game today. How bout 5-7 Nebraska/5-7 KSU in a bowl game if we beat KU tomorrow? I feel going to a bowl game with a losing record would embarrassing, but like some said, little cash involved, plus Snyder would practice 24/7 if they let him.
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You honestly think if it was as easy as "putting in a guy who can get the job done" they wouldn't be doing it? They put in Ryker Fife and while I don't agree with it, they basically had him run the offense as if he was going to be the starter for the rest of the year. He didn't get the job done. He actually did worse.
Im not saying that guy is here. Tommy may be the best option they have. Obrien I hope is "their guy" all depends how fast he can catch onto the system the spring and next fall.
They should have committed to the run. Not dabble. Power/zone read. The key is commit. Not dabble. Have and identity. (And have common sense game management, put a stop to penalties, the list is long.) This is not the NFL. We don't have a pro QB.
The situation that he has been put in that is not optimal for him is playing Quarterback. I pray we have seen his last start. The competition next Spring should be between Fyfe and O'Brien.
So despite not actually having an O-line that can push the D-line off the ball, or a running back with vision or break away speed, how well do you think "committing to the run" would have gone? We would have lost three more games with your approach. Also "putting a stop to penalties" when the players are all the same, is I would think you understand, quite a bit easier said than done. Having said that, the penalties were greatly reduced over the last 3 or 4 games, until today.
People think because we're a pro style offense that we don;t have an identity. Look at game films of the last three years. Tim Beck underlined "not having an identity. We have an identity. We're a pro style offense.
Tommy won quite a few games under the previous staff running more of a zone read system. The coaches should have played to Tommy's strengths and ran a lot of zone read and option this year, until they could find a QB capable of running their system.
Was that to be by firing squad, electric chair, or lethal injection?
